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Re: 46 things that surprise FG in Japan

Postby wangta » Mon Jul 28, 2014 8:06 pm

Samurai_Jerk wrote:Another list. This time it's 50 reasons Tokyo is the world's greatest city. The list is .... meh. Check out the comments though. They're really negative.

Here's a couple of examples:

All true, but you forgot to mention that as a non-Japanese/foreigner you will be the victim of racism and discrimination without fail. Moreover, English is not widely spoken, or even attempted at many of the above establishment. Finally, don't even consider going if you do not have serious coin; backpackers not welcome.


Lucy Blackman, Lindsay Hawker, Nicola Furlong, Scott Kang, Richard Scott Tucker, Julia Chu, Lin Chih-ying, all young foreigners murdered because they thought Tokyo night-life was safe. There are many more cases we never hear about.

Many Japanese think the red light zones are dangerous. Governor Ishihara said he was too scared to go there, and he ordered police to arrest foreigners working there. Roppongi and Shinjuku are notorious for credit card scams, spiked drinks and drugs, yakuza violence and rip-offs. You didn't hear about those 10 guys with baseball bats beating somebody to death in front of 300 people at a dance club? Remember the Nozaki case? He got 3 years for flushing a Filipina's body parts down a toilet, got out of jail, killed another. Even famous TV host Peter Barakan was assaulted. Mainali from Nepal spent 16 years in jail for a crime he didn't commit in Shibuya red light district. The stories go on and on.

These gaijin writers, who work in government propaganda roles, would know all about these cases. Writing about cat cafes and eating dirt is one thing. Telling foreign visitors they are safe in a red light district, when they are not, is pretty bad. It's an outright lie, and a dangerous one. Why is CNN paying these people to write this? Would you tell people they are safe in sleazy bars in Pattaya or Phuket or Phnom Penh or Manila? When the next innocent foreigner dies in Tokyo, we can thank this site for keeping people blind and ignorant about Japan.


Of course the person who wrote the above doesn't mind mixing their 'facts' up. Lucy Blackman was working as a hostess and chose to go on a date outside nighclub/restaurant territory with a stranger. He may have initially gone to the club as a customer but it was her choice to go to his home at the beachside and he was still a stranger. She did not deserve to have anything bad happen to her - assault, rape, murder, or anything else - but I remember thinking at the time her parents and Tony Blair were pushing the Japanese govt to do something to investigate for real that she was probably the victim of a rogue customer.

Hostessing had and has no visa for women from western countries - why on earth did that not ring a very loud bell with Lucy and others? Sure I remember reading all the bullshit in guide books and through the media how western women could earn money by hostessing back in the 90s and early 2,000s but if anybody who went on a tourist visa to Japan to do that and didn't receive a 'hostess visa' didn't smell a rat, then that was ultimately down to them. Everybody except for a person who has a sub par IQ understands that in any country working on a tourist visa is a legal no no regardless of whether you get away with it or not.

Lindsay Hawker wasn't murdered by the Tokyo nightlife or red light districts. She was murdered at the apartment of a stranger who had asked her to tutor him privately. His apartment was not in a red light district. She didn't apply the normal thinking she would have in her home country that it may not be a good idea to go by herself to the home of a bloke she didn't know but who claimed he wanted her to teach him a language or some other academic subject.

The other unlucky foreigners who were murdered in red light districts in Tokyo could just as well have been murdered in other big cities all over the world - and not necessarily in red light districts. Just ask the families and friends of the Asian girls murdered in Brisbane, Australia, over the last couple of years. In both cases the sexual assault-murders (at least one of the poor girls was sexually assaulted) were crimes of opportunity committed by some scumbag wandering around at times when few people were around but those girls were unlucky enough to be on their way to an early morning job or whatever.

There are many other examples of other cities in Oz and all over the world that could be talked about. I have been around Osaka's most dangerous areas both during the day and at night and not once did I feel anything could end up being bad or fatal for me. In bad areas anywhere I am alert, I can identify where not to go, I am respectful to the locals, and I don't wander around looking like I have no idea what I am doing.
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Re: 46 things that surprise FG in Japan

Postby Coligny » Mon Jul 28, 2014 9:04 pm

While -certainly- factually correct... That sounds between "these murder don't count", "they bought their tickets they knew what they were getting into" and "could'have happened anywhere anyway"

Since the point of the post seemed to have been a warning on the fact that Tokyo is not My Little Pony Land... I'm not sure where this is going...

