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Re: Tohoku Earthquake, Tsunami and Nuclear Disaster!!!

Postby Mike Oxlong » Wed Mar 11, 2015 8:14 pm

via Shisaku Blog...

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Today is the fourth anniversary of the triple disaster of earthquake, tsunami and nuclear reactor meltdown in Japan's northeast. The television news broadcasts will be full to the brim with reports on commemorations and the current situation of the residents of Eastern Tohoku.

One reality the reports will not be able to avoid is the modest amount of rebuilding and resettlement completed. Few buildings have be restored in the devastated areas; even fewer businesses have been established. Over 200,000 persons remain displaced, scattered all over Japan or still huddling in tiny, cold temporary housing units.

The delay in or lack of revival (fukko) of the Tohoku despite the cubic kilometers of hot political aired spewed over it is not indicative of a lack of resolve or resources. The minor communities of the Tohoku seaboard were political clients and mendicants, surviving into the contemporary era not due to their ability to generate livelihoods for their inhabitants but due to their ability to attract subsidies and development funds from the nation's core areas. They were, for the most part, places that were not habitable save under severe government intervention.

Which means that Daniel Aldrich may have to provide a modification -- and not a very big one -- to his illuminating thesis on recovery from disaster. High levels of social capital in a community and social exchange in between local residents do seem to be of vital importance in speeding up recovery from disaster. However, for reconstruction to take place, the affected communities have to have had real socio-economic value for the nation in the first place.

Which the seaside communities of the Tohoku have not had for decades...and under any and all reasonable scenarios never will.

So if today you see or read a report condemning the lack of reconstruction as a sign of political failure, feel free to say, "No, the failure to reconstruct is not the political failure. The political failure was the continued existence of these towns and villages."

As a coda, if a public official or former public official comes on lamenting about the communities lost to the rain of radiation from the explosions of the Fukushima Daiichi nuclear power station, you can say, "Phooey! The reason why the nuclear power stations were even there" -- this is from another one of Aldrich's books - "was because those municipalities were NOT communities! Communities would have banded together and rejected the plants!"


Later - Please, please, please read the comments where I am excoriated for the above.
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Re: Tohoku Earthquake, Tsunami and Nuclear Disaster!!!

Postby Yokohammer » Wed Mar 11, 2015 8:23 pm

Mike Oxlong wrote:via Shisaku Blog...

Sometimes There Is No There There

...

That blog has no socio-economic value and should therefore be destroyed.
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Re: Tohoku Earthquake, Tsunami and Nuclear Disaster!!!

Postby Russell » Wed Mar 11, 2015 8:42 pm

One interesting comment on that blog is this.

I write from Iwate Prefecture, where I live part of the year and maintain a law office, and where a lot of my wife’s extended family lives in, per the author, towns of no socio-economic significance. This post demands comment, though it may fall on deaf ears.

It’s erroneous to lump all the prefectures together on the nuclear issue. The only damage to a nuclear plant was in Fukushima-ken. No plants were damaged in Miyagi-ken, and thousands died in communities that didn’t have plants or that long pre-existed them. For example, the town of Onagawa-machi, one of the most devastated settlements, was established in 1889. And the residents of towns in Iwate-ken did reject all nuclear plants: there are zero of them in the prefecture. So the many thousands of deaths there don’t have any relation to the nuclear issue, much less to government subsidies for nuclear plants.

Some deaths certainly could have been avoided if people hadn’t built within zones that had been inundated during past tsunami. One can see this clearly from driving through these towns and noting the locations of memorials to those who had perished in earlier tsunami. Nonetheless, the March 11 tsunami was of a so far once-per-millennium magnitude. Even building above previous inundation markers wouldn’t have avoided all the casualties of that day.

The post is also reductive about the reasons for lack of reconstruction. As I know from family and professional experience, the disbursement of reconstruction funds is in no small part due to the absurd criteria applied by Tokyo financial professionals seconded to run the reconstruction agencies. For example, one construction company on the Iwate coast that I’m acquainted with lost all its equipment — and its president — on 3/11. When it applied for funding, the agency staff grilled their attorney on why the company’s profits were lower in 2011 and 2012 than they had been in 2010. No money was forthcoming.

