2020 Japan Olympics

[Samurai_Jerk]

Sorta like pachinko...

Exactly like pachinko....except the reservation revenues don't go to bribing police and shady private organizations.

Which dreamland are you in?

I think he's been hitting the peace pipe particularly hard this summer.

[matsuki]

Not saying it's prefect and corruption free but it's nowhere near the type of shit that goes on here:

Revenues, by law, must go toward improving reservation communities. The Indian Gaming Regulatory Act requires that revenues go toward: tribal government operations, promotion of the welfare of the tribe and its citizens, economic development, support of charitable organizations, and compensation to local non-Native governments for support of services provided by those governments.

[wagyl]

Not saying it's prefect and corruption free but it's nowhere near the type of shit that goes on here:

Revenues, by law, must go toward improving reservation communities. The Indian Gaming Regulatory Act requires that revenues go toward: tribal government operations, promotion of the welfare of the tribe and its citizens, economic development, support of charitable organizations,

Subsidised housing for my cousin = shady private organisations.

compensation to local non-Native governments for support of services provided by those governments.

They don't even need brown paper envelopes for the county police, they can do it all out in the open.

Good Lord it is institutionalised at the Federal Government level!

[Taro Toporific]

Tokyo Olympic Organizers Use Photos without Permission
Tokyo, Sept. 11 (Jiji Press)-- The organizing committee for the 2020 Tokyo Olympics and Paralympics said Friday it had used photos taken from the Internet without permission in its press kits.
The kits were used during a press briefing held by the committee on Aug. 28 to claim the originality of the Games' emblems designed by Japanese designer Kenjiro Sano.
Of eight photos that appeared in the kits to explain how the [plagiarized] emblems are used, three were used without permission...more...

[kurogane]

If I read that correctly, the Olympic Committe of the world's second largest proper economy chose plagiarised publicity and promotional materials to explain how they had mistakenly chosen plagiarised publicity and promotional materials to promote and publicise the Olympic Games they are mounting

so, yeah................................

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Epic stuff. This is getting Vonnegutian.

[legion]

I think they were showing materials from the original presentations. Ripping stuff off the internet and mashing it together with Pshop for internal use is common practice among ad agencies, internal use means "for illustrative purposes only, not to be shown to the general public".

This incident is causing a lot of waves, internationally the image of Japanese creatives is in real danger of going right down the tubes, back to the "Japanese just copy everything" reputation they struggled with in the past. All the hard work of Pamyu Pamyu has just been torpedoed.

There may be a shift in working practices, but it will involved clients or agencies paying for material which will never be used outside of a presentation room. Client, money, blood, stone.

There are a lot of nervous art directors & designers around at the moment.

[Coligny]

This incident is causing a lot of waves, internationally the image of Japanese creatives is in real danger of going right down the tubes, back to the "Japanese just copy everything" reputation they struggled with in the past. .

I think it was the job of totoya to do this...

[legion]

I think with cars the thing was they copied and then made them more reliable.

With this logo Sano copied and made it crap.

[Russell]

I think they were showing materials from the original presentations. Ripping stuff off the internet and mashing it together with Pshop for internal use is common practice among ad agencies, internal use means "for illustrative purposes only, not to be shown to the general public".

This incident is causing a lot of waves, internationally the image of Japanese creatives is in real danger of going right down the tubes, back to the "Japanese just copy everything" reputation they struggled with in the past. All the hard work of Pamyu Pamyu has just been torpedoed.

There may be a shift in working practices, but it will involved clients or agencies paying for material which will never be used outside of a presentation room. Client, money, blood, stone.

There are a lot of nervous art directors & designers around at the moment.

And the funny thing is that when it comes to protecting copyrights on their own materials, many of them are pretty tight-assed.

I remember when we had an open day of our research institute a couple of decades ago in which we had some software in which young kids could photoshop some Japanese cartoon characters, like Doraimon, in pics on unusual places like the moon. We were so stupid to ask the publishers permission to use their images for this non-commercial 1-day event, and they did not allow it. Not very smart of them, because exposing the kiddies to these images at an early age would have made them more likely to have become fans of said characters.

Oh well, let them go fuck themselves.

[kurogane]

And the funny thing is that when it comes to protecting copyrights on their own materials, many of them are pretty tight-assed..

Yes, very much. The logical inconsistencies there are quite revealing. Spock would be appalled. And like you noted, they could have viewed it as a touch of free advertising.

[Coligny]

And the funny thing is that when it comes to protecting copyrights on their own materials, many of them are pretty tight-assed..

Yes, very much. The logical inconsistencies there are quite revealing. Spock would be appalled. And like you noted, they could have viewed it as a touch of free advertising.

If it's mine the value is endless, if it belong to a goy the value is nil and it should be mine anyway.

Man, where did I already heard that...

