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Re: Dumbest Newbie Reporter Ever

Postby Yokohammer » Thu Jul 16, 2015 2:07 pm

wagyl wrote:
Yokohammer wrote: Similar with break-ins: the vast majority are "akisu" while the occupant is absent rather than the full-on home invasions you have in other countries

I'm pretty sure that this factor is as unique to Japan as the number of seasons.

Not quite sure I get what you're getting at. I think you're saying that what I said applies elsewhere too.

Let's say that 6 break-ins while the occupants are away and 4 violent home invasions occur on a street in the US.
In Japan that's more likely to be 10 break-ins while the occupants are away.

... is what I'm saying.

Must be losing my touch ... having trouble communicating ...
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Re: Dumbest Newbie Reporter Ever

Postby wagyl » Thu Jul 16, 2015 2:23 pm

I would dispute that perception: channelling my criminal mind for the moment, I would definitely choose the house with nobody in it, to be able to commit my crime at my leisure with less stress and less having to wash brain splatter off my balaclava.

The fact of the matter is that there are no separate statistics for whether the burgled house is occupied or not. It is not a separate crime. The figures are conjecture.

Edit:
.... having said there are no separate statistics, someone has gone through files because U.S. Department of Justice's Bureau of Justice Statistics has some data for US: of 3.7 million burglaries, 28% occurred while a member of the household was present. http://www.bjs.gov/content/pub/pdf/vdhb.pdf

Slightly less reliable statistics, I suppose (as there is no source cited), but for Japan
被害の多い割合は、「空き巣」>「居空き」>「忍び込み」で、
「空き巣」が最も多いようです。

しかし、在宅中、就寝中に侵入する「居空き」「忍び込み」も全体の4分の1以上もある

http://fanblogs.jp/booboo7x70/archive/73/0
Which is close enough to exactly the same thing.

Secom are trying to sell me a service, but they claim they are using metropolitan police figures to say 30% occur while there is an occupant in the house. http://www.secom.co.jp/anshinnavi/bouha ... aku12.html
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Re: Dumbest Newbie Reporter Ever

Postby Yokohammer » Thu Jul 16, 2015 2:35 pm

wagyl wrote:I would dispute that perception: channelling my criminal mind for the moment, I would definitely choose the house with nobody in it, to be able to commit my crime at my leisure with less stress and less having to wash brain splatter off my balaclava.

The fact of the matter is that there are no separate statistics for whether the burgled house is occupied or not. It is not a separate crime. The figures are conjecture.

I dispute your dispute.

Muggings on the street, for example? The perp figures he's armed and can get away with it. That doesn't happen much in Japan, does it? Of course guns make a difference, but that's not the point. Same with armed home invasions. I'm not sure about the US, but armed home invasions are a little too common in Oz, for example, and in the UK too, I believe. Actually, come to think of it I do know a little about armed invasions in the US, because when I was a boarder at a certain college in Boston at least two of them occurred the first year I was there.

There's just no way that the ratio of violent home invasions to unoccupied break-ins is higher in Japan. Not a chance. In fact, I'm so confident of that perception that I can't even understand why it's an issue.

But feel free to do the numbers and get back to me if you like.

EDIT: You edited your post. A "shinobikomi" is not the same thing as a violent home invasion. The whole point of the former is to avoid detection. The point of the latter is to confront the occupants and get them to give you the cash.
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Re: Dumbest Newbie Reporter Ever

Postby matsuki » Thu Jul 16, 2015 2:40 pm

Have there been many Yak home invasion robberies with the occupants inside? Conjecture it may be, but I would feel pretty confident at saying you're more likely to get that type of break-in in other countries than in Japan.

The sagi crimes units here also seem to be dealing with unprecedented numbers of cases though I think that may have to do with the lack of security procedures and such in place and the massive aging 何でも苦手 population.
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Re: Dumbest Newbie Reporter Ever

Postby wagyl » Thu Jul 16, 2015 2:50 pm

Ahh, I see. We were talking about different things. I interpreted the difference between
Yokohammer wrote: "akisu" while the occupant is absent rather than the full-on home invasions

as whether the there was somebody home or not. You were thinking of it in terms of whether the criminal had a weapon or not. We in fact have three different crimes.

