Immigration research

[cstaylor]

Hey American Oyaji, I've got a new research subject idea for you: "Online conflict in the expatriate community"

Or how about, "The Gilded Cage Rage: One Frenchman's Guide to Surviving in Japan Without Keigo"?

[Samurai_Jerk]

Hey American Oyaji, I've got a new research subject idea for you: "Online conflict in the expatriate community"

I think you'll notice a common denominator in most of the conflict on this board.

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[matsuki]

I think you'll notice a common denominator in most of the conflict on this board.

I dunno, Coligny is Coligny...that never changed. CST seems to be the one throwing lithium batteries into the fire lately. (or the one trying to start fires here and there) No idea why either. As far as I know, nobody is hounding him about anything. (not on here at least)

[Samurai_Jerk]

I think you'll notice a common denominator in most of the conflict on this board.

I dunno, Coligny is Coligny...that never changed. CST seems to be the one throwing lithium batteries into the fire lately. (or the one trying to start fires here and there) No idea why either. As far as I know, nobody is hounding him about anything. (not on here at least)

I guess CST could only stand so much douche baggery for so long.

[cstaylor]

I think you'll notice a common denominator in most of the conflict on this board.

I dunno, Coligny is Coligny...that never changed. CST seems to be the one throwing lithium batteries into the fire lately. (or the one trying to start fires here and there) No idea why either. As far as I know, nobody is hounding him about anything. (not on here at least)

I guess CST could only stand so much douche baggery for so long.

Don't forget the atrocious spelling and grammar.

[Coligny]

Hey American Oyaji, I've got a new research subject idea for you: "Online conflict in the expatriate community"

I think you'll notice a common denominator in most of the conflict on this board.

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Not here to please a public...

and... as usual...

Not because I upset people that I'm the root of the problem...

You don't like... put me on ignore... and be the noisiest drama queen aboot it like CST... Because he's truly right, the biggest problem in the world as of today is Frenchmen speaking lolcat... Someone should summon the UN against it...

[Samurai_Jerk]

the biggest problem in the world as of today is Frenchmen speaking lolcat

Not the world. Just this forum.

[Coligny]

It's ok, just lie down and think of England...

[Russell]

I think you'll notice a common denominator in most of the conflict on this board.

I dunno, Coligny is Coligny...that never changed. CST seems to be the one throwing lithium batteries into the fire lately. (or the one trying to start fires here and there) No idea why either. As far as I know, nobody is hounding him about anything. (not on here at least)

I guess CST could only stand so much douche baggery for so long.

Don't forget the atrocious spelling and grammar.

WTFornicate Chris, and I just thinking all the time you had a bad week at the office. There is this Jewish saying that if God wishes to punish you he gives you personnel.

[Iraira]

It seems like the normal situation of some new troll coming onto FG, thrashing about for a few weeks, before getting run out of Dodge hasn't happened that much recently (save for a few McTojo sightings), so it's only natural that the old hands would start bickering amongst themselves. Plus, there haven't been enough pictures of girls lately. Massive Sperm Build-up can cause FG rage.
And I apologize for not being around to lower the level of conversation.

[Coligny]

I think you'll notice a common denominator in most of the conflict on this board.

I dunno, Coligny is Coligny...that never changed. CST seems to be the one throwing lithium batteries into the fire lately. (or the one trying to start fires here and there) No idea why either. As far as I know, nobody is hounding him about anything. (not on here at least)

I guess CST could only stand so much douche baggery for so long.

Don't forget the atrocious spelling and grammar.

WTFornicate Chris, and I just thinking all the time you had a bad week at the office. There is this Jewish saying that if God wishes to punish you he gives you personnel.

Th3 w4y I seeez it:

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Seriously, they sound like all senile old farts on their last synapse...
"get a jerb", "write gud english", "you're useless", "when I wuz young (...)"

Let the wargarblll continue... Soylent green can't be that far...

[Samurai_Jerk]

It seems like the normal situation of some new troll coming onto FG, thrashing about for a few weeks, before getting run out of Dodge hasn't happened that much recently (save for a few McTojo sightings), so it's only natural that the old hands would start bickering amongst themselves. Plus, there haven't been enough pictures of girls lately. Massive Sperm Build-up can cause FG rage.
And I apologize for not being around to lower the level of conversation.

Coligny's the same as those trolls. He's just gotten away with it for years because some people on here know him personally. Everyone had an issue with Charles for some reason but this asshole is a lot worse.

[cstaylor]

but this asshole is a lot worse.