[Samurai_Jerk]

if it belong to a goy the value is nil and it should be mine anyway.

And here I thought you were antisemitic just because you were French. I didn't realize it was also because you were a self-hating Jew.

[Coligny]

if it belong to a goy the value is nil and it should be mine anyway.

And here I thought you were antisemitic just because you were French. I didn't realize it was also because you were a self-hating Jew.

The same way you are our fav' wigger from New York I'm the local... Wigdjew ? Werejew ? Jewolf ? Damn can't even find a word...

[legion]

And the funny thing is that when it comes to protecting copyrights on their own materials, many of them are pretty tight-assed.

Biggest jerks on that front are Google, love having everyone's data, totally paranoid about their own "confidentiality". They are incredibly immature as a company, they actually have color coded lines on the floor of their offices to say who can go where.

[Taro Toporific]

Beat Takeshi in the Shukan Post offers his replacement for the logo for Olympics.

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[wagyl]

His shaft is shorter than Sano's.

[Ol Dirty Gaijin]

It does show more balls.

[Coligny]

And the funny thing is that when it comes to protecting copyrights on their own materials, many of them are pretty tight-assed.

Biggest jerks on that front are Google, love having everyone's data, totally paranoid about their own "confidentiality". They are incredibly immature as a company, they actually have color coded lines on the floor of their offices to say who can go where.

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[matsuki]

This is heading in to "chugokumitai! territory.

Honestly though....I think it's just a case of a lazy designer or a company too cheap to pay for photography. As someone who designs commercial stuff like this on occasion, it's pretty easy to see this happen when the people above you give you an unrealistic budget or are flat out told it would be copyright infringement and they don't think there is any chance anyone would notice. (pretty easy to imagine occurring with the kecchi jiji in charge in Japan)

I think they were showing materials from the original presentations. Ripping stuff off the internet and mashing it together with Pshop for internal use is common practice among ad agencies, internal use means "for illustrative purposes only, not to be shown to the general public".

This incident is causing a lot of waves, internationally the image of Japanese creatives is in real danger of going right down the tubes, back to the "Japanese just copy everything" reputation they struggled with in the past. All the hard work of Pamyu Pamyu has just been torpedoed.

There may be a shift in working practices, but it will involved clients or agencies paying for material which will never be used outside of a presentation room. Client, money, blood, stone.

There are a lot of nervous art directors & designers around at the moment.

And the funny thing is that when it comes to protecting copyrights on their own materials, many of them are pretty tight-assed.

Yep, Japanese companies tend to demand absolute control....while many companies in other countries are recognizing that in many cases the marketing benefits outweigh any losses when their logo, product, material ends up gaining some popularity through an unauthorized source. Also, no company is going to look good, even if they have the right of it, to pursue litigation against a "little guy" unless there was some major benefit derived by the unauthorized use. I wonder if they've made an offers to the copyright holders of the images they used without permission...would seem to be step 1.

[Yokohammer]

Yep, Japanese companies tend to demand absolute control....while many companies in other countries are recognizing that in many cases the marketing benefits outweigh any losses when their logo, product, material ends up gaining some popularity through an unauthorized source. Also, no company is going to look good, even if they have the right of it, to pursue litigation against a "little guy" unless there was some major benefit derived by the unauthorized use. I wonder if they've made an offers to the copyright holders of the images they used without permission...would seem to be step 1.

But not all major American corporations are that enlightened.
This case sprung to mind as soon as I read your post.

Starbungs vs. Starbucks: Billion dollar corporation vs. street vendor

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[matsuki]

Yep, Japanese companies tend to demand absolute control....while many companies in other countries are recognizing that in many cases the marketing benefits outweigh any losses when their logo, product, material ends up gaining some popularity through an unauthorized source. Also, no company is going to look good, even if they have the right of it, to pursue litigation against a "little guy" unless there was some major benefit derived by the unauthorized use. I wonder if they've made an offers to the copyright holders of the images they used without permission...would seem to be step 1.

But not all major American corporations are that enlightened.
This case sprung to mind as soon as I read your post.

Starbungs vs. Starbucks: Billion dollar corporation vs. street vendor

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I remember Bung! I can see why they'd want to stop him though...it's not like he's selling unlicensed starbucks coffee, he basically knocked off the logo and is selling his own....and like some of the knock off brands in Japan and Korea, the locals there grow up thinking the knockoff is the original. (so yeah, can see why they wouldn't want that to happen) Like I said before though, even though they are in the right and it's in their best interest to stop him, they look like assholes for suing him. Would have been cheaper if they offered to design him another logo and hell, they could have even licensed "Bung's Brew" in their local shops. Sometimes killing with kindness is a better option than taking legal swings at a little guy when there is a PR factor involved like this.