My criminal mind still wants to avoid the invasion. Have you ever tried getting those brain splats out of your favourite woollen headgear?

I am not sure if we will be able to find stats on this one.

I was the victim of an akisu break in. The criminal took my kitchen knife into the living room just in case I came home. I wonder what category that falls into.

By the way, those US stats linked above might help you with your perceptions of the real level of crime in the US. Of all break ins, whether occupied or unoccupied at the time, only 7.2% involved violent crime. And 65% of those violent crimes, the perpetrator was not a stranger to the victim. So, in the US, maybe one burglary in 40 involves a violent stranger threatening to do you some harm.

As far as Japanese statistics go, the entry during daylight hours while occupied 居空き rate is 5.7%, but that includes both the inadvertent entry while occupied as well as the intentional.
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Re: Dumbest Newbie Reporter Ever

Postby Samurai_Jerk » Thu Jul 16, 2015 2:56 pm

matsuki wrote:Fair enough...but wouldn't you say that "doing business with their own kind" mentality is stronger here than elsewhere?


I don't know. I haven't done much business outside of Japan and the US and most of my experience is in Japan. I think people in Japan are more explicit about it but I've definitely seen it in the US. Why do you see Jesus fish on a lot of businesses in some parts of the country? It's so other good Christians know they're dealing with a believer. One of the reasons Bernie Madoff was able to rip off so many otherwise intelligent rich Jews is they trusted him because he was one of them. I've heard from a few people who've lived in Salt Lake City that being a Mormon there is very good for your career.
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Re: Dumbest Newbie Reporter Ever

Postby matsuki » Thu Jul 16, 2015 3:12 pm

Samurai_Jerk wrote:
matsuki wrote:Fair enough...but wouldn't you say that "doing business with their own kind" mentality is stronger here than elsewhere?


I don't know. I haven't done much business outside of Japan and the US and most of my experience is in Japan. I think people in Japan are more explicit about it but I've definitely seen it in the US. Why do you see Jesus fish on a lot of businesses in some parts of the country? It's so other good Christians know they're dealing with a believer. One of the reasons Bernie Madoff was able to rip off so many otherwise intelligent rich Jews is they trusted him because he was one of them. I've heard from a few people who've lived in Salt Lake City that being a Mormon there is very good for your career.


So you're equating being "We Japanese" with being a member of a cult? (I agree)
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Re: Dumbest Newbie Reporter Ever

Postby Wage Slave » Thu Jul 16, 2015 3:18 pm

One thing that is different is the underlying driver of most cons. In the UK most cons are driven by greed - do what I ask and you will get something for nothing. Here, most are driven by fear. Do what I ask or you will have something nasty happen to you or yours.

My SiL got a postcard from some scammer that was out and out blackmail. I represent someone with a legal case against you. If you don't send x Yen to this bank account within 7 days the court case will proceed and you will suffer far worse damages. She didn't pay of course but neither did she regard it as attempted blackmail that should be reported to the police. As far as she was concerned it was the equivalent of our Nigerian friends just trying it on - a fact of life.
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Re: Dumbest Newbie Reporter Ever

Postby Samurai_Jerk » Thu Jul 16, 2015 3:23 pm

matsuki wrote:
Samurai_Jerk wrote:
matsuki wrote:Fair enough...but wouldn't you say that "doing business with their own kind" mentality is stronger here than elsewhere?


I don't know. I haven't done much business outside of Japan and the US and most of my experience is in Japan. I think people in Japan are more explicit about it but I've definitely seen it in the US. Why do you see Jesus fish on a lot of businesses in some parts of the country? It's so other good Christians know they're dealing with a believer. One of the reasons Bernie Madoff was able to rip off so many otherwise intelligent rich Jews is they trusted him because he was one of them. I've heard from a few people who've lived in Salt Lake City that being a Mormon there is very good for your career.


