Those Koreans got a lot of nerve

[Samurai_Jerk]

It looks like Korean Air's Heather Cho had to resign for being such a cunt. Daddy must be so proud.

I saw that story yesterday and couldn't help but chuckle...

She apparently (and seems like rightfully so) berated a first class head FA for not following/knowing proper procedure...and followed it up with the similar assery of using her sway as "princess of Korean Airlines" to have the pilot go against FAA regulations just to return to the gate and kick off the clueless FA. If the pilot/airline gets fined/penalized, I hope they sue the bitch.

Daddy aint going to sue lil princess... he'll just chalk it up as a loss and reduce her credit card limit

She may be facing criminal charges in South Korea.

As the pilot/airline would in the U.S....which is going to be hilarious exercise in cultural understanding.

I haven't heard anything about whether or not they're thinking about pursuing charges in the US yet. This might just be taken care of in Korea. I wonder what's going to happen to the flight attendant who served the nuts.

[matsuki]

I wonder what's going to happen to the flight attendant who served the nuts.

If she comes back to the U.S. and the local PD get ahold of her, I think we all know what will happen

[Samurai_Jerk]

I wonder what's going to happen to the flight attendant who served the nuts.

If she comes back to the U.S. and the local PD get ahold of her, I think we all know what will happen

Yeah, nothing. She's rich.

[Samurai_Jerk]

No Blacks Allowed

Sean Jones was on his way for a job interview last week in Seoul and received a disturbing text message that reads “Hey Sean. Sorry they just told me they actually want a white teacher.”

[...]

To add insult to injury, the 30-year-old American from Oklahoma experienced racial discrimination again two days after the incident.

This time he received a facebook message that reads, “I am sorry. I just found out today that my school is one of ones that won’t hire black people.”

[...]

An official of the an English language academy in Seoul, who was chiefly responsible for the discriminatory text message that Sean received on Nov. 10, claimed that her academy often has to eliminate certain candidates because their students are too young and scared of strange foreigners.

“Our students are as young as 4 years old and they even find it difficult to interact with Korean adults,” she said.

She, however, offered an apology to Sean, saying she should have given a chance to meet him for the interview and make a decision based on job applicants’ characters and qualifications, rather than based on their skin colors.

“We were desperate to fill a position and had already found someone by the time when Sean was asked for an interview by a recruiter,” she said.

“I suspect that there was some miscommunication between him and the recruiter.”

[Takechanpoo]

the same things has been done also in Japan by more gentle indirect way.
"if possible, blonde blue-eyed one is better!"

[wangta]

No Blacks Allowed

Sean Jones was on his way for a job interview last week in Seoul and received a disturbing text message that reads “Hey Sean. Sorry they just told me they actually want a white teacher.”

[...]

To add insult to injury, the 30-year-old American from Oklahoma experienced racial discrimination again two days after the incident.

This time he received a facebook message that reads, “I am sorry. I just found out today that my school is one of ones that won’t hire black people.”

[...]

An official of the an English language academy in Seoul, who was chiefly responsible for the discriminatory text message that Sean received on Nov. 10, claimed that her academy often has to eliminate certain candidates because their students are too young and scared of strange foreigners.

“Our students are as young as 4 years old and they even find it difficult to interact with Korean adults,” she said.

She, however, offered an apology to Sean, saying she should have given a chance to meet him for the interview and make a decision based on job applicants’ characters and qualifications, rather than based on their skin colors.

“We were desperate to fill a position and had already found someone by the time when Sean was asked for an interview by a recruiter,” she said.

“I suspect that there was some miscommunication between him and the recruiter.”

While I don't doubt the discriminatory ways of private language schools in Korea having worked in that country for a few years, as I posted previously there are plenty of racist sounding iiwake used to discourage foreigners for all sorts of reason.

'You're Irish - Irish people drink too much' could very well equal, 'We don't want that kind of accent/woman/age/female body and looks' etc etc.
'You're too old' could very well equal 'You're not THAT old but even so we want a dumb grad just out of college so they don't know we're ripping them off.'

In Sean's case the 'No blacks' could very well mean a few things - racially based and specific to black people or 'Oh no, it's a hot potato because enough whites insist on their 'rights' so how are we going to cope with a black person insisting and calling us racist in the process?

