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Android sumaho recommendations

Postby yanpa » Tue Apr 23, 2013 9:08 am

I really really need to get me one of these sumaho things the kids are using these days. I've got an old Softbank keitai on contract which I can presumably use to get a good deal by changing to AU or Docomo. Basically I want something with a reasonably big screen for internet-on-the-move, but not too huge. I don't want to faff about with rooting or whatever (at the moment), but I'd prefer a manufacturer who doesn't pack too much bloatware and can provide system updates for a reasonable length of time. I like the look and feel of the Samsung Galaxy SIII, which seems to be available quite reasonably now the S4 is impending.

Any suggestions?
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Re: Android sumaho recommendations

Postby Coligny » Tue Apr 23, 2013 9:47 am

Go with anysize you want phone that feels comfortable for your wab browsing and buy a bluetooth phone for your smartphone...

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http://dx.com/p/0-95-oled-bluetooth-v2- ... dby-104790

Whih is a much less stupid idea than you might think...

(maybe one day, provider will sell network access dongles that always sit on your keyholder, pairable with phones, GPS, cars and tablet depending on your need... can be made into an implant or buttplug too)
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Re: Android sumaho recommendations

Postby Yokohammer » Tue Apr 23, 2013 10:17 am

As discussed elsewhere, I got me one of them thar Samsung Galaxy SIII thingies a while ago and am using the crap out of it. So far so good. Battery life is the only real issue, but that seems to be the same with just about any smartphone. I bought an external lithium ion battery that can charge the phone twice or more when fully charged itself, which keeps me covered while on the road away from AC outlets or in emergencies. The new S4 looks nice too, but I don't think it's a big enough step up to make overlooking SIII bargains worthwhile.

All of the above written with a background of essentially no experience with other smartphones.
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Re: Android sumaho recommendations

Postby yanpa » Tue Apr 23, 2013 10:26 am

Thanks. Which carrier are you using?
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Re: Android sumaho recommendations

Postby Yokohammer » Tue Apr 23, 2013 11:31 am

Moi?
I'm with Docomo, currently using their "lite" 3G per month data plan which so far I haven't even managed to come close to overrunning. A few hundred megabytes per mo. seems to be about all I need, especially since the phone is connected to the wireless network at home. I'm sure I'll use more on business trips, etc,. but so far, not even close.
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Re: Android sumaho recommendations

Postby omae mona » Tue Apr 23, 2013 12:04 pm

I recently upgraded to a smartphone myself.

Can I recommend: stay the heck away from DoCoMo. You know how PC manufacturers tend to load up your PC with irritating, poorly designed software you don't need, filling up your desktop, eating valuable resources, and interrupting you continuously? DoCoMo does the same thing on their smartphones.

Part of it is just because they are fucked in the head and think it's cool to have 4 applications and 2 web pages that do the same thing. But a lot of it is to trick people into accidentally activating fee-based services they don't need.

I was in a meeting recently and my phone started vibrating in my pocket. Aggressively. I pulled it out and discovered this fucking animated sheep on my screen was announcing to me that I really should take a look at an article about whether corporal punishment for kids is a good idea or not. I swear I am not making this up.
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Re: Android sumaho recommendations

Postby Yokohammer » Tue Apr 23, 2013 12:08 pm

Apparently you've met the Docomo concierge.

All you have to do is turn it off, or uninstall the app.
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Re: Android sumaho recommendations

Postby omae mona » Tue Apr 23, 2013 1:01 pm

Yokohammer wrote:Apparently you've met the Docomo concierge.

All you have to do is turn it off, or uninstall the app.


See, you are DoCoMo's dream customer. That doesn't stop DoCoMo from charging you the 105 yen monthly sheep concierge fee, which most people will never notice. :-D I have around 10 services that I need to go uninstall and also go through the 解約 procedure.

I think I am in slightly worse condition than the average customer. My local shop had a nice promotional deal that saved me a lot of money on the upgrade. The catch: I was forcibly signed up for all kinds of shit I don't need. It's ok to cancel immediately (they only require 1 month's fee). But they are banking on 90% of their victims not understanding what happened or how to unsubscribe. A few months of these fees will quickly destroy all the savings from the "promotion" and net DoCoMo a nice recurring revenue stream from unused services being charged to customers who are unaware.

I made the lady photocopy me the promotion description so I have a checklist of what I need to shut down. It's not centralized anywhere online. Some of it is "my menu" items where you need to go to 3rd party websites to cancel. Some of it is in the DoCoMo billing support site. And some of it is inside the DoCoMo dMarket app & media store. Nightmare. And it was even worse when a settings problem on my phone was preventing me from even accessing those sites (PC browsing mode, definitely flipped on by DoCoMo shop staff by accident, not me)! Fcking nightmare.
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Re: Android sumaho recommendations

Postby Yokohammer » Tue Apr 23, 2013 1:35 pm

omae mona wrote:
Yokohammer wrote:Apparently you've met the Docomo concierge.