The most objectionable part of the post is the claim that the towns had no SOCIO-economic value for the nation. Only those resident in the capital or another metropolis who are ignorant of most of Japan would suggest that the merit of a community — its entitlement to exist — should be based on the size of its local GDP. But the post’s dismissive comment isn’t limited to economic criteria.

Speaking as someone who has traveled among Tohoku coastal communities both before and after the tsunami, these small communities are of social value to the nation for their local folkways and traditions at least (as well as for their aquaculture), even if those in the capital don’t appreciate them. The nation loses a great deal of social value when these small towns, in Iwate-ken or elsewhere, disappear — as dozens of them did, more or less all at once, on a scale several tens of times larger than the Biblical motions of the Red Sea.

Most of all, those towns had tremendous social value to the people who lived there and to their families. This post does great disrespect to the memory of those who perished, and insults the survivors with its sweeping generalizations.

Especially this one is kind of hard (and I dare to say somewhat typically Japanese):

For example, one construction company on the Iwate coast that I’m acquainted with lost all its equipment — and its president — on 3/11. When it applied for funding, the agency staff grilled their attorney on why the company’s profits were lower in 2011 and 2012 than they had been in 2010. No money was forthcoming.

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Re: Tohoku Earthquake, Tsunami and Nuclear Disaster!!!

Postby Coligny » Sat Mar 21, 2015 5:30 am

Nearly all fuel in Fukushima reactor has melted, says TEPCO


https://news.yahoo.com/nearly-fuel-fuku ... 28950.html

Reward offered to anyone providing clues leading to localisation of that fucking fuel. Send tips to dumbasfuck@tepco.jap
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Re: Tohoku Earthquake, Tsunami and Nuclear Disaster!!!

Postby Russell » Sat Mar 21, 2015 7:06 am

Coligny wrote:
Nearly all fuel in Fukushima reactor has melted, says TEPCO


https://news.yahoo.com/nearly-fuel-fuku ... 28950.html

Reward offered to anyone providing clues leading to localisation of that fucking fuel. Send tips to dumbasfuck@tepco.jap

Call it progress...

"While our previous analysis have already strongly suggested that fuel rods had melted down, the latest study provided further data that we like to regard as a progress in our effort to determine the exact locations of the debris," said a TEPCO spokesman.
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Re: Tohoku Earthquake, Tsunami and Nuclear Disaster!!!

Postby kurogane » Sat Mar 21, 2015 7:51 am

Yokohammer wrote:
Mike Oxlong wrote:via Shisaku Blog...

Sometimes There Is No There There

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That blog has no socio-economic value and should therefore be destroyed.


I have a strong sense of having read some of his mental diarrhoea a few times and always laughing derisively at his total and complete buttnutted analysis of anything outisde the inside of the Yamanote Line. Tokyo = Japan = permanewbie.

Since he lists his location as Tokyo Metropolitan District ......... doesn't that suggest he doesn't even live in real Tokyo, which suggests he should have some experience of quasi-rural life. I got that in Nerima ku FFS. The evil Star Trek villain blog pic isn't helping either.
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Re: Tohoku Earthquake, Tsunami and Nuclear Disaster!!!

Postby Yokohammer » Sat Mar 21, 2015 8:47 am

Coligny wrote:Reward offered to anyone providing clues leading to localisation of that fucking fuel. Send tips to dumbasfuck@tepco.jap

Perhaps I can help.

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Due to the well-documented effects of gravity, combined with the relatively high weight of nuclear fuel, it is probably somewhere directly below where you originally put it. There is also a clue in the word "meltdown."
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On a slightly more upbeat note, I was a little surprised to learn that all of the spent fuel that was in the #4 pool has already been moved to the more secure common pool(?). They managed that one without incident. Now that's progress.
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Re: Tohoku Earthquake, Tsunami and Nuclear Disaster!!!

Postby Coligny » Mon Mar 23, 2015 2:21 am

Meanwhile in Fukushima...

http://www.boredpanda.com/fukushima-rad ... matsumura/

Kitties are being fed...

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Re: Tohoku Earthquake, Tsunami and Nuclear Disaster!!!

