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Re: JOC Want 2020 Japan Olympics [Edit: 2016]

Postby wagyl » Wed May 21, 2014 6:57 pm

There are some nice timbers here, and it is a better showcase for them than guard rails on roads.

Some nice examples of use of timber in architecture: https://www.japlusu.com/news/remarkable ... structures
(First news I had that Metz was in Japan....)
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Re: JOC Want 2020 Japan Olympics [Edit: 2016]

Postby Coligny » Wed May 21, 2014 7:01 pm

Bearing in mind that the 2020 Olympics will be held in midsummer in Tokyo, it is expected that the timber will help boost athletes’ performance as wood functions to condition humidity and has soothing effects on people, according to the Forestry Agency and other sources.



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Re: JOC Want 2020 Japan Olympics [Edit: 2016]

Postby wagyl » Wed May 21, 2014 7:08 pm

Coligny wrote:
Bearing in mind that the 2020 Olympics will be held in midsummer in Tokyo, it is expected that the timber will help boost athletes’ performance as wood functions to condition humidity and has soothing effects on people, according to the Forestry Agency and other sources.



Retards...

It's not even funny anymore to be surrounded by people so full of shit.


I agree that that marketing puffery was a few steps too far. Maybe it is time that you got your space rocket working, so that you can escape the surrounding people and their shit.
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Re: JOC Want 2020 Japan Olympics [Edit: 2016]

Postby Coligny » Wed May 21, 2014 8:22 pm

wagyl wrote:
Coligny wrote:
Bearing in mind that the 2020 Olympics will be held in midsummer in Tokyo, it is expected that the timber will help boost athletes’ performance as wood functions to condition humidity and has soothing effects on people, according to the Forestry Agency and other sources.



Retards...

It's not even funny anymore to be surrounded by people so full of shit.


I agree that that marketing puffery was a few steps too far. Maybe it is time that you got your space rocket working, so that you can escape the surrounding people and their shit.



oh boy... they are sooo fucked...

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Re: JOC Want 2020 Japan Olympics [Edit: 2016]

Postby legion » Wed May 21, 2014 8:47 pm

They have been looking for a way to use their excess wood for a while, planted all that hay fever forest expecting it to be used for building then fashions changed and import wood got cheaper. Quite why they don't slap a huge duty on foreign wood escapes me.
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Re: JOC Want 2020 Japan Olympics [Edit: 2016]

Postby Wage Slave » Wed May 21, 2014 8:55 pm

legion wrote:Quite why they don't slap a huge duty on foreign wood escapes me.


They can't is why. GATT and the like, plus the fact people tend to retaliate if you do that kind of thing. You have to be more indirect and find some health or safety issue with imported wood and then trade negotiators start banging their fists on the table and threatening penalties.

The money made from exporting cars and electronics and other manufactured goods far outweighs the interests of the forestry industry. Same with rice really but that's special, near holy, allegedly, unless it is used for making processed food.
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Re: JOC Want 2020 Japan Olympics [Edit: 2016]

Postby legion » Thu May 22, 2014 12:31 am

guess so

but they still have that huge mark up on leather products

I am all in favour of finding ways to chop down the mono culture forests and replace them with a variety of trees

