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Re: "No sex please --- we're Japanese."

Postby Russell » Wed May 14, 2014 9:42 pm

kagemusha wrote:
Russell wrote:
1. Full financial support for the birth of children

2. More financial support for raising children

3. More affordable daycare centers

4. Drastic decrease of fees to study at universities

5. More stable jobs for young people

6. More oyajis sent to go to war with China :mrgreen:


1 - more poor and low class families having more noisy yanki kids

Often great men or women are born into poor low class families.

kagemusha wrote:2 - If you don't have the basic funds - don't make babies for somebody else to support them.

But society needs those babies, so society is gonna fund them. In the end it is a political choice what society does. And remember those babies will become tax payers funding your pension.

kagemusha wrote:3 - The problem is not the tuition - it's much lower than in most of the western world. You will have more public daycare centers without any educational benefits - see 1

We are talking here about a solution for Japan. Apparently there are insufficient daycare centers here, let alone affordable ones. In any case, there are great variations in day care centers in the western world.

kagemusha wrote:4 - More stupid students, lowering the academic standards, and they are already not so high. Instead Keep the stupids outside and give poor students with potential the full public support.

Someone born into a poor family is not necessary stupid, and neither is the opposite true. Imagine that medical education would be available to people of poor parents, then talent and ability rather than money would decide who would become a medical doctor. It certainly would not be bad for Japan.

kagemusha wrote:5 - The most important and needed action by the Japanese government. So many social and monetary implications.

6. :-)

Glad we agree on these ones...
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Re: "No sex please --- we're Japanese."

Postby Russell » Sun May 18, 2014 12:39 am

A good article by Philip Brasor on the population issue.

Fix population problem by helping families

For the past 18 months, media outlets in Japan and abroad have looked approvingly upon Prime Minister Shinzo Abe’s efforts to improve the country’s economic future through proactive measures dubbed “Abenomics.” The goal is to spur inflation so that companies can make more money and increase pay, thus raising consumption, tax revenues, etc. However, the plan’s long-term success relies on one factor that is not at all assured: a stable population.

Local media have reacted with alarm over the results of a study released May 8 by the National Institute of Population and Social Security Research that says 49.8 percent of Japan’s municipalities will see their populations of women between the ages of 20 and 39 decline by more than half by 2040. Smaller localities may cease to exist because there will be no economic base with which to maintain welfare services, schools and public transportation.

An article in Tokyo Shimbun analyzing the report pointed out that 80 percent of these at-risk municipalities are in five prefectures — Aomori, Iwate, Akita, Yamagata and Shimane — all of which already show lopsided demographics. The portion of elderly is high, and many of the employment opportunities for younger women in these areas are in the medical and nursing fields. As people die and are not replaced, these workers will be compelled to go elsewhere, thus draining the area of women even before they have a chance to get married and settle down. A corollary mission of Abenomics is to get more women into the workforce, and in order to make that happen they will have to go to where the work is — cities.

Last week in an interim report, an advisory panel to the prime minister questioned the wisdom of an economic strategy that doesn’t prioritize population maintenance. Though the nation’s low birthrate has been a well-known issue since the late 80s, there has been no applied effort on the part of authorities to address it. Tokyo Shimbun made this point in the headline of a related article: The government has always seen the birthrate issue as a “secondary” consideration. Though the Democratic Party of Japan didn’t do anything either during its short tenure as the ruling party, it did try to allocate a budget of ¥1 trillion to address the low birthrate in its plan to overhaul the social security system.

Last February, the Abe administration revived this plan, at least in spirit, when it earmarked ¥1.1 trillion to create daycare facilities, since the government has come around to the reality that women who work will not have babies unless such facilities are more available. But in the end the Liberal Democratic Party could not find enough money in the budget. That’s because Abenomics is predicated on public works, for which the government has put aside ¥6 trillion, an increase of 12.9 percent over 2013. The priorities are even clearer when you consider the administration has budgeted ¥4.2 trillion for defense-related outlays, a 2.8 percent increase over last year and the second annual boost in a row.

