Hashimoto: no sex slaves please, we're Japanese

[Takechanpoo]

Depressing isn't it? And when confronted with logic and solid evidence? Well, that's what incontinent anger and shouting is for.

it cannot be an answer to my question. you just run, pussy.
or its equal to say that you confess you have not ever directly inspect those old whores testimonies

its a huge difference whether there was systematic kidnapping or not
it does NOT deserve to call "sex slave" if there is no systematic kidnapping by Imperial J-army.
its the reason why Japan side stick to it so much.

you gaijin dudes do need to understand stinky C and K fellows has a habit or tradition to exaggerate or fabricate things for dozens of times.
why the fuk do we japanese need to recognize and apologized for the exaggerated part or fabricated one? eh?
and their original purpose is not revealing the truth but just shutting Japan in politically.

I personally think J-government should apologize for the part that those whores were treated inhumanly as whores.
although they were hired by private companies( ironically most of the owners were korean japanese though) entrusted by Imperial J-gov,
Imperial J-gov had indirect responsibility to use that inhuman state brothels.
and then J-gov should insist that there are no definite evidences to indicate there were systematic kidnapping by Imperial J-army at the moment.

[Takechanpoo]

He's Japanese. You can't expect him to use logic and solid evidence in an argument.

so indicate the fact and explain logically about how Imperial J-army could carry out systematic kidnapping

Sjerk just always take sides with weak or poor looking fellows.
its the same with the other gaijin dudes.
they just make a judgement on superficial impression or just follow the "safe" side.
i wholeheartedly am tired of it.

you pathetic gaijin dudes, do think why you can make friends with only silly empty-headed women, not with knowledgeable guys in this country.
or why knowledgeable J-guys really dont like or dont wanna make friends with you gaijin dudes so much.

[Samurai_Jerk]

He's Japanese. You can't expect him to use logic and solid evidence in an argument.

so indicate the fact and explain logically about how Imperial J-army could carry out systematic kidnapping

Sjerk just always take sides with weak or poor looking fellows.
its the same with the other gaijin dudes.
they just make a judgement on superficial impression or just follow the "safe" side.
i wholeheartedly am tired of it.

you pathetic gaijin dudes, do think why you can make friends with only silly empty-headed women, not with knowledgeable guys in this country.
or why knowledgeable J-guys really dont like or dont wanna make friends with you gaijin dudes so much.

I don't know that I've ever given my opinion on the comfort women issue or not as it's not something I'm that interested in. I was talking about your inability to put together a decent argument. One guy's testimony being suspect doesn't mean that the entire incident is bullshit anymore than the problems with Iris Chang's book mean the Rape of Nanking didn't happen. You remind me of the German guy who once told my friend that the killing of six millions Jews during the Holocaust is very exaggerated as it was more like 2 million. As if that made it OK.

[IparryU]

you pathetic gaijin dudes, do think why you can make friends with only silly empty-headed women, not with knowledgeable guys in this country. or why knowledgeable J-guys really dont like or dont wanna make friends with you gaijin dudes so much.

Cause your knowledgeable guys cant fucking debate... you try to focus on one thing rather than the whole picture. That and it is usually about saving face, not solving something.

I do have some J-friends (guys) that have a good head on their shoulders, but they all don't like living/working in Japan due to the shitty business ethic, sempai system, and BS group mentality that "Japanese" have to follow.

I like how you try to stick up for something, but you need to look at the overall situation... everyone just wants this issue to end, but Japan is trying to save face the HARD way by denying it rather than saying sorry and moving in a positive direction.

[Takechanpoo]

I and other J-comrades dont think we are wrong about this issue.
so we wont change our stance and dont give a fuck however C and K dudes lower J reputation.

[Coligny]

I and other J-comrades dont think we are wrong about this issue.
so we wont change our stance and dont give a fuck however C and K dudes lower J reputation.

Takechan... we don't doubt that if you put a 100 kids with down syndrome in the same room there's gonna be a lot of hugging...

[Russell]

I and other J-comrades dont think we are wrong about this issue.
so we wont change our stance and dont give a fuck however C and K dudes lower J reputation.

There were also Dutch women that were forced to provide sex for Japanese soldiers.

They were no prostitutes, being imprisoned in Japanese camps in Indonesia.

[Samurai_Jerk]

I and other J-comrades dont think we are wrong about this issue.
so we wont change our stance and dont give a fuck however C and K dudes lower J reputation.

I the end you lost the war so you have eat whatever shit we give you.

[Takechanpoo]

I and other J-comrades dont think we are wrong about this issue.
so we wont change our stance and dont give a fuck however C and K dudes lower J reputation.

I the end you lost the war so you have eat whatever shit we give you.