Within two miles or so from Yedo, and yet well away from the toil and din of the great city, stands the village of Meguro. Once past the outskirts of the town, the road leading thither is bounded on either side by woodlands rich in an endless variety of foliage, broken at intervals by the long, low line of villages and hamlets. As we draw near to Meguro, the scenery, becoming more and more rustic, increases in beauty. Deep shady lanes, bordered by hedgerows as luxurious as any in England, lead down to a valley of rice fields bright with the emerald green of the young crops. To the right and to the left rise knolls of fantastic shape, crowned with a profusion of Cryptomerias, Scotch firs and other cone-bearing trees, and fringed with thickets of feathery bamboos, bending their stems gracefully to the light summer breeze. Wherever there is a spot shadier and pleasanter to look upon than the rest, there may be seen the red portal of a shrine which the simple piety of the country folk has raised to Inari Sama, the patron god of farming, or to some other tutelary deity of the place. At the eastern outlet of the valley a strip of blue sea bounds the horizon; westward are the distant mountains. In the foreground, in front of a farmhouse, snug-looking, with its roof of velvety-brown thatch, a troop of sturdy urchins, suntanned and stark naked, are frisking in the wildest gambols, all heedless of the scolding voice of the withered old grandam who sits spinning and minding the house, while her son and his wife are away toiling at some outdoor labour. Close at our feet runs a stream of pure water, in which a group of countrymen are washing the vegetables which they will presently shoulder and carry off to sell by auction in the suburbs of Yedo. Not the least beauty of the scene consists in the wondrous clearness of an atmosphere so transparent that the most distant outlines are scarcely dimmed, while the details of the nearer ground stand out in sharp, bold relief, now lit by the rays of a vertical sun, now darkened under the flying shadows thrown by the fleecy clouds which sail across the sky. Under such a heaven, what painter could limn the lights and shades which flit over the woods, the pride of Japan, whether in late autumn, when the russets and yellows of our own trees are mixed with the deep crimson glow of the maples, or in spring-time, when plum and cherry trees and wild camellias—giants, fifty feet high—are in full blossom?


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Re: JOC Want 2020 Japan Olympics [Edit: 2016]

Postby wagyl » Thu May 22, 2014 11:09 am

legion wrote:
Baron Algernon Bertram Freeman-Mitford Redesdale G.C.V.O., K.C.B. wrote:A lovely description of Tokyo from a mere five or six generations ago


http://www.gutenberg.org/files/13015/13015-h/13015-h.htm


Thanks for that. I love those kind of books. My previous favourite is Isabella Bird
http://www.gutenberg.org/ebooks/2184

It seems that the Baron was a bit of a goer too. A different kind of international diplomacy:
During his time in Japan he was said to have fathered two children with a geisha. Later he was considered to be one of the possible fathers of Clementine Hozier (1885–1977), in the course of an affair with his wife's sister Blanche. Clementine married Winston Churchill in 1908.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Algernon_F ... fatherhood
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Re: JOC Want 2020 Japan Olympics [Edit: 2016]

Postby Wage Slave » Thu May 22, 2014 11:27 am

legion wrote:guess so

but they still have that huge mark up on leather products

I am all in favour of finding ways to chop down the mono culture forests and replace them with a variety of trees


They do. I suppose that is accepted by trading partners because the Burakumin are recognised as a disadvantaged minority. I wonder how many of them are actually in the leather trade these days.

Anyway, I couldn't agree with you more about the sugi forests. An absolute disaster in every way. The odd little patch of unplanted forest gives just a tantalising glimpse of how beautiful it was before it was utterly ruined.
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Re: JOC Want 2020 Japan Olympics [Edit: 2016]

Postby kurogane » Thu May 22, 2014 1:01 pm

Coligny wrote:
Bearing in mind that the 2020 Olympics will be held in midsummer in Tokyo, it is expected that the timber will help boost athletes’ performance as wood functions to condition humidity and has soothing effects on people, according to the Forestry Agency and other sources.



Retards...

It's not even funny anymore to be surrounded by people so full of shit.


Am I missing something??? Are there structural issues with a wooden building of that size, or is it the general squishy bumfuffery of those sorts of announcements that bugged you, or are you a concrete and steel industry shill????? I ask because what they about wood is true. Wood makes for a much more woody environment. Not tinny at all.


BTW, as a long sufferer of the Leather Tax applied to my size 11.5 import shoes, it was explained to me that it was a Luxury Tax and a rare holdover from the immediate postwar protective tariff days that simply never got repealed. I used to get it discounted or cut if I made the truck out to the Port of Osaka Customs office, which is why I started ordering 3 pairs at a time. That was back in the late 90s. It doesn't contradict Wage Slave's interesting rationale, of course.
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Re: JOC Want 2020 Japan Olympics [Edit: 2016]

Postby Samurai_Jerk » Thu May 22, 2014 1:50 pm

chokonen888 wrote:
Russell wrote:2020 Tokyo Games facilities to showcase domestic wood