Keio University professor Yoshio Higuchi told Tokyo Shimbun that the government has never taken depopulation seriously. Officials at both the national and local levels always address more immediate social problems, such as care for the elderly, and push long-term issues, like creating an environment in which younger people might want to have children, to the back burner. Nothing ever gets done and so, according to Higuchi, “average citizens have no particular feeling” about depopulation.

Another reason the government has not taken the matter seriously is that until now it didn’t directly affect the economy. Though the birthrate has been low for decades, there was no concurrent labor shortage. But now there is, and unless more workers are found, the economic system as it stands cannot be sustained.

That might not be a problem if the system were replaced with something more suitable to Japan’s present social situation, but such a possibility also seems to be outside the purview of the authorities. Another government study panel, assembled by the Cabinet Office, discussed the low birthrate issue this past spring, and according to Asahi Shimbun it was hard put to proceed without first setting a numerical goal, a birthrate “target.” Asahi reported that this remark “met with controversy” because the number would place tacit pressure on young people to have kids and thus “infringe on their right not to have children.” The panel responded, “If we don’t set a specific goal, the public won’t think we’re addressing the issue seriously.” One male professor even seemed to advocate adopting the pre-World War II policy of promoting childbirth. “I know we no longer force women to have babies,” he said, “but we have to send a message.”

The fact that officials are talking about people’s “right” to have or not have children shows how out-of-touch the discussion about the birthrate has become. A recent piece in Aera conveyed the frustration of some women. One university instructor told the magazine that the government “doesn’t respect how individual women live.” It only “thinks up ways that we can be of benefit to the country.”

If the LDP insists on addressing these matters as being purely economic in nature, then it should devise solutions that are purely economic in nature as well. Asahi points out that France boosted its population by giving cash to women who have babies, and Sweden mandates shorter work hours and subsidizes maternity and paternity leaves. What the paper doesn’t mention is that in France and Sweden single motherhood and having children out-of-wedlock aren’t stigmatized administratively or financially. Aera quotes a financial planner who calculates that a child costs an average of ¥27 million from cradle to college graduation, so if the government really wants to increase the birthrate there’s only one sure way to do it: Make it OK for unmarried folks to have kids and pay all couples, wed or unwed, to do it.

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Re: "No sex please --- we're Japanese."

Postby matsuki » Sun May 18, 2014 9:52 am

Great article

Another government study panel, assembled by the Cabinet Office, discussed the low birthrate issue this past spring, and according to Asahi Shimbun it was hard put to proceed without first setting a numerical goal, a birthrate “target.” Asahi reported that this remark “met with controversy” because the number would place tacit pressure on young people to have kids and thus “infringe on their right not to have children.” The panel responded, “If we don’t set a specific goal, the public won’t think we’re addressing the issue seriously.” One male professor even seemed to advocate adopting the pre-World War II policy of promoting childbirth. “I know we no longer force women to have babies,” he said, “but we have to send a message.”


They used to force women to have babies?
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Re: "No sex please --- we're Japanese."

Postby Coligny » Sun May 18, 2014 2:57 pm

They used to force women to have babies?


Just acknowledging the whole comfort women thing methink...
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Re: "No sex please --- we're Japanese."

Postby Wage Slave » Sun May 18, 2014 3:16 pm

All well and good but

1. It will take time and it isn't clear that Japan can afford to wait. The clock is ticking.

2. Where is the money going to come from? As it is, just funding pensions and healthcare is going to be a real stretch at best. Sales tax will likely need to rise to 20% within 5 to 10 years as it is.

3. Politically it isn't going to be easy. Taking a lot of money in tax and giving to to people to have babies may be slightly more palatable to the conservatives than immigration but I still can't see them agreeing to it.
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Re: "No sex please --- we're Japanese."

Postby Russell » Sun May 18, 2014 3:49 pm

It is stated in the article that they spend more than 5 times on construction, as compared to child support.