This bloke also broke one of the cardinal rules of being a foreigner working in Korea - don't get sick for more than a few days. He had a very serious medical condition at his previous teaching job that unfortunately made him seem aggressive and not in the frame of mind to deal with teaching duties or good relations with the often-difficult-under-normal- circumstances-to-get-along-with Koreans.

He ended up in hospital for around 2 months or more with that condition. There's no way a prospective employer would be optimistic with that baggage regardless of how western countries say you can't refuse to employ people because they were sick in their last job etc. And believe me, South Korea is incredibly strict about going beyond your visa conditions. Just the hint that you're looking for work on your tourist visa and K Immi find out, you get thrown out.

It seems from what is omitted in the story that he was on a tourist visa looking for work. Many K employers don't want to go there if you are doing that. There are big penalties for all this. Sean's case is no different from a white American I heard of when I was there. He too got very sick, was in hospital for a few months and presto, Koreans didn't want to employ him. It's understandable.

[Samurai_Jerk]

That reminds me when I was in Korea last year I was drinking at a bar in Cheonan where Jones was based when he got sick and there was a donation cup for his medical bills with a write up of his story attached. I'm glad to see he made it.

[wangta]

That reminds me when I was in Korea last year I was drinking at a bar in Cheonan where Jones was based when he got sick and there was a donation cup for his medical bills with a write up of his story attached. I'm glad to see he made it.

Yes the foreigners in Korea tend to rally around their own if they're English teachers. It's great you contributed. When I lived in Korea, there were more than a few appeals for help for English teachers who got into trouble/fell sick and were shocked by the huge medical bills. Although most K employers have health insurance and usually pension arrangements for native English teachers, they certainly don't pay any of it 99 percent of the time and of course like Japan the health insurance does not cover more than 70 percent or whatever it is. So falling ill seriously will clean you out if you haven't saved for a rainy day and could even if you have.

The case of the white bloke I mentioned was a bit different but a lot of us rallied around to help him. His name was Matt (Robinson I think) and he was a floater. Blew his money in Thailand, found his way to Korea and worked illegally for a lot of the time, was dumped by his employer at an English school (not sure if he worked illegally there) when he became ill. I can understand why some of the English teachers in my city didn't want to contribute but others of us did and we took the money up to Seoul where he was in hospital.

I think the problem some foreigners have in Korea with these situations is that those who get into trouble or fall ill seem to not bother to plan for themselves or will not spend some of that money they will spend within a second on drinking or socialising on getting more health insurance or whatever.

Matt pissed of some people because from what I had seen of him on my trips to Seoul when he was out and about before his illness, he was the kind of charming person who tends to utilise whatever is around or whoever is around. I thought he was a fairly nice bloke but I can see how people would have thought that they weren't going to spend their hard earned money on him. His story ended differently from Sean's. He went back home and was dead within a year from the condition that had made him sick in Korea. Something to do with cardiac malfunction if I am correct.

[Samurai_Jerk]

Sales of macadamias soar in Korea after nut rage

Nut rage imploded the career of a Korean Air Lines executive and embarrassed her family and country. Now South Korean retailers are experiencing the unexpected upside: a boom in sales of macadamias.

The flavorful macadamia nut was unfamiliar to many South Koreans until Cho Hyun-ah, the daughter of Korean Air's chairman, ordered a flight attendant off a Dec. 5 flight from New York City after she was served them in a bag, instead of on a plate.

[...]

Auction, a South Korean unit of eBay and South Korea's second-largest e-commerce website, said Monday that sales of macadamias surged nearly 12-fold during the previous five days without any promotions. It said macadamias previously made up 5 percent of its nut sales but were now accounting for almost half.

South Korea's largest online shopping retailer, Gmarket, also owned by eBay, said Macadamia nut sales jumped 20 times during the six days to Sunday compared with the previous week.

[wagyl]

I can think of someone with widespread boardmember experience, who is now at a loose end, who could be catapulted into the Macadamia Nut Marketing Board...

[Yokohammer]

I can't help wondering what all those people who bought macadamia nuts, who presumably don't normally buy macadamia nuts, are doing with them. D'ya suppose they're handing them in the packet to some friend or family member who then flies into a mock rage while everyone falls about in fits of laughter? I shudder to think about the entertainment potential.

