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Taro Toporific wrote:Ariana has an inclination towards cooking and sports, volleyball being her favourite sport.
Russell wrote:Taro Toporific wrote:Ariana has an inclination towards cooking and sports, volleyball being her favourite sport.
Hmm, wondering what that means.
She sometimes likes to do some cooking and sports?
That seems hardly special at all.
Coligny wrote:Russell wrote:Taro Toporific wrote:Ariana has an inclination towards cooking and sports, volleyball being her favourite sport.
Hmm, wondering what that means.
She sometimes likes to do some cooking and sports?
That seems hardly special at all.
At least it's not "nail carving"...
The answer to the question that got Ariani to the crown goes like –
Q: Who is the most influential person in your life?
A: Mariah Carey. She has been through a lot of difficulties before becoming a popular singing sensation.
chokonen888 wrote:As much as I see this as a step in a positive direction, I can't help laughing at this:The answer to the question that got Ariani to the crown goes like –
Q: Who is the most influential person in your life?
A: Mariah Carey. She has been through a lot of difficulties before becoming a popular singing sensation.
Were the judges a panel of former gyaru?
Coligny wrote:Jennifer Lopez [...] didn't exactly grew up in Sarajevo during the siege of the city...
Samurai_Jerk wrote:Coligny wrote:Jennifer Lopez [...] didn't exactly grew up in Sarajevo during the siege of the city...
Worse. The South Bronx in the 70's and 80's.
Taro Toporific wrote:The Face of Japan Is Changing, But Some Aren't Ready
legion wrote:Taro Toporific wrote:The Face of Japan Is Changing, But Some Aren't Ready
How many times does she say "hafu" with emphasis in that video?
legion wrote:I spot the not so subtle hand of the Miss U Japan jimusho - this is not aimed at the pure children of yamato, it is aimed at the judges in the finals
legion wrote:They will lose to a trans-gender wombat
legion wrote:
How many times does she say "hafu" with emphasis in that video?
I spot the not so subtle hand of the Miss U Japan jimusho - this is not aimed at the pure children of yamato, it is aimed at the judges in the finals
kurogane wrote:Yeah, that was my first reaction. I don't think I want to watch that video, but if she's Embraced!! it herself she'll be a perfect Uncle Tomiko. In that sense it's all sort of sad, and her selection could be seen as silly because so gratuitous. Expecting Japan to push its non-existent ethnic diversity is at least silly and more often ethnocentric bluster worthy of few other than Debi.........to. Or, as Choko said, it's a step in the right direction but for totally different reasons than what I think he means: I think it might show that either these sordid displays are actually focussing more on talent than on simple ripeness or enough women are onto the meat auction schtick that rather mediocre girls like her are the best they can come up with.
Samurai_Jerk wrote:She looks a lot better in the video than in the photos...
kurogane wrote:Yes, she does. Perhaps that alone will help break down some old stereotypes. Anyways, she is a lovely youg woman with a brilliant smile but as SJ noted, hardly limp worthy beautiful in comparison to the competition.
Choko,
I knew what you meant. My point is that is our concern; our (actually, your ) Western fetish for statisticaly insignificant variations aside, they are monoethnic. Not to defend the buttheads whining about whether she is representative or not, which is just peevish anyways. She grew up in Japan, her mother's Japanese. Assuming she speaks normal Japanese, Nuff said. But this idea that it matters in any significant way is almost Debitoesque, other than the always nice idea of promoting acceptance, decency and grace regardless of looks or first impression.
It's probably too soon after that other Japanese chick won, but this could be a very clever Oscar Bait style routine, like all the cougar bait pity junkie movies that keep winning Academy Awards. I predict she makes the finals.
Coligny wrote:Samurai_Jerk wrote:Coligny wrote:Jennifer Lopez [...] didn't exactly grew up in Sarajevo during the siege of the city...
Worse. The South Bronx in the 70's and 80's.
Moar seriously. If you know of any book (the pictury kind) on urban decay in New York in the 70-80 I'm taker.