Where is the money coming from. Well, of course, from cuts on road construction.
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Re: "No sex please --- we're Japanese."

Postby Wage Slave » Sun May 18, 2014 4:06 pm

Russell wrote:It is stated in the article that they spend more than 5 times on construction, as compared to child support.

Where is the money coming from. Well, of course, from cuts on road construction.


It doesn't quite say that. It says they were going to spend 1.1 trillion on new daycare facilities compared to 6 trillion on public works not just roads. Actually the daycare got cancelled. I'd agree that some of those public works should be cancelled and the money either saved or spent on better daycare facilities - it would help a bit. But much more is needed.

I'd need to see more numbers and need to see the projections for pension and health spending. Remember, this is all against a background of an accumulated debt over 200% of GDP and that that debt isn't really being sustained by borrowing on the market but by a cosy internal very low interest fix funded by the savings of the baby boomers. The current savings rate is down below countries like the US and UK so there's not much new saving to borrow. At some point those baby boomers, or their inheritors, are going to want their money and it isn't clear how that's going to be done.

There are real doubts about what Japan can afford to spend - on roads, trains, airports, childcare or anything else.
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Re: "No sex please --- we're Japanese."

Postby Wage Slave » Sun May 18, 2014 4:41 pm

How about this article?

Population fixes have anti-foreign bias, official says
BY TOMOHIRO OSAKI
STAFF WRITER
MAY 16, 2014

The government is in denial over Japan’s looming demographic disaster and adopting unrealistic solutions rather than face the need to accept large numbers of immigrants, a former senior immigration official said Friday.

Hidenori Sakanaka, a former director of the Tokyo Regional Immigration Bureau who now heads the Japan Immigration Policy Institute, said his voice has long gone unheard because an anti-immigration culture exists among Japan’s intellectuals and media.

Speaking at the Foreign Correspondents’ Club of Japan, Sakanaka said that policies such as trying to push the elderly and more women into the workforce to combat shrinkage shows “the government’s desperate desire to avoid opening up their nation to immigration — at all costs.”

On Tuesday, an advisory panel to Prime Minister Shinzo Abe said in an interim report that the government should focus on raising Japan’s birthrate to save the nation from an impending crisis of shrinking towns and workforces.

For Japan to maintain a population of around 100 million over the next 50 years, the report said that Japan’s fertility rate must rise to 2.07 percent from the current 1.41. But it also said it would not recommend the wholesale acceptance of immigrants to forestall the projected decline in the population — as Sakanaka advocates.

He told the audience in Tokyo that he believes Japan should become, over the years, a “nation of immigrants,” dismissing the panel’s suggested goal of boosting the birthrate to 2.07 percent as “unfeasible.”

“Not just Japan, but all other advanced and civilized countries are facing reduced birth rates. I don’t think achieving a 2.07 percent birthrate several decades, or even 100 years from now on, is possible. There are so many unknown elements,” he said.

Sakanaka also condemned Abe’s plan to expand a contentious foreign-trainee program to prevent labor shortages ahead of the 2020 Tokyo Olympics. Experts say unscrupulous employers often exploit such trainees.

They allegedly use the program to obtain cheap labor, which often opens the door to other abuses. Currently the trainees can obtain a three-year visa, but government now plans to allow them to stay for two additional years.

Calling it an “incarnation of modern-day slavery,” Sakanaka said the planned expansion will “only be remembered as an embarrassment.”


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Re: "No sex please --- we're Japanese."

Postby Russell » Sun May 18, 2014 4:43 pm

Isn't Sakanaka the "friend" of Taro?!?
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Re: "No sex please --- we're Japanese."