So you're equating being "We Japanese" with being a member of a cult? (I agree)


I knew you'd try to spin it that way. I'm just giving some examples. It could be a university alumni association, a fraternity, an ethnic-based social group, Sons of Confederate Veterans, whatever.
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Re: Dumbest Newbie Reporter Ever

Postby kurogane » Thu Jul 16, 2015 3:48 pm

Wage Slave wrote:One thing that is different is the underlying driver of most cons. In the UK most cons are driven by greed - do what I ask and you will get something for nothing. Here, most are driven by fear. Do what I ask or you will have something nasty happen to you or yours.

My SiL got a postcard from some scammer that was out and out blackmail. I represent someone with a legal case against you. If you don't send x Yen to this bank account within 7 days the court case will proceed and you will suffer far worse damages. She didn't pay of course but neither did she regard it as attempted blackmail that should be reported to the police. As far as she was concerned it was the equivalent of our Nigerian friends just trying it on - a fact of life.


Years ago (late 90s or 200?-???ish) I used to occasionally get those weird Don't Answer It! scam calls, the ones where if you answered it they would then bill you an outrageous amount for the pleasure of them phoning you. An occasional drinking buddy that worked as a detective sergeant, WTF that is, told me that what they were doing wasn't technically illegal, I was sort of almost legally liable for the charges and that there were no viable avenues of criminal complaint available. I still don't believe him but my solution was infinitely easier and only my really scaredy cat friends ever suggested I pay the fuckers, and then that whole scam went away and I never heard from them again. Looking back, that was kinda fun. I wonder how that greasy little curb monkey's doing................

BTW, violent home invasion might be exaggerated by the media in NA or Australia like YokoH said but there is NO WAY Japanese rates of violent Man On Man crime approach Anglo world levels. Even muggings seem to be these weird negotiated begging rituals.
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Re: Dumbest Newbie Reporter Ever

Postby matsuki » Thu Jul 16, 2015 4:00 pm

Samurai_Jerk wrote:
matsuki wrote:
Samurai_Jerk wrote:
matsuki wrote:Fair enough...but wouldn't you say that "doing business with their own kind" mentality is stronger here than elsewhere?


I don't know. I haven't done much business outside of Japan and the US and most of my experience is in Japan. I think people in Japan are more explicit about it but I've definitely seen it in the US. Why do you see Jesus fish on a lot of businesses in some parts of the country? It's so other good Christians know they're dealing with a believer. One of the reasons Bernie Madoff was able to rip off so many otherwise intelligent rich Jews is they trusted him because he was one of them. I've heard from a few people who've lived in Salt Lake City that being a Mormon there is very good for your career.


So you're equating being "We Japanese" with being a member of a cult? (I agree)


I knew you'd try to spin it that way. I'm just giving some examples. It could be a university alumni association, a fraternity, an ethnic-based social group, Sons of Confederate Veterans, whatever.


Made in Japan, Made in the USA are also examples of throwing in some "keep it in the group" bias when making business decisions. No doubt that goes on and while maybe it's a small distinction, what I was originally getting at is the mentality that "gaijin can't be trusted" and Japanese can simply "because Japanese." I was basically being told "I wasn't sure I could trust you until I found that you were working with another dude...who, while I don't know anything about him, gives you instant trustworthiness and legitimacy because Japanese."
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Re: Dumbest Newbie Reporter Ever

Postby Mike Oxlong » Thu Jul 16, 2015 4:28 pm

A local Aussie translator told me something similar (a legit one, not the American proofreader). He said to get new clients he generally has to be vouched for by a Japanese. If the local confirms to the client that the Aussie in question is good, then he gets more work. Without that, he claims difficulty in getting more work. He's been at it for quite a while, and from what he says, the experience factor doesn't carry nearly as much weight as having a Japanese person vouch for the accuracy of his translations into English. I wonder if a translator who was not particularly skilled, but extremely personable could have a distinct advantage over one far better at the work, but rather more reserved in personality...
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Re: Dumbest Newbie Reporter Ever

Postby Samurai_Jerk » Thu Jul 16, 2015 4:43 pm

kurogane wrote:BTW, violent home invasion might be exaggerated by the media in NA or Australia like YokoH said but there is NO WAY Japanese rates of violent Man On Man crime approach Anglo world levels. Even muggings seem to be these weird negotiated begging rituals.