[wagyl]

Haha I can foresee fun at Christmas this year, except that the macadamias come from the tree in the front garden, and as anyone who has experienced it will know, those bastards are lethal enough just trying to crack the things open.

[matsuki]

I can't help wondering what all those people who bought macadamia nuts, who presumably don't normally buy macadamia nuts, are doing with them. D'ya suppose they're handing them in the packet to some friend or family member who then flies into a mock rage while everyone falls about in fits of laughter? I shudder to think about the entertainment potential.

Remember where they were being served? That story probably made them like the Luis Vuitton bag of nuts in Korea...

[Samurai_Jerk]

S.Korea to punish Korean Air over 'nut rage' incident

South Korea says it will punish Korean Air with a flight ban or fines after the daughter of its chief executive delayed a flight with a tantrum over how some snacks were served, in a "nut rage" incident that caused a national uproar.

"We plan to impose a flight ban or a fine against Korean Air", the transportation ministry said in a statement.

The flight ban could last for up to a month on an unspecified route and the fine could be up to $2 million, it added.

The ministry will also "file formal complaints with the prosecution against Cho Hyun-Ah today" and ask them to open a criminal investigation, it said.

A ministry investigation found that 40-year-old Cho screamed and hurled abuses at a flight attendant and the chief purser during the incident on December 5, a breach of an aviation safety law.

The ministry also vowed to probe whether the firm's "corporate culture" -- criticised for being dominated by the whims of the owner family -- posed any safety risk to passengers.

The case has sparked a wave of public anger in South Korea.

[matsuki]

Is it just me or does the K-gov. seem like they just make up shit as they move along?

[Takechanpoo]

korean demand JPmorgan new york branch to remove the wall painting because it reminds of imperial japans past according to them

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http://news.naver.com/main/read.nhn?mod ... 0007305450

[kurogane]

Please tell me you made that up.

[Samurai_Jerk]

Please tell me you made that up.

Unless he works for Naver and has conspired with Google translate, he didn't make it up.

Here's what Google gave me:

イ·カンウォン特派員=米国ニューヨークブルックリンにあるJPモルガン·チェース銀行の支店の建物の壁に16日（現地時間）、日本の戦犯基連想させる壁画が登場して、ニューヨーク在住韓国人が反発している。

ニューヨーク韓国人父兄協議会はこの日が銀行の支店長、今後書簡を送り、ポイントの壁に描かれた絵は、反（反）人権の象徴である日本の戦犯基連想させる説明してすぐに、これを抹消するように要求した。

協議会は、書簡で「日本戦犯期、多くの人々の人権と尊厳を踏みにじった象徴のようだ」とし「この旗の下に、日本帝国主義の軍隊が10代の少女を拉致して従軍慰安婦にするの蛮行を犯した」と指摘した。

この壁画を誰がインストールしたかはまだ確認されていない。

Lee Kang Won the New York correspondent JP Morgan Chase bank branch located in Brooklyn, building a wall on the 16th (local time), a mural reminiscent of Japanese war criminals groups appeared to rebound and fired Koreans living in New York.

New York Korean PA sent a letter the next day, the manager spot painted on the wall of the bank half (反) describes an iconic Japanese war criminals re in reminded of human rights and demanded that it immediately eliminate.

Council, "Japanese war crimes and human rights groups like the millions of people with dignity and trampled symbol" in a letter he "is under the banner of Japanese imperialism army atrocities committed by the military comfort women samneun to kidnap a teenage girl," he said.

The mural is a sure who was not identified yet installed.

[wagyl]

Google still gives you shit, I see.

Anyway, that sunburst has 17 rays, not the regulation 16, so AOK with me.

[matsuki]

It's also yellow...is there any thing in any country besides worst korea that worst Koreans don't find offensive?

[Takechanpoo]

guys still dont believe it? eh?

another one in Pennsylvania Univ

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The windows in the Arts, Research and Culture House Cafe have pieces of stained glass embedded within them. One of these panels caught the attention of College sophomore Seunghun Lee while he was eating in Tortas Frontera one day.