Postby Taro Toporific » Fri May 30, 2014 11:27 am

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Asexuals tell their stories
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Photographer Laia Abril had long been shooting projects about gender and sexuality when she stumbled into a concept she'd never before heard of: asexuality – people who feel no sexual attraction to others...
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Her own skepticism and lack of knowledge intrigued her, she said.
"Is this real? Are these people fine? Is there any problem?" she remembers thinking. "I like to face these prejudices."...
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They ranged in age from 19 to 82. They lived in the United Kingdom, Italy, France, China and elsewhere. They identified themselves as aromantics, gray-romantics, heteroromantics and other terms tied to where they saw themselves on the spectrum of asexuality...
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."The biggest problem is that people don't know what (asexuality) means," Abril said. Mainstream society doesn't "have strong prejudices; they just think it's a lie or not possible."
Just by revealing the way asexual people see themselves, Abril said she's helping to change the world for those struggling to understand their own sexuality – or lack of it.
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Re: "No sex please --- we're Japanese."

Postby matsuki » Fri May 30, 2014 12:13 pm

I wonder what the percentage of asexuals in Japan is vs other countries. Something in the water maybe? Either way, it's nature's way of ridding the world of your DNA.
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Re: "No sex please --- we're Japanese."

Postby Russell » Thu Jun 26, 2014 9:19 pm

Well, even if she was sexual, she would be unable to attract...

OK, I'll stop now.

Different topic.

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Re: "No sex please --- we're Japanese."

Postby Russell » Sat Jul 19, 2014 2:38 pm

Politician proposes giving newlyweds pierced condoms

A Japanese politician in Aichi Prefecture has landed himself in hot water after suggesting that deliberately punctured condoms be distributed to married couples to counter the country’s dwindling birth rate, local media reported on Friday.

Shinshiro city municipal assembly member Tomonaga Osada received a stern warning and was forced to apologize after making the bizarre proposal, which triggered a flurry of phone calls from enraged locals.

“I cannot deny my comments were disgraceful,” a contrite Osada told the Mainichi Shimbun newspaper. “I’m sorry.”

Osada’s controversial remarks were made at a regular assembly meeting last month, when he also reportedly suggested handing out locally grown Japanese yams—said to boost sexual stamina.

“I suggested the idea because I thought it would make people feel this city hall was a nice and friendly place,” added Osada, talking to Japanese broadcaster NTV.
“I had no intention to criticize or disrespect people who cannot have a baby.”

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Scratching my head at the guy's apology. It just shows he hasn't got any clue.

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Re: "No sex please --- we're Japanese."

Postby matsuki » Sat Jul 19, 2014 4:49 pm

What universe is he living in?? :confused:

Osada, 49, is currently serving his third term as a member of the assembly in Shinshiro, a city with a population of around 49,000.


I guess 49yo Japanese in Aichi is equivalent of a senile 65yo from the bible belt?
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Re: "No sex please --- we're Japanese."

Postby Coligny » Sat Jul 19, 2014 5:47 pm

chokonen888 wrote:What universe is he living in?? :confused:

Osada, 49, is currently serving his third term as a member of the assembly in Shinshiro, a city with a population of around 49,000.


I guess 49yo Japanese in Aichi is equivalent of a senile 65yo from the bible belt?



Shinshiro is a craphole north of me... not a real anything. Their hospital can't even handle deliveries by lack of doctors and patients... there's one coffee baker shop... few humans...
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Postby Taro Toporific » Sun Aug 17, 2014 11:01 pm

wagyl wrote:
Russell wrote:Nevertheless, the dying-out towns visited in the beginning of the documentary are interesting watching.

The dying out towns are also a focus of the Spike Japan blog, now seemingly in permanent hiatus, much like Yubari.

After a one-year hiatus, SpikeJapan is back with artical published in The Guardian: Yubari, Japan: a city learns how to die, and the long version on his website: spikejapan.wordpress.com/2014/08/16/yubari-withering-into-truth
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Re: "No sex please --- we're Japanese."

Postby Samurai_Jerk » Wed Nov 05, 2014 4:23 pm

Japanese Youth Aren't Having Enough Sex

Japan is a sensual paradox: refined, yet sexually blah, blah, blah, blah, blah .......