口を閉じろ醜い白豚野郎
coward

[Coligny]

I and other J-comrades dont think we are wrong about this issue.
so we wont change our stance and dont give a fuck however C and K dudes lower J reputation.

I the end you lost the war so you have eat whatever shit we give you.

口を閉じろ醜い白豚野郎
coward

I can play too ?

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小さなディック敗者

(Where is the tard hugging smiley ?)

[IparryU]

U.S. experts blame both Japan, S Korea for tensions
By MATTHEW PENNINGTON

Sharp differences on historical issues that have strained relations between Japan and South Korea require Tokyo to face up to its abusive wartime past and for Seoul to be less preoccupied with it, U.S. experts and former officials say.

The divisions between the two main American allies in Asia, which play host to a total of 80,000 U.S. forces, have become a growing concern in Washington as it attempts to consolidate its system of alliances and deepen its engagement in the region.

South Korea’s ambassador to Washington, Ahn Ho-young told the Heritage Foundation think tank Tuesday that it would difficult for relations between the neighbors to improve unless Japan “fairly and honestly” recognizes its wrongdoings of the past, including its treatment of so-called “comfort women” — mostly Chinese and Korean sex slaves used by Japan’s military during World War II.

But U.S. experts addressing the same forum expressed frustration with the attitude of both South Korea and Japan given their common interests. They are both democracies, have strong economic ties and are both threatened by a nuclear North Korea.

“Washington has become frustrated with both our friends. With Japan for its tin-eared, ham-fisted diplomatic approach toward resolving historic issues, and with South Korea’s insistence on seeing every issue through the lens of history,” said Bruce Klingner, Heritage senior research fellow on Northeast Asia.

Evans Revere, a former senior State Department official, described the relationship as “often dysfunctional,” undermining U.S. efforts to forge regional cooperation.

South Korean perceptions that Japan lacks contrition for its militarist past have intensified since nationalist Prime Minister Shinzo Abe was elected to power in Japan a year-and-a-half ago.

Last December, Abe visited a shrine in Tokyo where convicted war Japanese criminals are among the 2.5 million honored. Last week, two Japanese Cabinet ministers also visited the Yasukuni shrine, prompting fresh criticism from South Korea.

South Korea is also suspicious about the Abe government’s moves to reinterpret Japan’s pacifist post-war constitution to allow Japanese troops a more active role in defensive military activities, including with the U.S. and other partners.

Dennis Blair, a former chief of the U.S. Pacific Command, supported the steps Japan was taking. “They should not be confused with a return to 1930s-style militarism. Japan of today is so far from that,” he said.

Victor Cha, who served as director for Asian affairs in the George W. Bush White House, said there’s no prospect of “closure” on historical issues between the two sides. He urged pragmatic cooperation, although he noted a growing sense of “Korea fatigue” in Japan over the criticism from Seoul.

Klingner said the evidence of atrocities by imperial Japan between 1910 and 1945 is “unequivocal and overwhelming and for anyone in Japan to question Tokyo’s responsibility really historically inaccurate and morally reprehensible.”

But he said South Korea should not allow “emotional nationalism to impede security policy.”

It should identify specific steps it wants Tokyo to take, rather than make “amorphous demands for sincerity,” he said.

http://www.japantoday.com/category/politics/view/u-s-experts-blame-both-japan-s-korea-for-tensions

Japan and S. Korea sorta remind me of two girlfriends that became dire enemies cause they got mad about something that they barely remember... finger pointing, back stabbing, and shit talking.

FFS, just bow it out and end it.

[Samurai_Jerk]

I and other J-comrades dont think we are wrong about this issue.
so we wont change our stance and dont give a fuck however C and K dudes lower J reputation.

I the end you lost the war so you have eat whatever shit we give you.

口を閉じろ醜い白豚野郎
coward

So solly.

[Samurai_Jerk]

WOMEN VOLUNTEER FOR SEXUAL JIHAD WITH ISLAMIC STATE

Records show that Australian, British, and Malaysian women travel to Iraq and Syria to participate in jihad al-nikah, or sexual jihad, for the Islamic State (ISIS) terrorists. They intend to become comfort women for the jihadists as the men continue to establish a Caliphate in Iraq and Syria.

[Russell]

Looks they cannot wait for the 70 virgins they are entitled to once they make it up there.

[Samurai_Jerk]

Looks they cannot wait for the 70 virgins they are entitled to once they make it up there.

[Takechanpoo]

Japan: Journalist David McNeill’s credibility is debunked

Irishman and journalist David McNeill is a board member at the Foreign Correspondents' Club Japan. He has written pro-communist anti-west propaganda for at least 14 years.

He claims to have interviewed 92 year-old Matsumoto Masayoshi on 16 October 2014. Seven days later, my team and I interviewed Mr. Matsumoto on 23 October. Mr. Matsumoto did not remember McNeill.