All you have to do is turn it off, or uninstall the app.


See, you are DoCoMo's dream customer. That doesn't stop DoCoMo from charging you the 105 yen monthly sheep concierge fee, which most people will never notice. :-D I have around 10 services that I need to go uninstall and also go through the 解約 procedure.

Nope. Never signed up for it. It was nipped in the bud. I'm not signed up for any other unnecessary crap either.

If some promotional package requires you to sign up for all that crap, and you don't want it, don't sign up for that package. The hoops you have to jump through to opt out totally negate the value of the package, IMHO.
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Re: Android sumaho recommendations

Postby omae mona » Tue Apr 23, 2013 2:03 pm

Yokohammer wrote:
omae mona wrote:
Yokohammer wrote:Apparently you've met the Docomo concierge.

All you have to do is turn it off, or uninstall the app.


See, you are DoCoMo's dream customer. That doesn't stop DoCoMo from charging you the 105 yen monthly sheep concierge fee, which most people will never notice. :-D I have around 10 services that I need to go uninstall and also go through the 解約 procedure.

Nope. Never signed up for it. It was nipped in the bud. I'm not signed up for any other unnecessary crap either.

If some promotional package requires you to sign up for all that crap, and you don't want it, don't sign up for that package. The hoops you have to jump through to opt out totally negate the value of the package, IMHO.


I am borderline in agreement with you, but the package was worth over 15000 yen... Still, possibly not worth the aggravation though. Also the nice DoCoMo lady informed me of this precondition AFTER spending an hour with her on other things (phones for other family members, etc.) which were tied in to this. I would have had to start again from scratch, probably chosen a different phone (as this one was too pricey without the promotion), etc. etc.
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Re: Android sumaho recommendations

Postby yanpa » Sat Jun 07, 2014 9:43 pm

Meanwhile... finally got round to acquiring one of these new-fangled mobile fondlethingies, to be precise a Nexus 5 from E-mobile for precisely 0 yen + the first two years at around effectively 3,000 yen a month. Seems OK so far, except the SMS app thingy renders animated gif fake emoji way too big.
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Re: Android sumaho recommendations

Postby IparryU » Sun Jun 08, 2014 1:08 pm

yanpa wrote:Meanwhile... finally got round to acquiring one of these new-fangled mobile fondlethingies, to be precise a Nexus 5 from E-mobile for precisely 0 yen + the first two years at around effectively 3,000 yen a month. Seems OK so far, except the SMS app thingy renders animated gif fake emoji way too big.

Damn good phone and flashing a custom ROM is not even necessary as it is that damn good.

I would still flash CM11 on it though.

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Re: Android sumaho recommendations

Postby yanpa » Sun Jun 08, 2014 6:00 pm

yanpa wrote: Seems OK so far, except the SMS app thingy renders animated gif fake emoji way too big.

The SMS app thingy being "Google Hangout" and the animated gif rendering appears to be a known bug. The app is a counter-intuitive piece of shite anyway. Alas, there doesn't seem to be a direct equivalent of plain old keitai email; there are a couple of Emobile mail apps but one crashes and the other one works but is evidently not compatible with fuck knows what. :roll: :roll:
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Postby yanpa » Sun Jun 08, 2014 6:07 pm

IparryU wrote:
yanpa wrote:Meanwhile... finally got round to acquiring one of these new-fangled mobile fondlethingies, to be precise a Nexus 5 from E-mobile for precisely 0 yen + the first two years at around effectively 3,000 yen a month. Seems OK so far, except the SMS app thingy renders animated gif fake emoji way too big.

Damn good phone and flashing a custom ROM is not even necessary as it is that damn good.


As a mobile internet device it seems fine, as a simple-to-use keitai replacement annoying (see above), I guess that's the price of progress...

IparryU wrote:I would still flash CM11 on it though.


If I had all the time in the world I might play with that kind of thing but I GOT TOO MANY DAMN SHITTY ELECTRONIC DEVICES WHICH NEED CONFIGURING AND UPDATING AND HAVING THEIR BUTTS KICKED WHEN THEY DECIDED TO FORGET HALF THEIR CONFIGURATION so I can't be arsed... (not shouting at you, just the world).
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Postby yanpa » Sun Jun 08, 2014 8:04 pm

The POS is showing a blank notification from 2017 which won't go away :roll:
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Postby Coligny » Sun Jun 08, 2014 8:32 pm

yanpa wrote:The POS is showing a blank notification from 2017 which won't go away :roll:



Set your date to 2018, sacrifice a goat and 2 virgins... Drink the blood of a camel spider...
You know, the usual troubleshooting stuff since windows 95...
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Postby yanpa » Sun Jun 08, 2014 8:46 pm

Coligny wrote:
yanpa wrote:The POS is showing a blank notification from 2017 which won't go away :roll:



Set your date to 2018, sacrifice a goat and 2 virgins... Drink the blood of a camel spider...
You know, the usual troubleshooting stuff since windows 95...