Exactly. I look up at the "Hot Topics" section and all I see are reminders of why I have him on ignore.

[Taro Toporific]

He's just gotten away with it for years because some people on here know him personally. Everyone had an issue with Charles for some reason but this asshole is a lot worse.

Actually, two other FGs and I knew Charles in real life---He was much worse than his online persona. Frenchie is here for our amusement, comparatively speaking.

[GomiGirl]

He's just gotten away with it for years because some people on here know him personally. Everyone had an issue with Charles for some reason but this asshole is a lot worse.

Actually, two other FGs and I knew Charles in real life---He was much worse than his online persona. Frenchie is here for our amusement, comparatively speaking.

Charles is still lurking - last seen in Jan 2013. He is still on his "I am not posting any more on FG until they all apologise and tell me I am fabulous cos I am" exile. But he comes back in to search for his own name to see if people are still talking about him. Well yes Charles they are and people still think you are a dick.

[Coligny]

Coligny's the same as those trolls. He's just gotten away with it for years because some people on here know him personally. Everyone had an issue with Charles for some reason but this asshole is a lot worse.

That's your little masturbatory fantaisy ? your little "make your own adventure" book ?
You think you'ze the first jerkoff with way to much selfesteem that i upset by totally not giving a fuck aboot his little feelings, opinion or desire ?
What if i have the 00 status with a license to wank of my own ? (and totally not because I met Greji in massage parlor during his tour of duty in Korea)... It's funnay, in a non funnay way, but the website from which i was shown the way to FG also had an admin like you... running on yellow bile...

As for CST's "too much posting" panty twisting, well sorry for the Kardashian syndrome, i know we should all bow before his endless spamlinks since his only other posting are for bitching on me and chokonen... But like in real life, the dumbfark with a big ass get all the attenshiun (positive or negative)...

Guys... use the ignore button, on the forum and your brain... stop the unhealthy fixashiun, maybe i should be honored by soo much attenshiun... but i'm just bored of serving as a target for egostroking of random schmucks...

Nao if you du't mind... it's cheezeburger o'clock...

[Samurai_Jerk]

Guys... use the ignore button, on the forum and your brain... stop the unhealthy fixashiun

Ever though of following your own advice? Now go fuck yourself.

[Coligny]

Any advice for a movie to put me in the mood ? I'm in the middle of "the myst" and was planning a rerun of "Cloverfield" after that... not exactly fapping grade material...

[wuchan]

in Coligny's defense, he is french. All they do is talk shit and eat cheese.

Win: talk shit about how their opponent sucks then have a glass of wine and some cheese

Loose: Talk shit about how they don't care and really weren't trying then have a glass of wine and some cheese

[Samurai_Jerk]

Any advice for a movie to put me in the mood ? I'm in the middle of "the myst" and was planning a rerun of "Cloverfield" after that... not exactly fapping grade material...

To fuck yourself you'll have to be in the mood for French so maybe something with this guy.

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[Coligny]

Tssss be carefoul... it's lose for 'not winning' with a single o. Loose with 2 o is for yomama replies...

youzza gunna upset linktard grammar naziz...

[Coligny]

Any advice for a movie to put me in the mood ? I'm in the middle of "the myst" and was planning a rerun of "Cloverfield" after that... not exactly fapping grade material...

To fuck yourself you'll have to be in the mood for French so maybe something with this guy.

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you might be more onto something than ya think:

http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0072353/

(those were the pre 'pissing on a plane' days)

[American Oyaji]

My thought is that the AMERICAN system is broken.

I believe the majority of those that define immigration policy in the U.S. have never had to deal with the system as an average individual.

I'm collating the experiences people from different nationalities have had with various systems, looking at cost, red tape and bureaucratic hassles.

Most policy in the U.S. xenophobic in nature, but I believe if we look at the experiences of those in the system, we can better create a more humane and just immigration policy.

[yanpa]

I'm sure you can find a rich variety of stories from people who have taken their Japanese spouses to America... It sounds like a very torturous process. The other way round (getting a spousal visa in Japan) is easy by comparison.

(Still not as easy as getting a visa for one's Japanese spouse in Germany when one is a citizen of another EU country - 90 minutes from start to finish, and even if you forget to renew, the worst they will do is threaten you with granting permanent residency).

[Hamaki]

I'm sure you can find a rich variety of stories from people who have taken their Japanese spouses to America... It sounds like a very torturous process. The other way round (getting a spousal visa in Japan) is easy by comparison.