He noticed in the glass an image of a rising sun, which historically has been represented on the flag of the Japanese military.

As an international student from Korea, Lee said, “I grew up in an environment where it’s been natural for me to find the flag really offensive.”
http://www.thedp.com/article/2014/03/arch-rising-sun

i give you guys George Kennan's words

The Koreans are mostly exaggerators or barefaced liars, by heredity
and by training, and it is impossible to accept without careful
verification, the statements which they make with regard to
Japanese misbehavior.

[matsuki]

guys still dont believe it? eh?

We're agreeing that those Koreans are a bunch of oversensitive, hysterical and rash pussies that find offense in everything. I'm sure some of them come to Japan and complain about the "offensive flags" everywhere.

[Russell]

S Korea balks as U.S. picks Japan, Australia to service F-35s in Asia

South Korea said on Thursday it will not send its F-35 fleet to Japan for heavy airframe maintenance, one of the two Asian hubs chosen by the United States to service the Lockheed Martin Corp stealth fighter.

Instead, it is likely to fly the jets to Australia for maintenance, about eight times further away than Japan and well beyond their operating range. The three nations, all key U.S. allies, are the only countries in the region to have ordered the F-35s.

The F-35 program has been lauded as an example of the United States and its allies working together to bolster inter-operability, but in Asia the maintenance plan is bringing traditional rivalry between Seoul and Tokyo to the fore.

The three-star air force general who runs the F-35 program for the United States, Chris Bogdan, told reporters on Wednesday that Japan would handle heavy maintenance for the jets in the northern Pacific from early 2018, with Australia to handle maintenance in the southern Pacific.

“There will never be a case where our fighter jets will be taken to Japan for maintenance,” said an official at South Korea’s arms procurement agency, the Defense Acquisition Program Administration.

“South Korea has the right to decide where to conduct maintenance for its F-35 jets, and it will decide whenever the need arises.”

The plan at the moment is for the 40 F-35s to be acquired by South Korea to be serviced in Australia, an Australian defense ministry source told Reuters on condition he wasn’t identified.

South Korea will receive the first of the stealth planes in 2018.

A source familiar with the F-35 program said South Korea could, at a later stage, negotiate with Washington on the possibility of handling the heavy maintenance of its own F-35 jets.

Such a deal would require a significant investment by Seoul, including specialized equipment used to test the jets’ stealth.

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[matsuki]

Korea should obviously just build their own jets....I mean everyone knows they invented stealth and jets anyway.

[Russell]

South Koreans Back Japan’s Peace Constitution as Nobel Prize-Worthy

Trying to catch up with Japan’s Nobel Prize count has long been something of an obsession in South Korea, but on Thursday a group of prominent Koreans started a signature-writing campaign to help Japan win another of the coveted prizes.

The move was not driven by a sudden welling up of warm feelings for Korea’s former colonial master. It was an attempt, instead, to keep Japan from any future aggression at a time when South Koreans are increasingly worried that Japan’s right-wing prime minister, Shinzo Abe, will create a more nationalistic Japan.

The South Koreans were offering support to a group of Japanese who campaigned to promote their Constitution’s Article 9, which renounces “war as a sovereign right,” as a nominee for the 2015 Nobel Peace Prize.

The group of South Koreans — about 50 dignitaries, including former prime ministers — hope that international recognition for Japan’s long-vaunted pacifism would forestall any efforts by Mr. Abe to water down the antiwar provisions in the Constitution.

Mr. Abe has long had ambitions of instituting changes that would allow Japan to begin to field a regular army, rather than self-defense forces with a more limited role, even though many Japanese oppose the effort.

The South Korean campaigners said Nobel recognition for Article 9 would send a powerful symbolic message against any drift away from pacifism.

South Koreans “wish Japan’s Peace Constitution to remain unchanged, containing as it does humankind’s aspiration, as the foundation for peace in East Asia and the world since the end of World War II,” they said in a statement released during a news conference in downtown Seoul.

The Japanese campaign for Article 9 started last year when Naomi Takasu, a Japanese woman, began an online campaign to collect signatures for a petition asking the Nobel Committee to consider Article 9 itself for the Peace Prize — an attempt, she said, to protect her children from war.

