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Maybe There Aren't Plenty More Fish In The Sea

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Postby Screwed-down Hairdo » Tue Jun 14, 2011 7:46 am

Yokohammer wrote:Pretty hard to replicate in the confines of a fish farm.


Pump 'em full of hormones like the Americans do to their cattle...[color="White"](sorry xenomorph, just being cheeky!)[/color]
'Roid rage tuna...mmmm
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Postby Coligny » Tue Jun 14, 2011 10:03 am

Screwed-down Hairdo wrote:Pump 'em full of hormones like the Americans do to their cattle...(sorry xenomorph, just being cheeky!)
'Roid rage tuna...mmmm


How can fish suffer from hemorrhoids ?
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Postby Screwed-down Hairdo » Tue Jun 14, 2011 10:12 am

Coligny wrote:How can fish suffer from hemorrhoids ?


I'm sure piles of them do....
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Postby matsuki » Tue Jun 14, 2011 2:22 pm

[quote="Yokohammer"]I think it's because in the wild bluefin tuna cover large distances through varying currents and water temperatures at relatively high speeds –]

Farming may not be realistic but rearing a bazillion of them until they can be released back into the sea so they can muscle up and repopulate may be...
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Postby Yokohammer » Tue Jun 14, 2011 2:33 pm

chokonen888 wrote:Farming may not be realistic but rearing a bazillion of them until they can be released back into the sea so they can muscle up and repopulate may be...

Yeah, but that would require a sense of responsibility and long-term vision.
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Postby matsuki » Tue Jun 14, 2011 3:09 pm

Yokohammer wrote:Yeah, but that would require a sense of responsibility and long-term vision.


It's pretty obvious who the sekinin country would be...but at some point the robots will be forced to do something or watch their prized meat go extinct.
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In other Japanese accounting news...

Postby Mike Oxlong » Tue Oct 18, 2011 3:30 pm

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Postby matsuki » Wed Oct 19, 2011 1:22 pm

....and once again, nothing is done about it? Is this the new whale-wars in making?
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Postby Taro Toporific » Sun Oct 07, 2012 6:20 pm

List of endangered species omits tuna, eel
The Japan Times | Sunday, Oct. 7, 2012
GENEVA --
Signatory nations to the Washington Convention on the protection of endangered species are unlikely to discuss measures to regulate international trade in bluefin tuna and eel at their meeting in Bangkok next March.
A list of the species to be examined that was announced Friday the secretariat of the convention omitted both bluefin tuna and eel, easing fears in Japan, a major consumer of both, that greater regulation could send market prices surging and severely impact domestic businesses.
Fearing the introduction of stricter rules, Tokyo is demanding that trade in bluefin tuna and eel be addressed at fishery resources management organizations rather than under the Washington treaty, formally known as the Convention on International Trade in Endangered Species of Wild Fauna and Flora...
...While the proposal drew support from the United States and European countries, Japan, the world's largest consumer of tuna, teamed up with developing nations dependent on their fisheries industries to defeat it by a wide margin
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Postby matsuki » Sun Oct 07, 2012 6:49 pm

I like how the costco tuna actually has warnings on how you shouldn't eat the stuff too often....I wonder how great the demand would be if Japan had these warnings on all the tuna....

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Twenty years late, 85% too little.

Postby Taro Toporific » Mon Aug 19, 2013 12:12 am

Japan urges 15% cut in bluefin catches
The Japan Times | 2013/Aug/18
Japan has proposed that next year's catches of Pacific bluefin tuna 3 years old and under be reduced by at least 15 percent from the annual average logged from 2002 ...more...
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Postby Russell » Mon Aug 19, 2013 6:46 am

If Japan comes with it, then it is probably already too late.
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Postby Coligny » Mon Aug 19, 2013 8:54 am

Russell wrote:If Japan comes with it, then it is probably already too late.



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Postby matsuki » Mon Aug 19, 2013 11:05 am

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Postby Mike Oxlong » Sat Jun 28, 2014 12:20 am

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Postby Samurai_Jerk » Sat Nov 08, 2014 12:52 pm

http://news.yahoo.com/asias-appetite-sushi-putting-philippine-eels-peril-194645231.html

Japan and China are targeting the Philippines as a new source for their beloved but rapidly disappearing eels, according to an investigation by the wildlife trade network TRAFFIC and the Zoological Society of London.

Eels are big business in China and Japan, where they are eaten as part of traditional Asian medicine or as the delicacies known as unagi and kabayaki. The voracious appetite for eel—30,000 tons are consumed every year in Japan alone—has already put multiple species at risk. Last year Japan declared the Japanese eel endangered, a move followed this spring by the International Union for Conservation of Nature. That follows the 2010 declaration of the European eel as critically endangered because of overharvesting for the Japanese market.

The Philippines recognized in 2012 that its five species of native eels were probably next. Trade in Philippine eels was almost nonexistent before 2007. Minor levels of trade took place for the next few years, followed by an explosion of both exports and prices in 2011 and 2012. After that, the country put in place a rule that said only juvenile eels larger than 15 centimeters could be exported. The TRAFFIC investigation, however, found that eels of all sizes are being caught and exported, and that the trade has continued to increase.
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Postby Russell » Sat Nov 08, 2014 2:26 pm

From 1 year ago I stopped eating Unagidon to save the eels, even though I like it very much.

