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chokonen888 wrote:Are there any famous cases of people/companies getting fucked for PSE certification violations? Apparently, one of the new products I want to import will require this shit (contains a lith-ion battery which is already CE, RoHs, FCC, EMC, etc certified...but not PSE) The quote from the manufacturer to PSE certify it is pretty insane (though not sure if that's just marked up?) so I'm wondering how necessary it really is.
chokonen888 wrote:Coligny, how many of your RC toy batteries have any of this shit on them?
IparryU wrote:chokonen888 wrote:Coligny, how many of your RC toy batteries have any of this shit on them?
gonna take him a few hours to go through all that... race cars, helicopters, sex toys...
chokonen888 wrote:...and just to add, the manufacturer (Chinese, so of course I don't trust em) claims the PSE certification is not necessary to sell in Japan. These are somewhat custom batteries as they have a specific connector, output, etc. We pretty much have an exclusive on the product so not really competing with anyone directly though a big part of the reason I'm reluctant to sign off on this is the battery manufacture would basically gain PSE certification and be able to sell this model in Japan (undercut us?) or to competitors at my expense. If the PSE certification was only in my brand's name, I'd probably just suck it up and pay. The PSE website has a bunch of shit on 3rd party certification that I'm looking into: http://www.jet.or.jp/en/law/pse/ Just wondering if any of you have any experience here or have heard of anyone getting fucked for violating this requirement?
Coligny, how many of your RC toy batteries have any of this shit on them?
Russell wrote:Li ion batteries can be dangerous, so they need good quality control.
It totally makes sense that they require certification.
Sarutaro wrote:I believe battery-powered items do not need PSE marking, only things that connect to the mains. I'm importing an electric toothbrush powered by regular AA batteries and it doesn't need any certification concerning electrical safety.
(Shameless plug purely to prove the point above: http://blueillume.envoy.jp )
If included, a battery charger would have to have PSE certification, though.
Coligny wrote:The whole "allowance to check the production facilities" makes me wonder aboot the validity for import products...
Sarutaro wrote:I believe battery-powered items do not need PSE marking, only things that connect to the mains. I'm importing an electric toothbrush powered by regular AA batteries and it doesn't need any certification concerning electrical safety.
(Shameless plug purely to prove the point above: http://blueillume.envoy.jp )
If included, a battery charger would have to have PSE certification, though.
Russell wrote:Li ion batteries can be dangerous, so they need good quality control.
It totally makes sense that they require certification.
wagyl wrote:Ask the manufacturer to point to the part of the regulations which say that low powered chargers do not require certification.
wagyl wrote:I'm presuming that you have read this before starting this thread, but maybe that is a poor presumption.
http://www.japaneselawtranslation.go.jp ... m=04&re=02
Chapter 7 (Art. 57 ff) sets out fines, earlier chapters talk about restrictions on doing business after a punishment.
wagyl wrote:Just checked the Li ion battery on the laptop, and it has the fifth mark from the left and name of the company which assembled the laptop on it.
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