:keyboardcoffee:


Well you know that they say, what Japanese wood lacks in size, it makes up in stiffness. :twisted:


So I guess that means it's safer to use big floppy FG wood what with all the earthquakes and typhoons and such.
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Re: JOC Want 2020 Japan Olympics [Edit: 2016]

Postby wagyl » Thu May 22, 2014 1:56 pm

kurogane wrote:
Coligny wrote:
Bearing in mind that the 2020 Olympics will be held in midsummer in Tokyo, it is expected that the timber will help boost athletes’ performance as wood functions to condition humidity and has soothing effects on people, according to the Forestry Agency and other sources.



Retards...

It's not even funny anymore to be surrounded by people so full of shit.


Am I missing something??? Are there structural issues with a wooden building of that size, or is it the general squishy bumfuffery of those sorts of announcements that bugged you, or are you a concrete and steel industry shill????? I ask because what they about wood is true. Wood makes for a much more woody environment. Not tinny at all.


Far be it from me to run to the defence of Gaspard, but "wooden structures will boost athletic performance" and "wooden structures (more likely to be wooden benches and some cosmetic cladding on ceilings) will soothe?" Puhleeze. It smacks of "this onsen helps you relax and overcome muscle weariness" style Germanic pseudoscience bordering on homeopathy. Your onsen does that? So does my bath of heated tap water.
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Re: JOC Want 2020 Japan Olympics [Edit: 2016]

Postby Samurai_Jerk » Thu May 22, 2014 2:02 pm

wagyl wrote:
kurogane wrote:
Coligny wrote:
Bearing in mind that the 2020 Olympics will be held in midsummer in Tokyo, it is expected that the timber will help boost athletes’ performance as wood functions to condition humidity and has soothing effects on people, according to the Forestry Agency and other sources.



Retards...

It's not even funny anymore to be surrounded by people so full of shit.


Am I missing something??? Are there structural issues with a wooden building of that size, or is it the general squishy bumfuffery of those sorts of announcements that bugged you, or are you a concrete and steel industry shill????? I ask because what they about wood is true. Wood makes for a much more woody environment. Not tinny at all.


Far be it from me to run to the defence of Gaspard, but "wooden structures will boost athletic performance" and "wooden structures (more likely to be wooden benches and some cosmetic cladding on ceilings) will soothe?" Puhleeze. It smacks of "this onsen helps you relax and overcome muscle weariness" style Germanic pseudoscience bordering on homeopathy. Your onsen does that? So does my bath of heated tap water.


I don't know about boosting athletic performance but I certainly find wooden interiors to be far more soothing (maybe relaxing would be a better word) than steel and concrete. I do agree that overall it sounds like a bunch or horseshit though.
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Re: JOC Want 2020 Japan Olympics [Edit: 2016]

Postby kurogane » Thu May 22, 2014 2:07 pm

Yes, no argument about the horsehit factor of those sorts of pronouncements. Just trying to reduce the tinny resonance a touch. Nice to hear there's somebody else that doesn't fall into the Onsen Trap.

And sadly, as Wagyl noted it will likely be a cosmetic sop, like the woody themed concrete park fences and benches they have.
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Re: JOC Want 2020 Japan Olympics [Edit: 2016]

Postby wagyl » Thu May 22, 2014 2:12 pm

And blue painted rooms are more soothing than red painted rooms.

I actually support the idea of incorporating timber into the stadiums that I will never see. Making a stupid claim about athletic prowess, that I do not support.
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Re: JOC Want 2020 Japan Olympics [Edit: 2016]

Postby kurogane » Thu May 22, 2014 2:34 pm

wagyl wrote:And blue painted rooms are more soothing than red painted rooms..


There are rooms painted red!!!????????????????? Now that's fucked up. Seriously..........that is really fucking stupid.

I am also looking forward to not in any way enjoying, viewing or supporting the Tokyo games and wholeheartedly support their woodiness.