That reminds me that I read somewhere that one of the factors that's contributed to the steady decline in violent crime in the US is technology. Basically it's safer and easier - not to mention WAY more profitable - to steal and scam on the Internet than to stick people up. Of course that just applies to professional stick-up kids. Not the junkies who do it on whim to get their next fix.
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Re: Dumbest Newbie Reporter Ever

Postby Yokohammer » Thu Jul 16, 2015 4:47 pm

Mike Oxlong wrote:A local Aussie translator told me something similar (a legit one, not the American proofreader). He said to get new clients he generally has to be vouched for by a Japanese. If the local confirms to the client that the Aussie in question is good, then he gets more work. Without that, he claims difficulty in getting more work. He's been at it for quite a while, and from what he says, the experience factor doesn't carry nearly as much weight as having a Japanese person vouch for the accuracy of his translations into English. I wonder if a translator who was not particularly skilled, but extremely personable could have a distinct advantage over one far better at the work, but rather more reserved in personality...

I wonder how much of this is just the general Japanese preference for having an introduction, as opposed to insisting that a Japanese be involved. Obviously most introductions around these parts are going to be via a native. I have been asked for introductions to suitable gaijin in the past. Obviously I'm not Japanese, so I kinda suspect it's more that they just want an introduction from someone they trust.
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Re: Dumbest Newbie Reporter Ever

Postby Samurai_Jerk » Thu Jul 16, 2015 4:49 pm

Yokohammer wrote:
Mike Oxlong wrote:A local Aussie translator told me something similar (a legit one, not the American proofreader). He said to get new clients he generally has to be vouched for by a Japanese. If the local confirms to the client that the Aussie in question is good, then he gets more work. Without that, he claims difficulty in getting more work. He's been at it for quite a while, and from what he says, the experience factor doesn't carry nearly as much weight as having a Japanese person vouch for the accuracy of his translations into English. I wonder if a translator who was not particularly skilled, but extremely personable could have a distinct advantage over one far better at the work, but rather more reserved in personality...

I wonder how much of this is just the general Japanese preference for having an introduction, as opposed to insisting that a Japanese be involved. Obviously most introductions around these parts are going to be via a native. I have been asked for introductions to suitable gaijin in the past. Obviously I'm not Japanese, so I kinda suspect it's more that they want an introduction from someone they trust.


Exactly.
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Re: Dumbest Newbie Reporter Ever

Postby matsuki » Thu Jul 16, 2015 5:09 pm

Samurai_Jerk wrote:
Yokohammer wrote:
Mike Oxlong wrote:A local Aussie translator told me something similar (a legit one, not the American proofreader). He said to get new clients he generally has to be vouched for by a Japanese. If the local confirms to the client that the Aussie in question is good, then he gets more work. Without that, he claims difficulty in getting more work. He's been at it for quite a while, and from what he says, the experience factor doesn't carry nearly as much weight as having a Japanese person vouch for the accuracy of his translations into English. I wonder if a translator who was not particularly skilled, but extremely personable could have a distinct advantage over one far better at the work, but rather more reserved in personality...

I wonder how much of this is just the general Japanese preference for having an introduction, as opposed to insisting that a Japanese be involved. Obviously most introductions around these parts are going to be via a native. I have been asked for introductions to suitable gaijin in the past. Obviously I'm not Japanese, so I kinda suspect it's more that they want an introduction from someone they trust.


Exactly.