Postby Coligny » Mon Mar 23, 2015 2:51 am

The guy's blog:

Ganbaru Fukushima

http://ganbarufukushima.blog.fc2.com
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Re: Tohoku Earthquake, Tsunami and Nuclear Disaster!!!

Postby Mike Oxlong » Mon Mar 23, 2015 9:43 am

Yokohammer wrote:On a slightly more upbeat note, I was a little surprised to learn that all of the spent fuel that was in the #4 pool has already been moved to the more secure common pool(?). They managed that one without incident. Now that's progress.

Although he's been tarred as a conspiracy blogger, the handy counter on the right-side menu bar kept visitors up-to-date with the spent fuel removal.

http://ex-skf.blogspot.jp/

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Re: Tohoku Earthquake, Tsunami and Nuclear Disaster!!!

Postby Coligny » Mon Mar 23, 2015 11:16 am

http://www.foxnews.com/world/2015/03/22 ... mi-threat/

Taking lessons straight from Pacific Rims... Afterall... It didn't work in the movie...

Wait...

Never mind...

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Re: Tohoku Earthquake, Tsunami and Nuclear Disaster!!!

Postby Mike Oxlong » Mon Mar 23, 2015 12:46 pm

Coligny wrote:http://www.foxnews.com/world/2015/03/22/japan-to-build-massive-sea-wall-to-combat-tsunami-threat/

Taking lessons straight from Pacific Rims... Afterall... It didn't work in the movie...

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Re: Tohoku Earthquake, Tsunami and Nuclear Disaster!!!

Postby matsuki » Mon Mar 23, 2015 3:57 pm

Coligny wrote:http://www.foxnews.com/world/2015/03/22/japan-to-build-massive-sea-wall-to-combat-tsunami-threat/

Taking lessons straight from Pacific Rims... Afterall... It didn't work in the movie...

Wait...

Never mind...

YOLOOOOOOO!!!! Yamato superior race, laws of physics and common sense don't apply to us...


Jeebus....when in doubt komaru, pour more concrete.... :wall:

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Re: Tohoku Earthquake, Tsunami and Nuclear Disaster!!!

Postby Samurai_Jerk » Mon Mar 23, 2015 4:39 pm

chokonen888 wrote:
Coligny wrote:http://www.foxnews.com/world/2015/03/22/japan-to-build-massive-sea-wall-to-combat-tsunami-threat/

Taking lessons straight from Pacific Rims... Afterall... It didn't work in the movie...

Wait...

Never mind...

YOLOOOOOOO!!!! Yamato superior race, laws of physics and common sense don't apply to us...


Jeebus....when in doubt komaru, pour more concrete.... :wall:

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Postby matsuki » Mon Mar 23, 2015 5:23 pm

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Re: Tohoku Earthquake, Tsunami and Nuclear Disaster!!!

Postby Coligny » Mon Mar 23, 2015 5:35 pm

They even managed to shovel "but it create jerbs" in the article...

You know what else create jerbs ?
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Postby Samurai_Jerk » Mon Mar 23, 2015 5:55 pm

Coligny wrote:They even managed to shovel "but it create jerbs" in the article...

You know what else create jerbs ?
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Re: Tohoku Earthquake, Tsunami and Nuclear Disaster!!!

Postby Russell » Mon Mar 23, 2015 8:31 pm

chokonen888 wrote:
Coligny wrote:http://www.foxnews.com/world/2015/03/22/japan-to-build-massive-sea-wall-to-combat-tsunami-threat/

Taking lessons straight from Pacific Rims... Afterall... It didn't work in the movie...

Wait...

Never mind...

YOLOOOOOOO!!!! Yamato superior race, laws of physics and common sense don't apply to us...


Jeebus....when in doubt komaru, pour more concrete.... :wall:


Did you read the news today?!?

Japan opts for massive, costly sea wall to fend off tsunamis

Four years after a towering tsunami ravaged much of Japan’s northeastern coast, efforts to fend off future disasters are focusing on a nearly 400-kilometer chain of cement sea walls, at places nearly five stories high.