Did you know you can enjoy the full homeoextravagant benefits of a real Onsen by using any of the many proprietary bath salts mixtures available at your local Drug Off!
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Re: JOC Want 2020 Japan Olympics [Edit: 2016]

Postby matsuki » Thu May 22, 2014 4:55 pm

wagyl wrote:
legion wrote:It seems that the Baron was a bit of a goer too. A different kind of international diplomacy:
During his time in Japan he was said to have fathered two children with a geisha. Later he was considered to be one of the possible fathers of Clementine Hozier (1885–1977), in the course of an affair with his wife's sister Blanche. Clementine married Winston Churchill in 1908.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Algernon_F ... fatherhood


Now that's some international diplomacy I get get behind!
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Re: JOC Want 2020 Japan Olympics [Edit: 2016]

Postby Coligny » Thu May 22, 2014 5:14 pm

kurogane wrote:
Coligny wrote:
Bearing in mind that the 2020 Olympics will be held in midsummer in Tokyo, it is expected that the timber will help boost athletes’ performance as wood functions to condition humidity and has soothing effects on people, according to the Forestry Agency and other sources.



Retards...

It's not even funny anymore to be surrounded by people so full of shit.


Am I missing something??? Are there structural issues with a wooden building of that size, or is it the general squishy bumfuffery of those sorts of announcements that bugged you, or are you a concrete and steel industry shill????? I ask because what they about wood is true. Wood makes for a much more woody environment. Not tinny at all.


BTW, as a long sufferer of the Leather Tax applied to my size 11.5 import shoes, it was explained to me that it was a Luxury Tax and a rare holdover from the immediate postwar protective tariff days that simply never got repealed. I used to get it discounted or cut if I made the truck out to the Port of Osaka Customs office, which is why I started ordering 3 pairs at a time. That was back in the late 90s. It doesn't contradict Wage Slave's interesting rationale, of course.



To quote hubby from anudder thread:

Samurai Djeurk wrote: how the new holiday day could even help China-Japan relations

Whaaaa ....!!?? :shake:

That makes the wood improves athletic performance claim look down right scientifical.
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Re: JOC Want 2020 Japan Olympics [Edit: 2016]

Postby Coligny » Thu May 22, 2014 5:15 pm

wagyl wrote:Far be it from me to run to the defence of Gaspard, but "wooden structures will boost athletic performance" and "wooden structures (more likely to be wooden benches and some cosmetic cladding on ceilings) will soothe?" Puhleeze. It smacks of "this onsen helps you relax and overcome muscle weariness" style Germanic pseudoscience bordering on homeopathy. Your onsen does that? So does my bath of heated tap water.



I knewed he had a seekreet hardon for mee...
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Re: JOC Want 2020 Japan Olympics [Edit: 2016]

Postby kurogane » Fri May 23, 2014 11:07 am

I just wanted to complain that yesterday I was told to "Drug Off!!!!!!!!!!!" by a certain poster on this thread, but the evidence of that post has disappeared. I only complain because I wanted to use the phrase in my new series of inspirational homeopathic printed T-Shirts, available in bright garment dyed pastel colours and coming to a shitty Harajuku tat stall near you. Well, near Gomi-Girl, at any rate.

I am also interested in this new age idea of the restorative powers of this heated tap water stuff. Does anybody know much about pursuing a patent application in Japan? I know it all sounds like a ludicrous Orwellian or Huxleyesque fantasy, but I was thinking I could bottle it and make a mint. Could you imagine that? Bottled tap water...............who would buy that!!???? :shock:

My Copyright (2014), btw!!!!!!!!!!!!
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Re: JOC Want 2020 Japan Olympics [Edit: 2016]

Postby wagyl » Fri May 23, 2014 12:27 pm

My deepest apologies. I was working on the principle that jokes which don't deserve to see the light of day should be killed off before they are too widely distributed. I thought you had probably seen it, but nobody else needed to, so it got the delete button. No need to have the whole internet keeping a record of that post.

Please can it be a hypercolour t-shirt!?
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Postby Coligny » Fri May 23, 2014 12:31 pm

Bit late to that game...