That's a whole other factor and I definitely use my 顔が広い customers to introduce me to new customers.....but what I'm talking here about is basically shop owners finding my website, realizing it's "made in the US" and having an interest in placing an order...just straight up worried if the parts will show up because they're dealing with gaijin. (and I've heard the explanations about getting burned by other gaijin or knowing someone who was) The minute I introduce or mention the J-d00d I work with, suddenly there is instant 信用 when they could simply look at all the drivers I sponsor and shops I already work with and realize if I wasn't trustworthy, none of them would want to associate with me or the brand.
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Re: Dumbest Newbie Reporter Ever

Postby Russell » Thu Jul 16, 2015 6:26 pm

Back to umbrellas.

I'm late to the party, I admit, but I had never had my umbrella stolen.

Then again, I had never had any of my other belongings stolen either...

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Re: Your daily whip

Postby Coligny » Thu Jul 16, 2015 6:39 pm

Yokohammer wrote:EDIT: You edited your post. A "shinobikomi" is not the same thing as a violent home invasion. The whole point of the former is to avoid detection. The point of the latter is to confront the occupants and get them to give you the cash.


That's nuthing... Just wait until he reaches for bananas...
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Not my daily whip, that's for sure

Postby wagyl » Thu Jul 16, 2015 7:01 pm

Coligny wrote:
Yokohammer wrote:EDIT: You edited your post. A "shinobikomi" is not the same thing as a violent home invasion. The whole point of the former is to avoid detection. The point of the latter is to confront the occupants and get them to give you the cash.


That's nuthing... Just wait until he reaches for bananas...

Do you have a position on this topic, or did you just go to the effort of posting so that you could remind us that you have a pathological hatred of opinions which differ from your own?
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Re: Dumbest Newbie Reporter Ever

Postby Coligny » Thu Mar 31, 2016 11:20 pm

can't find the bigger newbie discover japan thread and slightly OT anyway

Welcome to Japan — Where homes are thrown away after one generation


http://finance.yahoo.com/news/rapid-des ... 12426.html
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Re: Dumbest Newbie Reporter Ever

Postby yanpa » Thu Mar 31, 2016 11:34 pm

Coligny wrote:can't find the bigger newbie discover japan thread and slightly OT anyway

Welcome to Japan — Where homes are thrown away after one generation


http://finance.yahoo.com/news/rapid-des ... 12426.html


Philip Brasor and his wife Masako Tsubuku spent years looking for a house to buy in Japan, and after a fruitless search for a pre-owned home, they decided to build a new one.


Read their blog here.
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Re: Dumbest Newbie Reporter Ever

Postby matsuki » Thu Mar 31, 2016 11:44 pm

I read their stuff quite often after someone else posted them on here. Why did you post this Coligny? Unless they're concrete bunkers like yours, you know many of these shitboxes deteriorate in less than a generation. (not just poor build quality and lack of maintenance but many seem absolutely clueless about what maintenance is needed or...in your words, don't know how to live in a home with indoor pluming)
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Re: Dumbest Newbie Reporter Ever

Postby Russell » Thu Mar 31, 2016 11:55 pm

matsuki wrote:I read their stuff quite often after someone else posted them on here. Why did you post this Coligny? Unless they're concrete bunkers like yours, you know many of these shitboxes deteriorate in less than a generation. (not just poor build quality and lack of maintenance but many seem absolutely clueless about what maintenance is needed or...in your words, don't know how to live in a home with indoor pluming)

Yep, I agree that it is unclear to me why Coligny posted this in this thread...
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Re: Dumbest Newbie Reporter Ever

Postby yanpa » Fri Apr 01, 2016 12:14 am

“It's very unusual to see somebody doing work on their own home, even if it’s just like changing wallpaper or doing very cosmetic changes,”

You just pay someone to do it. Like the two houses behind Chez Yanpa did last year (took me a day or two to realize the scaffolding didn't mean they were going to be torn down, which would have been a pity as one of them is classic Showa with very nice roof tiles), and there's a third one in the neighbourhood about to be "reformed" too.
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Re: Dumbest Newbie Reporter Ever

Postby wuchan » Fri Apr 01, 2016 12:38 am

A while ago I posted about having my house built here. One thing we learned is the home builders intentionally use shitty products inside and out so that they can visit you every five years to sell you new shit. You can get a very high quality home built with all the things that are standard in the US like proper insulation, central heat/air, copper pipes instead of PVC, etc... The problem is if you want that stuff you have to pay more than $1million USD for the house (land is extra) to get the builder to even begin to consider. Sumitomo even offers solid teak flooring and gold faucets.

