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J.A.F.O wrote:I actually don't know much about this subjuect, the pros and cons. But has anyone went after citizenship?
Samurai_Jerk wrote:J.A.F.O wrote:I actually don't know much about this subjuect, the pros and cons. But has anyone went after citizenship?
You're American, right? If you actually got J citizen would you give up US as required by the J government (though not something they can easily enforce). If so, that's when most of your problems would arise and those problems would all come from Uncle Sam.
gaijinpunch wrote:Why anybody from the free world would want it over PR is far beyond my comprehension (unless you really think voting for PM will help)
Samurai_Jerk wrote:If so, that's when most of your problems would arise and those problems would all come from Uncle Sam.
Wibble wrote:Or is a non-resident permanent resident also a non taxable permanent tax resident?
wuchan wrote:the only benefits for citizenship is being able to vote or getting a public job (ministry, cop, firefighter, city hall etc...). Truth be told your vote won't make a difference and even if you were a citizen they probably still wouldn't give you a a job as a cop just based on your looks.
omae mona wrote:But because of my ropponginarcotics.com business, I always thought I was at a bit of risk.
omae mona wrote:By contrast, they can't kick you out if you're a citizen, no matter what you do. I believe there is international law, or at least norms, that *strongly* discourage countries from creating stateless individuals.
gaijinpunch wrote:Samurai_Jerk wrote:J.A.F.O wrote:I actually don't know much about this subjuect, the pros and cons. But has anyone went after citizenship?
All they can do is indian give your J-citizenship. Why anybody from the free world would want it over PR is far beyond my comprehension (unless you really think voting for PM will help)
havill wrote:Quick nitpick: you don't vote for P.M.
wuchan wrote:the only benefits for citizenship is being able to vote or getting a public job (ministry, cop, firefighter, city hall etc...). Truth be told your vote won't make a difference and even if you were a citizen they probably still wouldn't give you a a job as a cop just based on your looks.
havill wrote:For example, I work on a quasi-government subcommittee...
havill wrote:Aside from voting, there is one more thing Japanese nationals can do as plain old residents that affects democracy: while you're about as likely to be chosen as winning the lottery, being a national allows you to be a lay judge. You could be chosen to help decide if someone (Japanese or non-Japanese) literally gets the noose during a trial.
Screwed-down Hairdo wrote:havill wrote:For example, I work on a quasi-government subcommittee...
Why doesn't that surprise me?
Not a vegan are you?
havill wrote:What? Is that an inside FG joke?
Screwed-down Hairdo wrote:havill wrote:What? Is that an inside FG joke?
Sorry, I'm just trying to be a smart arse!
Hope you enjoy your dish of scientific research
Doubly sorry: just realized who you are. I hope you're not eating on company time....
yanpa wrote:For the paranoid out there, there is a SSL-enabled version of FG and the certificate's SHA1 fingerprint is: 0A:2F:3E:B9:43:11:4E:F3:E8:38:D8:14:33:EB:02:6F:50:D5:75:FA
(note: the truly paranoid should consider the possibility that the CA has provided a backdoor to the NSA or similar in the certificate chain)
havill wrote:For example, I work on a quasi-government subcommittee...
havill wrote:yanpa wrote:For the paranoid out there, there is a SSL-enabled version of FG and the certificate's SHA1 fingerprint is: 0A:2F:3E:B9:43:11:4E:F3:E8:38:D8:14:33:EB:02:6F:50:D5:75:FA
(note: the truly paranoid should consider the possibility that the CA has provided a backdoor to the NSA or similar in the certificate chain)
And for the more pragmatic out there, you should know that SSL does absolutely nothing to hide the actual domain/site you're visiting (http://www.fuckedgaijin.com).
In the founders' infinite wisdom, the choice of domain name (with the word "fuck" in it) will pretty much guarantee it gets highlighted/alerted to your sysadmin at work thanks to keyword filters.
If you use the https version of fucked gaijin, though, your work IT admins will not be able to tell if you're reading "keeping PR" or "J-Babe Appreciation Thread".
Screwed-down Hairdo wrote:havill wrote:What? Is that an inside FG joke?
Sorry, I'm just trying to be a smart arse!
Hope you enjoy your dish of scientific research
Doubly sorry: just realized who you are. I hope you're not eating on company time....
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