Opponents of the 820 billion yen plan argue that the massive concrete barriers will damage marine ecology and scenery, hinder vital fisheries and actually do little to protect residents who are mostly supposed to relocate to higher ground. Those in favor say the sea walls are a necessary evil, and one that will provide some jobs, at least for a time.

In the northern fishing port of Osabe, Kazutoshi Musashi chafes at the 12.5-meter-high concrete barrier blocking his view of the sea.

“The reality is that it looks like the wall of a jail,” said Musashi, 46, who lived on the seaside before the tsunami struck Osabe and has moved inland since.

Pouring concrete for public works is a staple strategy for the ruling Liberal Democratic Party and its backers in big business and construction, and local officials tend to go along with such plans.

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I think they should relocate all houses along those 400 km to higher grounds and convert the lower areas into a giant natural park. That will for sure attract tourists.
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Re: Tohoku Earthquake, Tsunami and Nuclear Disaster!!!

Postby Coligny » Mon Mar 23, 2015 8:36 pm

Russell wrote:
chokonen888 wrote:
Coligny wrote:http://www.foxnews.com/world/2015/03/22/japan-to-build-massive-sea-wall-to-combat-tsunami-threat/

Taking lessons straight from Pacific Rims... Afterall... It didn't work in the movie...

Wait...

Never mind...

YOLOOOOOOO!!!! Yamato superior race, laws of physics and common sense don't apply to us...


Jeebus....when in doubt komaru, pour more concrete.... :wall:


Did you read the news today?!?

Japan opts for massive, costly sea wall to fend off tsunamis

Four years after a towering tsunami ravaged much of Japan’s northeastern coast, efforts to fend off future disasters are focusing on a nearly 400-kilometer chain of cement sea walls, at places nearly five stories high.

Opponents of the 820 billion yen plan argue that the massive concrete barriers will damage marine ecology and scenery, hinder vital fisheries and actually do little to protect residents who are mostly supposed to relocate to higher ground. Those in favor say the sea walls are a necessary evil, and one that will provide some jobs, at least for a time.

In the northern fishing port of Osabe, Kazutoshi Musashi chafes at the 12.5-meter-high concrete barrier blocking his view of the sea.

“The reality is that it looks like the wall of a jail,” said Musashi, 46, who lived on the seaside before the tsunami struck Osabe and has moved inland since.

Pouring concrete for public works is a staple strategy for the ruling Liberal Democratic Party and its backers in big business and construction, and local officials tend to go along with such plans.

More

I think they should relocate all houses along those 400 km to higher grounds and convert the lower areas into a giant natural park. That will for sure attract tourists.


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Postby matsuki » Mon Mar 23, 2015 9:26 pm

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Postby yanpa » Tue Mar 24, 2015 10:50 am

kurogane wrote:Since he lists his location as Tokyo Metropolitan District ......... doesn't that suggest he doesn't even live in real Tokyo, which suggests he should have some experience of quasi-rural life. I got that in Nerima ku FFS.


It's Nishi-Tokyo-Shi which is the real bumfuck inaka. :twisted:
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Postby kurogane » Tue Mar 24, 2015 10:55 am

Aaaah, gotcha. Is that the bit that sort of borders on or is nearer to Yamanashi and such? Never heard anything good about that area. But FTR, Nerima is still a dive...............even if it's not a total sewer.........except for the eats in Ekoda. And that Ramen shop there...Gen. Yum Yum.
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Postby yanpa » Tue Mar 24, 2015 11:02 am

You do realise you're dissing the location of Tentacle Towers, aka Chez Yanpa? :evil: I hope you're talking about the danchi-infested wastelands up north near the border with that freaky Saitama place.
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Postby kurogane » Tue Mar 24, 2015 11:46 am

yanpa wrote:You do realise you're dissing the location of Tentacle Towers, aka Chez Yanpa?


Oh feck ya. :biggrin2: I never explored the bits away from The Pond Bag except for the ward office and the cheap good sushi in Sakuradai and all the good cheap eats around Ekoda, but yeah, the real dregs I remember were any of those Danchi deserts right at the border. BTW, we're talking 1987 and I was fresh from the rather lovelier bits of Canada. I probably wouldn't be as harsh anymore. But feck me........whadda boring shiitehole that area was back then. Ekoda was the only major university campus station I have ever found without one decent bar.