That Mr. Matsumoto did not remember McNeill is no surprise. He is 92. However, McNeill has used Mr. Matsumoto’s testimony of events more than 70 years ago as current gospel.

Specifically, Matsumoto spoke about Comfort Women, which women Matsumoto repeatedly called prostitutes. We have this on HD video/audio.

Matsumoto then widened this out indicating that in his mind – the mind of a retired Christian preacher – all prostitutes are sex-slaves.

Many people disagree with the idea that all prostitutes are sex slaves, especially so in Korea where prostitution was/is as normal as working in a restaurant. Prostitution in Korea and Japan was legal at the time, and seen as normal work.

https://www.facebook.com/MichaelYonFanPage

[TennoChinko]

Japan: Journalist David McNeill’s credibility is debunked

Irishman and journalist David McNeill is a board member at the Foreign Correspondents' Club Japan. He has written pro-communist anti-west propaganda for at least 14 years.

He claims to have interviewed 92 year-old Matsumoto Masayoshi on 16 October 2014. Seven days later, my team and I interviewed Mr. Matsumoto on 23 October. Mr. Matsumoto did not remember McNeill.

That Mr. Matsumoto did not remember McNeill is no surprise. He is 92. However, McNeill has used Mr. Matsumoto’s testimony of events more than 70 years ago as current gospel.

Specifically, Matsumoto spoke about Comfort Women, which women Matsumoto repeatedly called prostitutes. We have this on HD video/audio.

Matsumoto then widened this out indicating that in his mind – the mind of a retired Christian preacher – all prostitutes are sex-slaves.

Many people disagree with the idea that all prostitutes are sex slaves, especially so in Korea where prostitution was/is as normal as working in a restaurant. Prostitution in Korea and Japan was legal at the time, and seen as normal work.

https://www.facebook.com/MichaelYonFanPage

Links to interesting stuff...

[dimwit]

Irishman and journalist David McNeill is a board member at the Foreign Correspondents' Club Japan. He has written pro-communist anti-west propaganda for at least 14 years.

When an article starts like this, one might be given the impression that the writer has a wee bit of an agenda.

I am getting increasingly pissed off with all this sex slave denialist bullshit. The interesting thing is that to forward their agenda they seem employ the same techniques as David Irving -find one inaccuracy and therefore everything is wrong.

Let's play a little game of Occam's razor. Cases of sex slavery were reported by Chinese, Korean, Filipinos, Taiwanese, Timorese, Indonesians, Burma, Dutch, Austrailians and in pretty much every other country that the Japanese before and during WWII. Were they all lying, or are the Japan ultranationals who admittedly have an agenda of changing the masocistic view history doing so?

Next question. Were they slaves? The Japanese had no compunction about using POWs as slaves (and I am sure the revisionist are patiently waiting for the last POWs to kick the bucket before they pursue that one) so why would they have such moral issue with using sex slaves?

Next question. Was the miltary involved or did these sex slavery just happen spontanously every place the Japanese troops happen to be?

I think that in the beginning probably most of the confort women were prostitutes but as the war progressed and the demand increased because of the troops being dispersed across Asia and the Pacific that became impossible to use soully 'volunteers' and women needed to conned or enslaved to fulfill the quota.

Takechan. I suggest that you read about Jan Ruff O'Hearne if you have any doubts instead of listening to fascist bitches like Yoshiko Sakurai.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jan_Ruff-O%27Herne

[Takechanpoo]

of course,i and other "ultranationalist" japanese do know about the dutch woman.
that incident was carried out by 11 individuals. Imperial J-army headquarter made it close immediately after her father reported it to J-army.
it means it was NOT systematic by imperial J-army.

more detailed(japanese)
http://www010.upp.so-net.ne.jp/japancia/kinsi.html

[Cyka UchuuJin]

of course,i and other "ultranationalist" japanese do know about the dutch woman.
that incident was carried out by 11 individuals. Imperial J-army headquarter made it close immediately after her father reported it to J-army.
it means it was NOT systematic by imperial J-army.

more detailed(japanese)
http://www010.upp.so-net.ne.jp/japancia/kinsi.html

Whatever you say, lapis666. Great to see you here.

[Takechanpoo]

US government's 8 years of investigation found no evidence for enslavement of so-called comfort women by imperial J-army.
http://www.archives.gov/iwg/reports/jap ... 002-1.html
http://www.archives.gov/iwg/japanese-wa ... essays.pdf
http://www.archives.gov/iwg/japanese-wa ... uments.pdf

http://true-history2.jugem.jp/?eid=171

[Wage Slave]

Well I scanned the documents and yet again they say no such thing. There,s plenty about Dr iishi and unit 731. Plenty about the destruction of records but nothing that supports your claim. Perhaps either you or "true history" could enlighten me as to where this claim is supported?