After the Nobel Committee told her that the prize could not be given to a “text,” she nominated those Japanese people who want to preserve Article 9.

In South Korea, those supporting Ms. Takasu’s quest will start collecting signatures at churches and temples, as well as through a website and Facebook and Twitter accounts, said Lee Bu-young, a former lawmaker who helped organize the campaign.

For the record, 22 Japanese or Japanese-born people have won the Nobel Prize, while Korea has only one Nobel laureate.

That is the former South Korean president Kim Dae-jung, who promoted reconciliation with North Korea and won the 2000 Nobel Peace Prize for his efforts.

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[kurogane]

I hate to agree with most anything most any Korean has to say about Japan, but that is a lovely sentiment and a healthy, potentially productive field of Jpn-Korean civil cooperation. Smart money says the Korean side manages to piss off even the Article 9 Japanese side, but hey, WTF.

I find it mind boggling how Abe-ites can see such a wonderful testament to the power of peace as a weakness, but it does identify why conservatives are such gutless whiners and should be beaten with wet pasgetti noodles.

[IparryU]

w00t!

http://www.japantoday.com/category/worl ... r-nut-rage

S Korean prosecutors to arrest ex-Korean Air exec over 'nut rage'

South Korean prosecutors are seeking to arrest the former executive at Korean Air Lines Co who forced a flight to return over a bag of macadamia nuts and a current executive for attempts to cover up the “nut rage” case.

Seoul Western Prosecutors’ Office said Wednesday that Cho Hyun-ah faces charges including inflight violence and changing a flight route. The current airline executive, a 57-year-old man surnamed Yeo, faces charges of pressuring airline employees to cover up the incident, according to an official at the prosecutors’ office who spoke on condition of anonymity because the person was not authorized to speak about the matter.

Cho, the daughter of the Korean Air chairman, earlier this month resigned as vice president at the airline and all roles from the airline’s affiliates as public outrage mounted over her behavior. She forced a Dec. 5 plane bound for South Korea from the United States to return to a gate and kicked off a flight attendant because the nuts were served in a bag, not on a plate.

Prosecutors launched a probe over the incident after a civic group filed a complaint against Cho. Last week, the transport ministry also reported Cho to prosecutors and said it will sanction Korean Air Lines for pressuring employees to lie during a government probe.

Chang Man-yong, a transport ministry official, said the ministry had asked prosecutors to investigate a transport ministry official suspected of leaking secrets about the ministry’s probe into Yeo, the 57-year-old Korean Air executive. The government official, surnamed Kim, worked at Korean Air for 15 years before getting a job at the transport ministry.

When as part of the ministry probe Kim questioned the crew member who had to leave the plane, Yeo, the executive facing the charge of trying to cover up the incident, sat next to the crew member, Chang said. South Korean media reported that prosecutors raided Kim’s house and office, but the prosecutors’ office declined to confirm the report.

Cho, 40, and her father apologized earlier this month, but a new furor has erupted over Korean Air’s attempt to foil government investigators. The public was also enraged because the transport ministry let a Korean Air executive to sit in during the questioning of the crew member and because a majority of the ministry investigators formerly worked at Korean Air, South Korea’s largest air carrier.

[kurogane]

Wow. That's utter insanity. Oh, wait,............Korea..........Koreans............Yup. Sounds about right.
SNAFU + FUBAR= pok te homneeyo (NFK)

Confession: I used to think Japanese were horribly bigoted towards Koreans.

[matsuki]

Well...to be fair, all the problems this shit is revealing...they exist in Japan, though to a lesser extent. Got to give SK credit for being "outraged" by it rather than shoganai and go about business as usual.

[kurogane]

Yes, but that's the point. Whatever faults the Japanese might have, at least they aren't at heart a bunch of pissy whiney emospastic Jerry Springer Show candidates.

All the SKs deserve credit for is putting one over on the rest of us. They're obnoxious Asia Trash (who else would embrace plastic F'in surgery as a Good Thing!!??) but you wouldn't believe how many people in Vancouver simply LURVvvvvvvvvvvvvv the Korean English student / WHV invasion, and not just because it's good for business, because it's only for good for that if you're........(enter ethnicity; you only get one guess).

OTOH, Korean-Cdns make good Cdns. Play some nice soccer, too.