I rebooted the fucker :lol: Problem solved.

What makes the situation kind of interesting is that they were offering a good deal on a second phone and as the Mrs.'s garakei is showing its age, she wanted to change too... Still, at least we now have a second free Chromecast :roll:
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Postby Coligny » Mon Jun 09, 2014 8:38 am

yanpa wrote:
I rebooted the fucker :lol: Problem solved.

What makes the situation kind of interesting is that they were offering a good deal on a second phone and as the Mrs.'s garakei is showing its age, she wanted to change too... Still, at least we now have a second free Chromecast :roll:


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Postby IparryU » Sat Jun 21, 2014 10:44 pm

yanpa wrote:
IparryU wrote:
yanpa wrote:Meanwhile... finally got round to acquiring one of these new-fangled mobile fondlethingies, to be precise a Nexus 5 from E-mobile for precisely 0 yen + the first two years at around effectively 3,000 yen a month. Seems OK so far, except the SMS app thingy renders animated gif fake emoji way too big.

Damn good phone and flashing a custom ROM is not even necessary as it is that damn good.


As a mobile internet device it seems fine, as a simple-to-use keitai replacement annoying (see above), I guess that's the price of progress...

IparryU wrote:I would still flash CM11 on it though.


If I had all the time in the world I might play with that kind of thing but I GOT TOO MANY DAMN SHITTY ELECTRONIC DEVICES WHICH NEED CONFIGURING AND UPDATING AND HAVING THEIR BUTTS KICKED WHEN THEY DECIDED TO FORGET HALF THEIR CONFIGURATION so I can't be arsed... (not shouting at you, just the world).

Better yet, AOSB 1.3.5 is out... Just flash it!

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Postby yanpa » Sat Jun 21, 2014 11:11 pm

WTF is that?
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Postby IparryU » Sat Jun 21, 2014 11:19 pm

yanpa wrote:WTF is that?

Its a super cool, stable, fully customizable ROM. Can do pretty much anything you need it to do.

http://probam.net/features/

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Postby yanpa » Sat Jun 21, 2014 11:31 pm

IparryU wrote:
yanpa wrote:WTF is that?

Its a super cool, stable, fully customizable ROM. Can do pretty much anything you need it to do.

http://probam.net/features/


Thanks, looks kind of interesting but tempting as it is, I spend enough time mucking about with computers'n'stuff and life is too short...
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Postby Coligny » Sun Jun 22, 2014 2:06 am

Can you exactly trace when you stopped giving a fuck ?

Cause, I'm still searching, it's starting to bother me, and there's systems around me that I setup, that are not aging gracefully and when I try to dig back the how and what my only progress is usually limited to wonder how on earth I or anybody else could put up with this or that shit...
The 'gaming' PC is nearly never turned on by fear of random BSOD, and he's not even on BSOD away from being thrown in the parking thru my 2nd story window...

The only/last stuff i tweak are my jailbroken IOs things, because the amount of frustration with daily use on their natural state is just way more rage inducing than the whole jailbreak process... So it's more a lose-lose situation than real eagerness...

I'nm on my 4th year of simpit building, still not even with the OS installed... In high-school it took me 4 1/2 days to build a fully functionnal, convertible desk/simpit, and I didn't even stopped simming during that time... (Despite a budget smaller than my weekly happymeal allowance of the time... It was a win win since skipping lunch gave me more time for building...)
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Postby yanpa » Sun Jun 22, 2014 11:31 am

Probably around the time I decided it was too much hassle to run Linux on a laptop and that OS X on Apple hardware was well worth the additional cost.

I happily dick around with my custom-built Linux desktop, but there are good practical reasons for that. But somewhere I gotta set a limit, otherwise I could end up spending hours and days and weeks twiddling with stuff for no substantial gain.
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Postby Coligny » Sun Jun 22, 2014 11:44 am

Ok, so it's more a case of "mo' betta things to do" than my "this hobby sux!"
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Postby yanpa » Sun Jun 22, 2014 1:54 pm

Coligny wrote:Ok, so it's more a case of "mo' betta things to do" than my "this hobby sux!"


A bit of both...

El Reg commentard wrote:I couldn't put my finger on exactly what it is, but there's something about flashing a new version of Cyanogenmod every month or so that I enjoy. It might be the combination of fear and anticipation as I wait to find out if something I need has been completely broken, or something new and useful has been added.


http://forums.theregister.co.uk/forum/1 ... #c_2221661

For me, the "fear and anticipation" of potentially breaking something on an essential device, which at the moment works fine, outweighs any temptation to play with it.
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