:zzz:

Consider a visit to one of those love hotels. When a paying client enters such an establishment in Tokyo, he can choose his date by watching her doing “proper” things from behind glass. These include reading a book or sewing. If he wants to go further, the client will have to have a manicure before meeting his date out front for some fully clothed role-play. He will ask her the Japanese equivalent of: “What’s a nice girl like you doing in a place like this?” She will reply, “I’m lonely.” Hewill then offer to buy her a kitten or puppy from one of the dozens of pet stores that operate next door to brothels – an affirmation of her pretence of innocence. Boy and girl spend the evening together; girl takes the animal home. So what does she do with all the puppies she collects? Why, she returns them to the pet store the next day and splits the refund.


Wait... What!?
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Postby IparryU » Wed Nov 05, 2014 5:03 pm

But I agree with Rupert that the celibacy syndrome is more probably a reaction to Japan’s historic sexual intensity. There is, for instance, the perennial obsession with modesty. When Minegishi Minami of the Japanese pop group AKB48 was caught allowing her boyfriend to spend the night, she was so ashamed that she shaved all her hair off and issued a tearful public apology – looking like a poor, plucked eaglet. This wasn’t just an act of prurience: it was a tacit acceptance that by sleeping with one boy she had sacrificed some of her sexual appeal for all the other boys. In Japan, modesty is not just a virtue. It is arousing.

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Postby matsuki » Wed Nov 05, 2014 5:08 pm

What kind of love hotel is that???

When Minegishi Minami of the Japanese pop group AKB48 was caught allowing her boyfriend to spend the night, she was so ashamed that she shaved all her hair off and issued a tearful public apology – looking like a poor, plucked eaglet. This wasn’t just an act of prurience: it was a tacit acceptance that by sleeping with one boy she had sacrificed some of her sexual appeal for all the other boys.


That's not what she told me :twisted:
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Re: "No sex please --- we're Japanese."

Postby Taro Toporific » Thu Nov 06, 2014 7:22 am

Japanese Youth Aren't Having Enough Sex
Japan is a sensual paradox: refined, yet sexually blah, blah, blah, blah, blah .......


They're just waiting to meet the right octopus
... youth suffer from “celibacy syndrome… a third of under-30s have never been on a date, and a quarter of men and half of women say that sex just isn’t for them. Over the next 30 years the population is projected to plummet by a third.”
Youngsters claim that they are happy with platonic friendships and are focusing on their careers, and they could be telling the truth. Maybe Japan is populated by clean-living kids who are justwaiting to meet the rightoctopus.
--- Business Insider: Japanese Youth Aren't Having Enough Sex


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Postby yanpa » Thu Nov 06, 2014 8:37 am

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Postby Russell » Thu Nov 06, 2014 9:39 am

I can only imagine how Escher would have worked out that theme...
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Postby wagyl » Thu Nov 06, 2014 10:12 am

Russell wrote:I can only imagine how Escher would have worked out that theme...

Tessellating with eight sided figures is difficult, unless you put small four sided figures in the gaps. Randy octopuses flying kites, perhaps?

Taro Toporific wrote:rightoctopus

A google search on rightoctopus seems to show that it is a widely used spamword. I don't recommend clicking on any of the results which introduce dating partners in the Celtic fringe, not for ethnic reasons, but because they look like malware transports.

The original Telegraph blog piece does include the octopus, however, and has none of the lost spaces artefacts which entered the text when Business Insider scraped content for clickbait.
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Postby Russell » Thu Nov 06, 2014 10:24 am

wagyl wrote:
Russell wrote:I can only imagine how Escher would have worked out that theme...

Tessellating with eight sided figures is difficult, unless you put small four sided figures in the gaps. Randy octopuses flying kites, perhaps?

It is also possible to fill it with eight sided figures that become smaller at the borders ad infinitum, like in some of his works. These patterns are called non-Euclidean tilings.