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Postby kurogane » Fri May 23, 2014 12:39 pm

wagyl wrote:My deepest apologies. I was working on the principle that jokes which don't deserve to see the light of day should be killed off before they are too widely distributed. I thought you had probably seen it, but nobody else needed to, so it got the delete button. No need to have the whole internet keeping a record of that post.

Please can it be a hypercolour t-shirt!?


Hehehehe. All fair enough. I will get the Oompa Loompas on your chosen colour scheme. It might take a while in development, as we need to properly align the homeopathic energy waves with the colour aura to achieve the maximum Happiness Coefficient. Anyways, Namaste. :shock:

Coligny,
Wow. A hilarious but cool idea. Is that new? I wonder how long it will take them to realise that their name means Tacky Boy in Japanese (Kyoto???), and that even post-industrial consumers simply can't be that stupid.........
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Postby wagyl » Fri May 23, 2014 12:48 pm

Coca Cola have been selling Dasani in the US market for at least 15 years in my personal knowledge, and that was around the time that it was revealed to be filtered scheme water.

Edited to add: Wikipedia confirms the 15 years, and is well worth reading for marketing errors recorded there!
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Re: JOC Want 2020 Japan Olympics [Edit: 2016]

Postby Coligny » Fri May 23, 2014 1:15 pm

kurogane wrote:Coligny,
Wow. A hilarious but cool idea. Is that new? I wonder how long it will take them to realise that their name means Tacky Boy in Japanese (Kyoto???), and that even post-industrial consumers simply can't be that stupid.........



wagyl wrote:Coca Cola have been selling Dasani in the US market for at least 15 years


no hope... :shakeh:
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Postby kurogane » Fri May 23, 2014 1:26 pm

Ummm, guys...............I was playing it for ironic effect.

Mountain Fresh Whistler Water was also found to be a bottled version of the tap water available at North America's Premier Ski and Mountain Resort!, and the poor yuppies actually felt cheated. I do believe that retail bottled water must meet the same requirements as tap water, hence the shell game maneuver. It's been quite a while since I had a good laugh at that one. I had almost forgotten how absurd it really is. Bottled Water in 2 of the the world's most hygienic countries. One for the ages, and the Swifts and Orwells.

Anyways. My claim is for this newfangled restorative HEATED tap water. In a bottle, and for a limited time only accompanied by a pastel shade sachet of fragrant bath salts saturated in homeopathic energies. Send the royalties to Yanpa.
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Re: JOC Want 2020 Japan Olympics [Edit: 2016]

Postby wagyl » Fri May 23, 2014 1:44 pm

I'm not buying it unless you claim it is spunk.
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Re: JOC Want 2020 Japan Olympics [Edit: 2016]

Postby kurogane » Fri May 23, 2014 1:50 pm

Coises! Foiled again! The secret of my sauce has leaked out.

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Re: JOC Want 2020 Japan Olympics [Edit: 2016]

Postby Coligny » Fri May 23, 2014 3:47 pm

kurogane wrote:Ummm, guys...............I was playing it for ironic effect.

Mountain Fresh Whistler Water was also found to be a bottled version of the tap water available at North America's Premier Ski and Mountain Resort!, and the poor yuppies actually felt cheated. I do believe that retail bottled water must meet the same requirements as tap water, hence the shell game maneuver. It's been quite a while since I had a good laugh at that one. I had almost forgotten how absurd it really is. Bottled Water in 2 of the the world's most hygienic countries. One for the ages, and the Swifts and Orwells.

Anyways. My claim is for this newfangled restorative HEATED tap water. In a bottle, and for a limited time only accompanied by a pastel shade sachet of fragrant bath salts saturated in homeopathic energies. Send the royalties to Yanpa.


Are you including japanese tap water in your "hygienic countries" thing ?

Because my bunghole would really disagree with you...
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Postby IparryU » Fri May 23, 2014 4:47 pm

Bottled Water Myths: Separating Fact from Fiction
http://www.medicine.virginia.edu/clinical/departments/medicine/divisions/digestive-health/nutrition-support-team/nutrition-articles/LeisingArticle.pdf
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