[Samurai_Jerk]

Would have been cheaper if they offered to design him another logo and hell, they could have even licensed "Bung's Brew" in their local shops.

A company doesn't want to set that kind of precedent. If they do, it'll encourage all kinds of copycats looking for pay offs.

[matsuki]

Would have been cheaper if they offered to design him another logo and hell, they could have even licensed "Bung's Brew" in their local shops.

A company doesn't want to set that kind of precedent. If they do, it'll encourage all kinds of copycats looking for pay offs.

Obviously not, and my guess is a non-disclosure agreement would be silly over there....but my point is they should have found a way of dealing with the problem before it became this big weird PR that makes them look like assholes. If they did "take care" of Bung and it did become an issue of other copycats, the whole "looking like assholes" problem is out the door...people so obviously looking for payouts would find less pity when being sued for assery like that.

For the record, they settled out of court with no compensation and the logo being changed to "Bung's Tears." Reasonable outcome and all...

[Taro Toporific]

Zaha Hadid forced to throw in the towel over Tokyo Olympic stadium
8 September 2015 | dezeen.com
...Zaha Hadid Architects has had to give up its battle over the Tokyo 2020 Olympics stadium after failing to secure a construction company for its design.
Zaha Hadid teamed up with Japanese architecture and engineering firm Nikken Sekkei to renew its bid for the stadium design earlier this month, but the firms have announced that they will be unable to enter the competition.
"It is disappointing that the two years of work and investment in the existing design for a new National Stadium for Japan cannot be further developed to meet the new brief* through the new design competition," said Zaha Hadid Architects (ZHA) in a statement.
More...

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*An architectural "brief" seems to be architect-talk for the formal statement of the requirements that a client wants.

[Russell]

:mrgreen:
Zaha Hadid forced to throw in the towel over Tokyo Olympic stadium
8 September 2015 | dezeen.com
...Zaha Hadid Architects has had to give up its battle over the Tokyo 2020 Olympics stadium after failing to secure a construction company for its design.
Zaha Hadid teamed up with Japanese architecture and engineering firm Nikken Sekkei to renew its bid for the stadium design earlier this month, but the firms have announced that they will be unable to enter the competition.
"It is disappointing that the two years of work and investment in the existing design for a new National Stadium for Japan cannot be further developed to meet the new brief* through the new design competition," said Zaha Hadid Architects (ZHA) in a statement.
More...

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*An architectural "brief" seems to be architect-talk for the formal statement of the requirements that a client wants.

I do like her dress. Fabulous design...

[Takechanpoo]

[Russell]

Not Olympics, but still quite an achievement.

105-year-old Japan man sets 100-meter, shot-put world records

A 105-year-old Japanese man established world records in the 100 meters and the shot put at a "Masters" athletic meet held in Kyoto Wednesday.

Hidekichi Miyazaki ran the 100-meter race in 42.22 seconds and marked 3.25 meters in the shot put, both world records for elderly male athletes aged 105 to 109.

Miyazaki imitated Olympic gold medalist Usain Bolt's "lightning pose" after he finished the 100-meter dash. But he was not fully satisfied with the record, saying, "I wept bitter tears because my target time was 35 seconds." His 29.83 seconds still stand as the fastest time for 100- to 104-year-old men.

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100 meter in 42.22 seconds is faster than 8.5 km/h.

[Samurai_Jerk]

I missed the comma after meter on the first read of the title and wondered what the fuck 100 meter shot-put was.

[Taro Toporific]

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My vote for the Tokyo Olympic stadium's new design, Proposal B:
The Triple Veggie Burger.

Japan gets peek at new proposed Olympic stadium designs
japantoday.com | 2015-Dec-14
Two groups competing for the lucrative contract to build the new Tokyo Olympic stadium have disclosed their design proposals.
The Japan Sports Council released the designs on Monday and said the winner will be chosen this month. It did not identify which companies have proposed which designs.
The two designs are more understated than the original plan by British-Iraqi architect Zaha Hadid, which was scrapped due to controversy over its cost and scale...
...Design “A’’ has a relatively flat root and fits in with surrounding greenery, with shrubbery along its outer concourses. The combined steel and wood structure seems to echo traditional temple designs, and stands only 50 meters tall, with a center sports ground sunk below the surface. It would cost 153 billion yen...
...The 54.3-meter-tall Design “B’’ is more ethereal, with outer glass walls that blend with the sky and are meant to reflect the traditional Asian concepts of the Five Elements of wood, fire, earth, metal and water. It would cost 153.7 billion yen.
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///Notice that the new projected cost 153.7 billion yen for the Japanese design is so much better than the previous 169 billion yen price tag of the evil alien designed stadium that was rejected.

[legion]

A mere 16 billion yen, small change.

How fucking much is concrete these days, are the residents of Chichibu fucking billionaires yet?