[matsuki]

Well I scanned the documents and yet again they say no such thing. There,s plenty about Dr iishi and unit 731. Plenty about the destruction of records but nothing that supports your claim. Perhaps either you or "true history" could enlighten me as to where this claim is supported?

Well fucking asshole magazine guys call the dual manual dials on my temperature controllers a スイッチ and another idiot writer called them a サーモスタット....so by that logic, the forced sex slaves are obviously just ポルノガール　

(Hey Wags, you starting to see why I hate waseieigo fucked up translations and misinterpretations in katakana so much?)

[Yokohammer]

This is kinda sinister:

Apology for inappropriate expressions used in comfort women articles

Yomiuri and Japan News have officially apologised for using the term "sex slaves" rather than "comfort women."

Euphemisms make it all OK, you see ...

[Wage Slave]

I really don't know why Takenpoo linked those documents above. Reading through that litany of murder, massacres, torture, abduction, slave labour, human experimentation and other barbarity makes it very easy to believe the same people were perfectly capable of sex slavery. It was entirely in line with their beliefs and actions.

[Samurai_Jerk]

I really don't know why Takenpoo linked those documents above. Reading through that litany of murder, massacres, torture, abduction, slave labour, human experimentation and other barbarity makes it very easy to believe the same people were perfectly capable of sex slavery. It was entirely in line with their beliefs and actions.

The only thing that makes sense is he's actually a troll trying to make the Japanese look bad.

[Wage Slave]

I really don't know why Takenpoo linked those documents above. Reading through that litany of murder, massacres, torture, abduction, slave labour, human experimentation and other barbarity makes it very easy to believe the same people were perfectly capable of sex slavery. It was entirely in line with their beliefs and actions.

The only thing that makes sense is he's actually a troll trying to make the Japanese look bad.

Yes. That's exactly right.

[torasan]

I met an elderly man once sitting on a park bench on Ueno Park in
Tokyo, circa 1995, and i asked him as we chatted on an lovely spring
day just before Ohanami, if he had been in the war, he was that age,
and he said yes, in China, and then i asked, his English was pera
pera, if he had ever used the ianfu for his sexual needs and he said
yes telling me this story, as i recall:

"I was 21, 22, then and we
were all afraid we were going to die tomorrow or the next day, soon,
so of course, being men, we needed some relief, and yes, i went into
the comfort station and waited my turn and did the deed and it was
over like that, wham bam thank yu ma'am, she was my age too, not so
pretty, but that was not the thing, we just need to ejaculate inside a
woman to releive our stress. So yes Mr Bloom, I did go to those women,
it is not something i am proud of, i feel guilty, but you need to
understand in war, young men, the fear of dying, far from home, we
needed to get our rocks off that way and the ianfu served that
purpose. i felt sorry for them, and now late in life i feel guilty but
that was life then. it's hard for people outside our sitation to
understand."

THIS IS verbatrim recall and a true story. Now sure, some
women were Japanese prosititues, and some women from Taiwan and Korea
who worked as indentured sex workers, often unpaid, were not abducted
or kidnapped or forced, they were recruited by military pimps who told
the girls in Japan and Taiwan and Korea, -- and Taiwan and Korea were
at that time part of the J Empire, part of Japan, so those girls at
that time were in fact Japaense nationals.

and anyways, thiese
recruiters told the girls and their families that there were some good
jobs as waitresses at military soldier cares at the war front, just
sitting with men and chatting, drink coffee or a beer, no hanky panky,
and a nice salary and mom and dad agreed and the girls themselves said
cool let's go, we will be helping the war effort and just serving
drinks...and off they went, and when they arrived in China and Japan
and elesewhere to "work" as these "wei-an-fu" shops as they were
called in Chinese, same as ianfu kanji but pronounced wei an fu, they
had their papers confiscated and were told that the cafe had shut down
and now they had to work as sex service providers to help the men
ejaculate and they girls did their best to do their duty to serve the
motherland.

They did not comfort the men, that euphemism is shameful!
....but useful for Japaqnese consumtpion at that time and even today in denialist Japan. They did not ''comfort'' the men with tenderness and affection and kisses, they let the
men stick their dicks inside their vags and closed their eyes and felt
sick inside. What a fate. Man's fate. Women's fate. TRUTH

[Yokohammer]

I met an elderly man once sitting on a park bench on Ueno Park in
Tokyo, circa 1995, ...

Great story Torasan!

I'll trust your memory on that one ... sounds reasonable.

Thanks for the post.

[Salty]

I and other J-comrades dont think we are wrong about this issue.
so we wont change our stance and dont give a fuck however C and K dudes lower J reputation.

Outsiders cannot lower Japan`s reputation - only we Japanese can do that. A reputation is something that is observed/thought of from outside the group.