Wishing everybody did that...
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Postby matsuki » Sat Nov 08, 2014 8:31 pm

Russell wrote:From 1 year ago I stopped eating Unagidon to save the eels, even though I like it very much.

Wishing everybody did that...


I stopped about the same time (more because of the drop in quality though) but I think they're still going to be eaten into extinction. I just wonder if once they are extinct or near enough to it, the public here will stop being mindless consumers of it and decide the overindulging of it and other such fish may not be the best idea.
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Postby Samurai_Jerk » Sat Nov 08, 2014 11:42 pm

A Sushi Master’s Lament—and the One Fish You Should Always Avoid

When a famous chef speaks out to warn the dining public about the dire straits of the world’s fisheries, that’s hardly news. “Sustainable seafood” probably ranks just behind “wild-caught” as the descriptor of choice on the menu of your average haute eatery these days. But when that chef is the most renowned sushi master on the planet, people listen.

“I can’t imagine at all that sushi in the future will be made of the same materials we use today,” Jiro Ono said in an appearance this week. “I told my young men three years ago, sushi materials will totally change in five years. And now, such a trend is becoming a reality little by little.”
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Postby kurogane » Sat Nov 08, 2014 11:55 pm

I hate it when the writer can't even remember to explain his own headline. Am I to assume that it is bluefin I am not supposed to eat, and not because it is loaded with mercury but because it is in peril of extinction? That is as good a reason to chow down like a glutton as to avoid it, logically speaking, but I get the presumption of middle class conformity.

So, I went for some Kaiten Sooshi while I was down by the docks there today: not bad at all, for uncooked fish on rice, but I had a brief panic when it was explained to me that I had to log into the Skynet portal screen above my seat to order. Fortunately, being both clever and well trained I asked the young lady if I couldn't just grab plates off the tray the way her ancestors did, and she laughed and said Of Course. So, yeah, I did my bit to hasten a great Japanese awakening about the impending extinction of a favourite foodstuff, but that Skynet thing watching me the whole time sort of threw me off. Is that normal now?

Also, WTF is it with all this Wasabi Nuki shiite????? I kept having to ask specifically for With Wasabi. Is it just me or this fast becoming a nation of delicate, diaper wearing doilies?
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Postby Samurai_Jerk » Sun Nov 09, 2014 12:38 am

kurogane wrote:Also, WTF is it with all this Wasabi Nuki shiite????? I kept having to ask specifically for With Wasabi. Is it just me or this fast becoming a nation of delicate, diaper wearing doilies?


Didn't you hear the news?
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Postby wagyl » Sun Nov 09, 2014 11:18 am

kurogane wrote:that Skynet thing watching me the whole time sort of threw me off. Is that normal now?

Pretty much. Contemporary kaiten sushi etiquette is to turn your nose up at the items which have been round the track Goodness knows how many times, and order the exact same thing you see on the track on the touch screen so that it arrives at your table by shinkansen. It is worth overcoming your Luddite streak and doing it once, if only for the theatre.
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Postby kurogane » Sun Nov 09, 2014 5:03 pm

Samurai_Jerk wrote:Didn't you hear the news?


Akkkk. Initial hypothethith confirmed. Yikes. This Fear of Shigeki thing is getting downright creepy, as is the explosion of the male use of Fukai (不快). Anyways, after my initial caveman-like shock, I rather enjoyed the Gachapin Shinkansen direct delivery tray that came when I ordered some negitoro. Hilarious point by wagyl about this new school plebby sophistication. A friend in Kyoto once told me that a lot of special orders are actually just pulled back off the line and sent out as freshly made.

At any rate, and I think it was JAFO that agreed a while back, but yeah..........Sooshee. Woopdeedoo. Once in a blue moon is plenty. I do like a nice negitoro maki, though, so the news about bluefins is worrying. As is the mercury contained therewithin.
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Postby wagyl » Sun Nov 09, 2014 7:22 pm

Negitoro.... I suppose you have to maintain the North American build bodytype somehow or other.
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Postby kurogane » Sun Nov 09, 2014 10:08 pm

wagyl wrote:Negitoro.... I suppose you have to maintain the North American build bodytype somehow or other.


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I don't think my 3 a month will contribute to that end much. 8 Budweiser a day might, though. I mean, it's HOT down here. :rolleyes:
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Postby Samurai_Jerk » Mon Nov 10, 2014 12:19 pm

wagyl wrote:Negitoro.... I suppose you have to maintain the North American build bodytype somehow or other.


I don't get it. Why would negitoro be particularly fattening?
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Postby Wage Slave » Mon Nov 10, 2014 12:29 pm

Samurai_Jerk wrote:
wagyl wrote:Negitoro.... I suppose you have to maintain the North American build bodytype somehow or other.


I don't get it. Why would negitoro be particularly fattening?


I wondered that as well - Is the term being used for canned tuna and mayonnaise perhaps?
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Postby wagyl » Mon Nov 10, 2014 3:26 pm

Am I mistaken? Isn't toro the fatty part of the tuna?
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Postby Yokohammer » Mon Nov 10, 2014 3:36 pm

wagyl wrote:Am I mistaken? Isn't toro the fatty part of the tuna?

Sounds like a load of bull to me ... oh wait ... El Toro ... never mind ...
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Postby Samurai_Jerk » Mon Nov 10, 2014 5:52 pm

wagyl wrote:Am I mistaken? Isn't toro the fatty part of the tuna?


Haven't you heard? Fat no longer makes you fat. You should probably skip the white rice though.
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