The sad part is almost nobody sees through the scam. The "architects" are just salesmen with a fancy title, most only have a four year degree which by US standards makes them a draftsman not an architect. Their job is to sell you on sub par plastic bits made by their subsidiaries to increase the group's profit. If you want something that they don't make, be prepared to pay 500% more than retail plus installation. I lost count how many times the GC told me to wait until after they left to install X.
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Re: Dumbest Newbie Reporter Ever

Postby Coligny » Fri Apr 01, 2016 6:46 am

matsuki wrote:I read their stuff quite often after someone else posted them on here. Why did you post this Coligny? Unless they're concrete bunkers like yours, you know many of these shitboxes deteriorate in less than a generation. (not just poor build quality and lack of maintenance but many seem absolutely clueless about what maintenance is needed or...in your words, don't know how to live in a home with indoor pluming)


And i might have been the one who posted their blog too...

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Re: Dumbest Newbie Reporter Ever

Postby matsuki » Fri Apr 01, 2016 10:02 am

yanpa wrote:
“It's very unusual to see somebody doing work on their own home, even if it’s just like changing wallpaper or doing very cosmetic changes,”

You just pay someone to do it. Like the two houses behind Chez Yanpa did last year (took me a day or two to realize the scaffolding didn't mean they were going to be torn down, which would have been a pity as one of them is classic Showa with very nice roof tiles), and there's a third one in the neighbourhood about to be "reformed" too.


Even with that, the cost is so high, you end up seeing homes with duct/packing tape trying to cover up peeling wallpaper, flooring, etc etc. I thought it was bizarre but the IKEA dudes kept giving me the whole "Yappari gaijin wa jibunde yaru" when I bought a kitchen from them...IKEA....but apparently they have an army of daikusan to send out with every purchase :roll:

wuchan wrote:A while ago I posted about having my house built here. One thing we learned is the home builders intentionally use shitty products inside and out so that they can visit you every five years to sell you new shit. You can get a very high quality home built with all the things that are standard in the US like proper insulation, central heat/air, copper pipes instead of PVC, etc... The problem is if you want that stuff you have to pay more than $1million USD for the house (land is extra) to get the builder to even begin to consider. Sumitomo even offers solid teak flooring and gold faucets.

The sad part is almost nobody sees through the scam. The "architects" are just salesmen with a fancy title, most only have a four year degree which by US standards makes them a draftsman not an architect. Their job is to sell you on sub par plastic bits made by their subsidiaries to increase the group's profit. If you want something that they don't make, be prepared to pay 500% more than retail plus installation. I lost count how many times the GC told me to wait until after they left to install X.


THIS x 999,999...I cringe everytime my boss pull out her catalog of rape you without lube priced products for her elderly mother's new home build. (which is a retarded endeavor to begin with since she's 92 and lives in BFE Ehime....but the loval gov paved a new road through the old home and paid for it) Fuck their shoganai-construction and products. Remodel a shack or storefront that has a decent foundation and construction.
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Re: Dumbest Newbie Reporter Ever

Postby Buraku » Wed Apr 07, 2021 9:01 pm

Japan’s Bullet Trains Are Hitting a Speed Bump

https://www.bloomberg.com/news/features ... p-to-speed
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Re: Dumbest Newbie Reporter Ever

Postby Buraku » Fri Oct 15, 2021 10:27 am

Kotaku click baiting?
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Re: Dumbest Newbie Reporter Ever

Postby Buraku » Wed Aug 23, 2023 3:43 am

Deportation from Japan is a traumatizing experience
I am in California right now dealing with the after effects/trying to process everything that has gone on

The anti-smoking laws as well as laws about public photography are extremely restrictive & prohibit personal freedom


https://twitter.com/p8stie/status/1693872475237675142



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