BTW, judging by this the Sakuradai Sushi place is still there. :shock: And it looks like the same old guy.
http://tabelog.com/tokyo/A1321/A132101/13070899/

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Postby matsuki » Tue Mar 24, 2015 2:05 pm

yanpa wrote:You do realise you're dissing the location of Tentacle Towers, aka Chez Yanpa? :evil: I hope you're talking about the danchi-infested wastelands up north near the border with that freaky Saitama place.


LOL, I've given up on explaining West-Tokyo city is in western Tokyo..."near Kichijoji" gets all the ahhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhh's.
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Postby yanpa » Tue Mar 24, 2015 2:37 pm

chokonen888 wrote:
yanpa wrote:You do realise you're dissing the location of Tentacle Towers, aka Chez Yanpa? :evil: I hope you're talking about the danchi-infested wastelands up north near the border with that freaky Saitama place.


LOL, I've given up on explaining West-Tokyo city is in western Tokyo..."near Kichijoji" gets all the ahhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhh's.


In real estate advertising terms I'm almost in Kichijoji. Close enough to hear the Musashi-shi emergency broadcasting system.

Going back slightly on topic, it might not be the coolest area but it's nice solid flat well-drained very inland ground which was not previously a water feature and is less likely to slip, liquefy or conflagrate than most of the 23-ku.
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Postby matsuki » Tue Mar 24, 2015 2:47 pm

Numa numa numa yeah!!

But the wind....oh the wind gets quite nasty.
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Postby Yokohammer » Tue Mar 24, 2015 2:55 pm

yanpa wrote:Going back slightly on topic, it might not be the coolest area but it's nice solid flat well-drained very inland ground which was not previously a water feature and is less likely to slip, liquefy or conflagrate than most of the 23-ku.

Funny ... that's almost exactly what I said when I moved up here to Miyagi.

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Re: Tohoku Earthquake, Tsunami and Nuclear Disaster!!!

Postby Mike Oxlong » Wed Mar 25, 2015 3:41 pm

Auditors say billions of yen wasted in Fukushima cleanup
Japanese government auditors say the operator of the Fukushima Daiichi nuclear plant has wasted more than a third of the 190 billion yen in taxpayer money allocated for cleaning up the plant after it was destroyed by a March 2011 earthquake and tsunami.

A Board of Audit report describes various expensive machines and untested measures that ended in failure. It also says the cleanup work has been dominated by one group of Japanese utility, construction and electronics giants despite repeated calls for more transparency and greater access for international bidders.

Tokyo Electric Power Co spokesman Teruaki Kobayashi said all of the equipment contributed to stabilizing the plant, even though some operated only briefly.

Some of the failures cited in the report:

FRENCH IMPORT: Among the costliest failures was a 32 billion yen machine made by French nuclear giant Areva SA to remove radioactive cesium from water leaking from the three wrecked reactors. The trouble-plagued machine lasted just three months and treated only 77,000 tons of water, a tiny fraction of the volume leaking every day. It has since been replaced with Japanese and American machines.

SALT REMOVAL: Sea water was used early in the crisis to cool the reactors after the normal cooling systems failed. Machines costing 18.4 billion yen from several companies including Hitachi GE Nuclear Energy, Toshiba Corp and Areva were supposed to remove the salt from the contaminated water at the plant. One of the machines functioned only five days, and the longest lasted just six weeks.

SHODDY TANKS: TEPCO hurriedly built dozens of storage tanks for the contaminated water at a cost of 16 billion yen. The shoddy tanks, using rubber seals and assembled by unskilled workers, began leaking and some water seeped into the ground and then into the ocean. The tanks are now being replaced with more durable welded ones.

GIANT UNDERGROUND POOLS: A total of 2.1 billion yen was spent on seven huge underground pools built by Maeda Corp to store the contaminated water. They leaked within weeks, and the water had to be transferred to steel tanks.

UNFROZEN TRENCH: A 100 million yen project to contain highly contaminated water in a maintenance tunnel by freezing it failed because the water never completely froze. TEPCO subsidiary Tokyo Power Technology even threw in chunks of ice, but eventually had to pour in cement to seal the trench.

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