(Still not as easy as getting a visa for one's Japanese spouse in Germany when one is a citizen of another EU country - 90 minutes from start to finish, and even if you forget to renew, the worst they will do is threaten you with granting permanent residency).

That is because taking your spouse to the US you get a immigrant visa (in other words a rout to citizenship) and in Japan you get a visa that lets your spouse stay in the country and work and nothing more, even it you get a permanent visa in Japan it is the same. I have gone through both.

I also think the the statement about the US being xenophobic is a joke. The US has 10 of millions of people a year, (more than any other country) from almost every country on the planet wanting to come and live there, they have to have some way of to decide who to let in.

And I think in all counties you will find that the people making the rules about immigration have never actually gone through the immigration process, as in most countries these people have to be citizens of the country.

[Screwed-down Hairdo]

My thought is that the AMERICAN system is broken.
I believe the majority of those that define immigration policy in the U.S. have never had to deal with the system as an average individual.

I'd add Oz to this list. A skilled foreigner with no previous ties to the cuntry faces a fucking nightmare in trying to get a long-term visa. An unskilled (or, more specifically, one whose skills are not regarded as being in demand) foreigner has almost no hope. The refugee policy is fucking outrageous and now most processing occurs offshore with the apparent aim of preventing as many people as possible as gaining asylum. The only lenient area of immigration policy are family reunion visas, which extend long-term visa status to any family member already afforded such a status. All processing for long-term visas requires months of waiting and applications requiring numerous forms of documentation, validation and interviews. Altogether an onerous process.

Most policy in the U.S. xenophobic in nature, but I believe if we look at the experiences of those in the system, we can better create a more humane and just immigration policy.

With all due respect, I have severe doubts about the ability of the U.S. to devise anything humane or just, unless of course, humane is prefixed by "in" and just by "un."

[omae mona]

I'm sure you can find a rich variety of stories from people who have taken their Japanese spouses to America... It sounds like a very torturous process. The other way round (getting a spousal visa in Japan) is easy by comparison.

(Still not as easy as getting a visa for one's Japanese spouse in Germany when one is a citizen of another EU country - 90 minutes from start to finish, and even if you forget to renew, the worst they will do is threaten you with granting permanent residency).

That is because taking your spouse to the US you get a immigrant visa (in other words a rout to citizenship) and in Japan you get a visa that lets your spouse stay in the country and work and nothing more, even it you get a permanent visa in Japan it is the same. I have gone through both.

I'm lost. What do you mean by "route to citizenship"? As far as I am aware, both the U.S. and Japan require an individual to apply for naturalization to become a citizen. The qualifications for that are not particularly tied to having a spouse visa in either country.

http://london.usembassy.gov/immigrant-v ... tizen.html

A United States citizen cannot transmit citizenship to a spouse. A spouse or fiancé(e) who wishes to take up indefinite residence in the United States requires one of the following visas:

Immigrant Visa
An immigrant visa is required if you are married, or intend marrying outside the United States. The spouse of a U.S. citizen will qualify for immigration in the immediate relative category. For further information, please follow this link. Note: Applicants who qualify for a visa on the basis of a marriage which was entered into less than two years prior to the date on which he/she is admitted into the United States as an immigrant, will be granted conditional resident status

Could you clarify, concretely, what rights does a U.S. spouse visa holder have which are different than a Japan spouse visa holder?

[Screwed-down Hairdo]

What do you mean by "route to citizenship"?

Now, I would say that's when you get married for a visa. But then, I realized that when you say such a phrase, the first word would rhyme with gout and not hoot, and even then, when you root, you barrack and not quimstick...

[Samurai_Jerk]

The whole concept of keeping people out of certain countries and forcing them to live in others is inhumane and unjust. Practically speaking we probably can't just open all borders and allow free movement of people but as long as most are forced to live in the same shitholes where they were born, the system will be unfair.

[Coligny]

Limited ressources, unlimited assholes...

When there is not enough food for everybody you need a way to rationnalize letting some starve: 'not my people' being a good one.

Look at Korea, one side complain of late availability for the new Mercedes Benz CLS Shooting Break wile the other side just don't eat...

There might also have been a minor screwup when we got rid of kings.
We exchanged an established dictatorship where power came from birth with a system claiming its aim for perfection while going full speed toward power grab and dictatorship under the guidance of pseudo elected leaders. whose legitimacy come from being hated by less than half the electoral base... without leaving opportunity for the other half to go anywhere else without losing a lot...

It's not that kingdoms were betters... it's that current form of country wide democracies sucks just as much...