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36. Its red-light district is the least dangerous


With a quote so vague... you need to want it to be worked up...
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Re: 46 things that surprise FG in Japan

Postby matsuki » Tue Jul 29, 2014 11:04 am

or add "...but it's still a red light district"
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Re: 46 things that surprise FG in Japan

Postby Coligny » Tue Jul 29, 2014 12:27 pm

chokonen888 wrote:or add "...but it's still a red light district"


Do carrier flight deck at night count as red light district ? Because they are toats red...
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Re: 46 things that surprise FG in Japan

Postby matsuki » Tue Jul 29, 2014 1:50 pm

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Re: 46 things that surprise FG in Japan

Postby Samurai_Jerk » Mon Jun 01, 2015 2:23 pm

Amy Chavez has put together another Japan lists: Just when you thought you knew it all – 17 life-changing lessons learned in Japan

Overall it might be a bit too rosy but there's definitely some truth to most of it (Cue choko with his list of exceptions that prove the rule :rolleyes:)

However, I'm not sure about this one.

5. Including everyone in the group

In Japan, you always invite everyone concerned, even if you don’t like some of them. There’s no sharing your beers just among your own friends, or inviting only some of your co-workers out. There will be no awkward moments as some stay behind because they realize they haven’t been invited to the second party. All people present are included in photos too, without concern for whether someone is actually a relative, friend or even a part of the scene. Including everyone teaches us to accept all people and promotes tolerance for those who are different from us.


Office politics are just as nasty in Japan as anywhere else and the cool kids often exclude the "losers" when they socialize.

Also ...

12. To be less nationalistic


That comes with living abroad in general, doesn't it?
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Re: 46 things that surprise FG in Japan

Postby matsuki » Mon Jun 01, 2015 3:54 pm

Too rosey, definitely pointing out pluses but my guess is she hasn't been here long??

9. That sometimes government control is a really, really good thing


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Samurai_Jerk wrote:Cue choko with his list of exceptions that prove the rule :rolleyes:


Not really but...

People wait in long lines without complaint. There is no road rage. There are no raised voices, no sighs, no dirty looks or rolls of the eyes.


Relatively speaking, these situations seem to be handled much better (less entitlement) by shy Japanese than by people in many other countries (this truth you speak of) but I wouldn't go as far as she did and claim these assholes don't exist. There are just fewer of them.
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Re: 46 things that surprise FG in Japan

Postby kurogane » Mon Jun 01, 2015 4:10 pm

chokonen888 wrote:Too rosey, definitely pointing out pluses but my guess is she hasn't been here long??.


She's been in Japan since you were not quite wearing diapers yet. The problem is she's a brain dead retard that thinks rain is just liquid sunshine. Seriously, probably one of the least intelligent people ever to make it in Japan. Her observations and insights are so below vacuous she would have to get a brain transplant to crawl uphill to insipid.She makes Classic Ameridumb seem intellectual. It's a wonder she hasn't died from forgetting to breathe. American style Expat trophy wives adore her.
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Re: 46 things that surprise FG in Japan

Postby Samurai_Jerk » Mon Jun 01, 2015 4:30 pm

kurogane wrote:
chokonen888 wrote:Too rosey, definitely pointing out pluses but my guess is she hasn't been here long??.


She's been in Japan since you were not quite wearing diapers yet.


That's why I pointed out it was Amy Chavez. I guess choko hasn't been paying attention though not knowing who she is probably makes him a better person. She doesn't really belong in newbie reporters but the list might as well be written by one.
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Re: 46 things that surprise FG in Japan

Postby kurogane » Mon Jun 01, 2015 4:40 pm

She is truly a living fountain of vapid inanity.
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Re: 46 things that surprise FG in Japan

Postby Wage Slave » Mon Jun 01, 2015 4:44 pm

She's all that for sure. She, like so many foreign correspondents here, also seems to be a perma bubble dwelling newbie. Maybe I'm just jealous.
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Re: 46 things that surprise FG in Japan