Imagine that, an infinite number of octopii trying to satisfy an infinite number times eight women, all in that small circle...
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Postby wagyl » Thu Nov 06, 2014 10:40 am

Russell wrote:
wagyl wrote:
Russell wrote:I can only imagine how Escher would have worked out that theme...

Tessellating with eight sided figures is difficult, unless you put small four sided figures in the gaps. Randy octopuses flying kites, perhaps?

It is also possible to fill it with eight sided figures that become smaller at the borders ad infinitum, like in some of his works. These patterns are called non-Euclidean tilings.

Imagine that, an infinite number of octopii trying to satisfy an infinite number times eight women, all in that small circle...


As you are aware I was imagining this:
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Postby matsuki » Thu Nov 06, 2014 1:15 pm

Taro Toporific wrote:
Japanese Youth Aren't Having Enough Sex
Japan is a sensual paradox: refined, yet sexually blah, blah, blah, blah, blah .......


They're just waiting to meet the right octopus
... youth suffer from “celibacy syndrome… a third of under-30s have never been on a date, and a quarter of men and half of women say that sex just isn’t for them. Over the next 30 years the population is projected to plummet by a third.”
Youngsters claim that they are happy with platonic friendships and are focusing on their careers, and they could be telling the truth. Maybe Japan is populated by clean-living kids who are justwaiting to meet the rightoctopus.
--- Business Insider: Japanese Youth Aren't Having Enough Sex


I mentioned this stuff to the lemur I was drinking with last night and she said she literally couldn't get dick when she was feigning for it a couple years ago. (she's 24 now...so yeah, got to be something wrong when a 22yo cute girl with G-cups can't get laid) Her solution was "Happening Bars" ハップバー which she explained were these bars in kabukicho where you pay a cover fee to get in and pretty much everyone in there is there to get laid. (Calm down though, she said most of the other females in there were in their 30's and really plain....also sounds like a great way to get murdered in your sleep)
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Re: "No sex please --- we're Japanese."

Postby IparryU » Thu Nov 06, 2014 1:31 pm

chokonen888 wrote:
Taro Toporific wrote:
Japanese Youth Aren't Having Enough Sex
Japan is a sensual paradox: refined, yet sexually blah, blah, blah, blah, blah .......


They're just waiting to meet the right octopus
... youth suffer from “celibacy syndrome… a third of under-30s have never been on a date, and a quarter of men and half of women say that sex just isn’t for them. Over the next 30 years the population is projected to plummet by a third.”
Youngsters claim that they are happy with platonic friendships and are focusing on their careers, and they could be telling the truth. Maybe Japan is populated by clean-living kids who are justwaiting to meet the rightoctopus.
--- Business Insider: Japanese Youth Aren't Having Enough Sex


I mentioned this stuff to the lemur I was drinking with last night and she said she literally couldn't get dick when she was feigning for it a couple years ago. (she's 24 now...so yeah, got to be something wrong when a 22yo cute girl with G-cups can't get laid) Her solution was "Happening Bars" ハップバー which she explained were these bars in kabukicho where you pay a cover fee to get in and pretty much everyone in there is there to get laid. (Calm down though, she said most of the other females in there were in their 30's and really plain....also sounds like a great way to get murdered in your sleep)

did you get the name or exact location? That's whats up though, damn relationships are killing my personal time.
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Re: "No sex please --- we're Japanese."

Postby Samurai_Jerk » Thu Nov 06, 2014 1:48 pm

There are happening bars (i.e. swingers clubs) all over the place.
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Re: "No sex please --- we're Japanese."

Postby matsuki » Thu Nov 06, 2014 1:55 pm

Samurai_Jerk wrote:There are happening bars (i.e. swingers clubs) all over the place.


School us SJ, this is the first I've heard of these.
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Re: "No sex please --- we're Japanese."

Postby wagyl » Thu Nov 06, 2014 2:18 pm

Jesus Choko you already have all the ammo you need
http://lmgtfy.com/?q=%E3%83%8F%E3%83%83 ... 0%E3%83%BC
and I don't think this is a positive step for you, just quietly.
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