Same for Chicago Skyline (non decayed thought)
From what I saw of Chicago's buildings near the waterways some are massive and give this feeling on being giant with their own purpose with humans presence being just parasitic/symbiotic.
My middle school building was this way but on a miniature scale. The whole construction had so much character that humans were superfluous. There was nearly no guessing what was where from the outside and you never knew if a door would lead you to the outside, a corridor or a stairway to the bottom of the earth. remember one classroom with a 3/4 height door at the bottom of the room always locked. With nobody wanting to sit anywhere near it because of the weird draft/noise/echo coming from it...
The exact opposite of most japanese buildings that look not even sufficient to fullfill a purpose without falling appart. The layout can be read from outside and is ill fitting to its duty most of the time.
J.A.F.O wrote:
At the risk of sounding Debitoesque. I'm ok with their "junnihon" byline ... I don't like forcing anything on anyone, be it morals, diversity or even equality. Which is the vibe I'm getting from it, correctly or otherwise. This selection of the hafu seems political which kinda urks me as opposed to (let me spit out the words) "winning on her own merits". It's already a corporate circle jerk as it is so I'm not surprised to see this being injected to the game.
Wikipedia on Monoethnicity wrote: Monoethnicity is the existence of a single ethnic group in a given region. It is the opposite of polyethnicity.
The use of the concept of monoethnicity has been criticized for preventing diversity from being recognized. For example, it is a common belief in Japan that the entire country is monoethnic, but this is a myth; there are many ethnic minorities in Japan (e.g. Koreans, Ainus, and Ryukyuans). They represent around 1% of the whole population.
kurogane wrote:Here is a classic example of what I find annoying about this silly notion of an ethnically diverse Japan:Wikipedia on Monoethnicity wrote: Monoethnicity is the existence of a single ethnic group in a given region. It is the opposite of polyethnicity.
The use of the concept of monoethnicity has been criticized for preventing diversity from being recognized. For example, it is a common belief in Japan that the entire country is monoethnic, but this is a myth; there are many ethnic minorities in Japan (e.g. Koreans, Ainus, and Ryukyuans). They represent around 1% of the whole population.
Not "they represent only about 1% of the whole populaton", but rather the reverse emphasis "Around a WHOLE percentage point!!!!!!!"
kurogane wrote:J.A.F.O wrote:
At the risk of sounding Debitoesque. I'm ok with their "junnihon" byline ... I don't like forcing anything on anyone, be it morals, diversity or even equality. Which is the vibe I'm getting from it, correctly or otherwise. This selection of the hafu seems political which kinda urks me as opposed to (let me spit out the words) "winning on her own merits". It's already a corporate circle jerk as it is so I'm not surprised to see this being injected to the game.
I totally agree with what you said there. By Debitoesque I meant paying attention to and demanding recognition of an external value (ethnic diversity) that is not just alien but also irrelevant (at a systemic level). I also smell a ploy, and it smells like the runup to Tokyo 2020. Here comes Super Multicultural Japan: 2020 Redux
(FYI the Stanford Anthropologist Harumi Befu has been flogging that dead donkey since I was still an academic)
Here is a classic example of what I find annoying about this silly notion of an ethnically diverse Jpaan:Wikipedia on Monoethnicity wrote: Monoethnicity is the existence of a single ethnic group in a given region. It is the opposite of polyethnicity.
The use of the concept of monoethnicity has been criticized for preventing diversity from being recognized. For example, it is a common belief in Japan that the entire country is monoethnic, but this is a myth; there are many ethnic minorities in Japan (e.g. Koreans, Ainus, and Ryukyuans). They represent around 1% of the whole population.
Not "they represent only about 1% of the whole populaton", but rather the reverse emphasis "Around a WHOLE percentage point!!!!!!!"
You would have to be a rabidly dogmatic and especially untalented ethnic studies major to even start to think that is a significant proportion of an otherwise monobloc demographic. Or somebody called Debito. It's bad social science and as JAFO pointed out, presumptuous as all hell.
Russell wrote:
Now imagine that by 2020 the ethnic minorities in Japan increase in number to, say, 1.3% of the whole population. That will then be presented as "in the last 5 years our ethnic population increased by 30%"...