Postby matsuki » Mon Jun 01, 2015 4:50 pm

http://openprivatelife.blogspot.jp/2012 ... aijin.html

I think I tried to read something she wrote once and I set out trying to invent mind bleach while avoiding her ever since.
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Re: 46 things that surprise FG in Japan

Postby kurogane » Mon Jun 01, 2015 5:18 pm

Yeah, she has been living there almost or as long as I have been going back and forth, so 1987 onwards. BTW, all my fully tolerable and feet on the ground Kyoto BeingAbroad type friends have said she is quite lovely in person. A touch syrupy sweet but not nearly the target of justifiable homicide one might imagine. But those articles, Choko, those articles.................... :wall:
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Re: 46 things that surprise FG in Japan

Postby matsuki » Mon Jun 01, 2015 5:23 pm

I think I was out of diapers at age 7 but I guess that's just some sort of childlike extreme naivete rather than the honeymoon, just got here phase.
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Re: 46 things that surprise FG in Japan

Postby kurogane » Mon Jun 01, 2015 5:37 pm

:biggrin2: Yes, yes. I was using poetic licence for comedic effect there. All I know is that she and I have criss crossed across 2 very different Japans. Mine is just as enjoyable, I think, but it isn't covered in treacle and extra sweetened Smarties.
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Re: 46 things that surprise FG in Japan

Postby matsuki » Mon Jun 01, 2015 5:56 pm

kurogane wrote::biggrin2: Yes, yes. I was using poetic licence for comedic effect there. All I know is that she and I have criss crossed across 2 very different Japans. Mine is just as enjoyable, I think, but it isn't covered in treacle and extra sweetened Smarties.


Usually there is a rational explanation for this kind of behavior...

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Re: 46 things that surprise FG in Japan

Postby Russell » Mon Jun 01, 2015 8:35 pm

And Debito likes her so much too...
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Re: 46 things that surprise FG in Japan

Postby kurogane » Tue Jun 02, 2015 6:43 am

If my Debito radar is still working I will assume he doesn't like her because she doesn't hate Japan enough. I don't even actively dislike her. I just find her commentary inane. But it's nice to know I enjoy some bad company. Good find, btw, Russell.
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Re: 46 things that surprise FG in Japan

Postby Russell » Tue Jun 02, 2015 6:47 am

kurogane wrote:If my Debito radar is still working I will assume he doesn't like her because she doesn't hate Japan enough. I don't even actively dislike her. I just find her commentary inane. But it's nice to know I enjoy some bad company. Good find, btw, Russell.

I remember he wanted to get her fired from the Japan Times a couple of years ago.

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Re: 46 things that surprise FG in Japan

Postby kurogane » Tue Jun 02, 2015 7:10 am

Wow. That's nasty. He really is a very nasty boy. I would bet her readership is far greater than his, which was probably part of the problem. As fluffy as her articles are they are a far sight better than his bitter bile. At least she likes the place for what it is.
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Re: 46 things that surprise FG in Japan

Postby Samurai_Jerk » Tue Jun 02, 2015 2:23 pm

kurogane wrote:Wow. That's nasty. He really is a very nasty boy. I would bet her readership is far greater than his, which was probably part of the problem. As fluffy as her articles are they are a far sight better than his bitter bile. At least she likes the place for what it is.


It's a tossup for me. As much as I hate the professional victims who claims she's being racist against her own kind when it's obviously she's attempting to be a humorist, being as consistently unfunny as she is might be the bigger crime.
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Re: 46 things that surprise FG in Japan

Postby matsuki » Tue Jun 02, 2015 4:00 pm

Is she some sort of religious nut? If she's not just simply pandering to what the kaigai peepz want to hear about Japan, nutty church lady would make sense.
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Re: 46 things that surprise FG in Japan

Postby kurogane » Tue Jun 02, 2015 5:30 pm

I think she's more of a cat lady. Her titter titter humour reminds me of that. But yeah, she panders to the trophy expat wives and BeingAbroad cat ladies that gaze in horror at the FGs that actually meet normal Japanese outside the confines of The Club or the office. I know at least 3 or 4 of that ilk that actually think of the Japanese as the servant class, and most seem to have very limited private social interaction with The Natives. Even allowing how much harder it is to be a woman in Japan it's rather striking how bubble bound they are. But like SJ said, it's not that Chavez is an Uncle Tom so much as that she's a fluff piece writer that grates. Fluff is supposed to be soft, not just inane.

I am curious though: has she written a lot of pieces that criticise other foreigners? It would certainly fit with her obvious delusion of being more In than any other FG. She has a house on one of those dinky islands off the Sea of Japan coast that seems to make her think that means something other than the fact that she's a dimwit with a nice country house.

I haven't finished an article by her in 10-15 years, and I used to have quite a remote country house fetish myself.
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Re: 46 things that surprise FG in Japan

Postby Samurai_Jerk » Thu Sep 10, 2015 12:21 pm

Another "shocking" list :roll:

4 Japanese laws that shock most foreigners Americans.

1. Foreigners must have their passport on them at all times
2. Certain over-the-counter medications that are legal in the US are illegal in Japan.
3. Smoking is allowed in most restaurants and bars, but not everywhere outdoors.
4. Drinking on the street is legal in Japan.
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Re: 46 things that surprise FG in Japan

Postby yanpa » Thu Sep 10, 2015 2:01 pm

Samurai_Jerk wrote:Another "shocking" list :roll:



4 Japanese laws that shock most foreigners Americans.

1. Foreigners must have their passport on them at all times.

Or zairyu kaado...
2. Certain over-the-counter medications that are legal in the US are illegal in Japan.

Do I detect an incorrect assumption that US-style pill-popping is a global norm?
3. Smoking is allowed in most restaurants and bars, but not everywhere outdoors.

This is admittedly a weird and somewhat annoying situation
4. Drinking on the street is legal in Japan.

Let me guess... it's not legal in the US?
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Re: 46 things that surprise FG in Japan

Postby Samurai_Jerk » Sat Feb 06, 2016 4:13 pm

17 essential Japanese "phrases" you should master explained by someone who hasn't mastered Japanese (or English for that matter) :roll:

2. Otsukaresama deshita (Oh-su-ka-ray-sa-ma day-she-ta)

This is a fantastic expression that we really don’t have a match for in English. It’s said to thank someone for their hard work after the completion of a task or as a farewell to one’s colleagues at the end of the work day. My JET friend Josh once said it was best translated as, “You’re a Rockstar!” and I think that captures the sentiment perfectly.


4. Onegaishimasu (Oh–neh–gah–eee–shee–mah–su)/Kudasai (Koo-da-sa-ee)

“Please”

Learn “please” in as many languages as you can. Japanese is so cool; it’s got one for formal (onegaishimasu) and informal situations (kudasai).


9. Kawai sou (Ka-why-so)

“Poor thing.” “Too bad.” “It’s a pity.”

A homophone of both cute (kawaii) and scary (kowai) and often a cause of confusion for new arrivals, this is a phrase for commenting on unfortunate incidents. It can be applied to anything from a slight mishap to a full-scale tragedy.
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Re: 46 things that surprise FG in Japan

Postby matsuki » Sat Feb 06, 2016 4:47 pm

I love how she sounds everything out in perfect katakoto form. Duuuuu yuuuuu naaa whaaa-i-um-seh-nnnn?
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Re: 46 things that surprise FG in Japan

Postby Coligny » Sat Feb 06, 2016 5:40 pm

kurogane wrote:The comments section frightened me. What is it with witless beginners that makes them need to sound like practiced pros?


...The spastic moment in their spastic life where they spastically think they have something intredasting to say... Instead of misunderstanding things from miles away they have the honor to be clueless on site and report live... like a level 1 hobby warzone reporter... without the war and really little reporting...

btw... fcuck... I always ass-umed that "kudasai" was more to ascertain a command... would explain a shitload aboot the behaviour of my cats...
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Re: 46 things that surprise FG in Japan

Postby kurogane » Sat Feb 06, 2016 6:01 pm

Well, kudasai is sort of a command, it's just a polite form; it means "give me", but without being condescending. Onegaishimasu means "Do Me the Favour of". So, Neko wo Kudasai would mean "Cat Sashimi, please", whereas Neko Onegaishimasu would be used more when wasn't sure about the ready supply of cat meat.
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Postby Coligny » Sat Feb 06, 2016 6:11 pm

Samurai_Jerk wrote:http://matadornetwork.com/


makes gawker media group feels like wikipedia...
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