Samurai_Jerk wrote:
I've seen it taken even further in academia. I did a paper on Japanese-Brazilian return immigration in a Japanese Political Science class. I can't remember which book it was I came across in my research but there was a passage about the myth of Japanese homogeneity. And the authors weren't even talking about Ainus, Ryukyuans, Zainichi Koreans, etc. They were claiming that Japan was a country made up of different ethnic groups that were all convinced they were part of a single Yamato race through Meiji Era propaganda. In other words, the people of places like Satsuma, Edo, and Kyoto were all different ethnicities.
Samurai_Jerk wrote:
Anyway, I wouldn't be surprised if this was a PC ploy by Miss Yunibasu Japan Inc. to get another win for Nippon but I don't think we should be too hard on Ariana. Apparently it can be pretty tough growing up half in Japan and it's probably even tougher when you're not the kind of half that fits their wet dreams of what a half should look like (e.g. the Michibata sisters). I'm sure that could give you a complex.
kurogane wrote:Technically they're right, but not for the reasons they thought: as you know, the whole concept of Ethnicity is so nebulous it can mean race, group, culture, genetic heritage, or pretty much WTF the author wants it to depending on their working definition. In a Social or Cultural Anthropological sense the regional differences and variations (esp. linguistic) were so significant back then they probably would have qualified under a lot of definitions of ethnicity (but not Race), and the monoethnic discourse always was specifically a unifying discourse devised as and intended as an element of defence against Western Imperial encroachment. BUT, once the window for a definition of Japan as a broad national umbrella covering multiple regional ethnicities was closed it became pointless for everyone except grad students to question it.
Samurai_Jerk wrote:Coligny wrote:Samurai_Jerk wrote:Coligny wrote:Jennifer Lopez [...] didn't exactly grew up in Sarajevo during the siege of the city...
Worse. The South Bronx in the 70's and 80's.
Moar seriously. If you know of any book (the pictury kind) on urban decay in New York in the 70-80 I'm taker.
Same for Chicago Skyline (non decayed thought)
From what I saw of Chicago's buildings near the waterways some are massive and give this feeling on being giant with their own purpose with humans presence being just parasitic/symbiotic.
My middle school building was this way but on a miniature scale. The whole construction had so much character that humans were superfluous. There was nearly no guessing what was where from the outside and you never knew if a door would lead you to the outside, a corridor or a stairway to the bottom of the earth. remember one classroom with a 3/4 height door at the bottom of the room always locked. With nobody wanting to sit anywhere near it because of the weird draft/noise/echo coming from it...
The exact opposite of most japanese buildings that look not even sufficient to fullfill a purpose without falling appart. The layout can be read from outside and is ill fitting to its duty most of the time.
This might be a good place to start: http://www.amazon.com/American-Ruins-Ca ... 1580930565
Samurai_Jerk wrote:kurogane wrote:Technically they're right, but not for the reasons they thought: as you know, the whole concept of Ethnicity is so nebulous it can mean race, group, culture, genetic heritage, or pretty much WTF the author wants it to depending on their working definition. In a Social or Cultural Anthropological sense the regional differences and variations (esp. linguistic) were so significant back then they probably would have qualified under a lot of definitions of ethnicity (but not Race), and the monoethnic discourse always was specifically a unifying discourse devised as and intended as an element of defence against Western Imperial encroachment. BUT, once the window for a definition of Japan as a broad national umbrella covering multiple regional ethnicities was closed it became pointless for everyone except grad students to question it.
Exactly what I thought when I read it. I think there are more than 20 kinds of spoken Swiss German that aren't mutually intelligible. You could argue that makes each of those language groups a separate ethnicity within Switzerland.
I agree that trying the push the myth of multicultural Japan is bullshit and doesn't really do anything for anyone. However, the idea that you shouldn't ever force anything on anyone like JAFO suggested is equally bullshit. If you support the status quo and don't push equality for example, you're forcing those discriminated against to accept being second class citizens. If there isn't a strong native movement pushing for that equality though white knights from the outside aren't going to get very far.
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