Rugby World Cup

[legion]

Japan just handed South Africa their asses on a plate.

Fucking brilliant

http://www.theguardian.com/sport/live/2015/sep/19/rugby-world-cup-south-africa-v-japan-live

[Coligny]

Dood, not everyone here is a japafag weaboo...

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Represent'

[kurogane]

Great news, good for them. It's nice to see the monopoly get shaken up a bit. Even allowing Mock the Week's Hugh Dennis' famous observation: Rugby Doesn't Matter!

Any bets on Pearl Harbor headlines in the angry white media?

So, how are England and Canada looking? I might have to break out the corn ships and salsa and watch 3 or 4 minutes of a match. More than that and I start to feel strangely aroused at the sight of fat men in those tight little AKB outfits they wear nowadays

[Wage Slave]

Amazing effort. A lot of people are saying it was the best world cup game ever. In the dying moments Japan repeatedly refused to kick a penalty which would have got them a draw and finally managed to pull off a try.

It's being replayed on TV this afternoon. I'll be watching.

[Wage Slave]

Any bets on Pearl Harbor headlines in the angry white media?

Nah. This is rugby - Fulsome praise all the way.

[kurogane]

I'm glad. It doesn't mean I wouldn't titter and smirk if they did it, but not doing it is more betterer.

It would be nice to see some of the lower ranked teams do well, like Argentina, France, and even Canada. I might have to try and watch a full match. Those new stretchy Pride Parade outfits are quite flattering after all.

[legion]

So, how are England and Canada looking? I might have to break out the corn ships and salsa and watch 3 or 4 minutes of a match.

Canada played well against Ireland and the scoreline didn't really do them justice. The Irish, like South Africa, looked a little locked into a game plan that involved the opposition capitulating. Give Canada a few years and some decent coaches and they will be contenders.

[kurogane]

Yeah, I have heard we have a good squad. I still dont get why we don't already have those coaches and training programmes you mention, having been Almost There for 25 years now but it's nice to hear. Also, don't forget there are 2 other problems: Winter (no, really), and the fact that Rugby or Soccer or anything can never compete for the true athletic cream with the only sport that matters (:rolleyes: )................men in striped stockings and big pants on skates.

[legion]

Amazing effort. A lot of people are saying it was the best world cup game ever. In the dying moments Japan repeatedly refused to kick a penalty which would have got them a draw and finally managed to pull off a try.

It's being replayed on TV this afternoon. I'll be watching.

It was excellent, a lot of Brits in the crowd got behind Japan, but this wasn't just underdogs getting lucky, this was a faster, smarter team beating a bunch of big guys who thought physical size was all that mattered. The Japanese scrum was particularly good, they got the ball in and out fast when they had the put in, not giving the opposition a chance for a breather. Their passing was excellent and most importantly they didn't give up when the flow of play turned against them.

And yeah, the decision to go for the scrum and possible try against a penalty kick and a draw was immense.

[Wage Slave]

[Ol Dirty Gaijin]

Dood, not everyone here is a japafag weaboo...

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Frog supporting the 'boks should not be shouting weaboo.
To bring further into frame, Eddie Jones is half.

[chibaka]

It was a good game, and a great result for Japan. A surprising number of FG on the team though

[legion]

http://www.bbc.com/news/world-asia-34309814


could also put this under another newbie reporter discovers japan

Hence there was no live televised coverage in Japan for this game and many fans did not even bother to cheer the team on

The guy is such a rugby fan he doesn't have cable tv which broadcast the match live with English and Japanese commentary

[legion]

It was a good game, and a great result for Japan. A surprising number of FG on the team though

South Africaans didn't really reflect the racial make up of their country either.

[TennoChinko]

Apparently the IRB (Dublin) is considering an offer to South Africa to host the 2019 World Cup (which is supposed to be hosted by Tokyo) ...

Articles from Sept 4th prior to this year's World Cup:

South Africa May Be Backup For 2019 RWC Hosts Japan
http://afkinsider.com/103126/south-afri ... sts-japan/

SA on standby for RWC 2019?
http://www.supersport.com/rugby/sa-rugb ... r_RWC_2019

SA on standby for RWC 2019?
by Brenden Nel 03 September 2015, 08:56

South Africa could be asked to be on standby to host the 2019 Rugby World Cup following a series of setbacks to current hosts Japan.

According to two high-placed sources, SARU chief executive Jurie Roux this week held secretive meetings with World Rugby – formerly the IRB – to ascertain South Africa’s readiness to step in at the last minute should the Japanese not be able to meet their obligations to host the tournament.

World Rugby has criticised the Japanese Rugby Union, with some “fearing” they have given them an “ultimatum” regarding assurances that the stadiums are up to standard after it was revealed last week that the tournament would not be able to use the National Stadium.

This has led World Rugby to look elsewhere, with South Africa – who are already bidding for the 2023 tournament – being sounded out as to their readiness in case the Japanese are unable to meet their obligations.

While neither party is likely to admit to the meetings, two separate sources have confirmed to supersport.com that they have taken place and that SARU have indicated a willingness to help out if needed.

But for World Rugby to take the step to take the showpiece tournament away from the Japanese would be the last resort, especially as it forms a massive part of the global expansion plans of rugby to take it into new territories.

The Japanese are also beset with other problems, including having to give assurances to Southern Hemisphere controlling body Sanzar as to their readiness to enter an expanded Super Rugby competition in 2016. Added to this was the recent resignation of National coach Eddie Jones, ostensibly to join the Stormers next year as their Super Rugby coach.

Their woes on the World Cup front are the most concerning, with World Rugby asking the Japanese Rugby Union for a “formal reassurance” that it can deliver on its 2019 World Cup commitments following the removal of the new national stadium in Tokyo from its list of venues.

Japan suffered a blow when Prime Minister Shinzo Abe ordered plans for the National Stadium to be re-drawn as it was too expensive, meaning it will not be ready in time for the Rugby World Cup but rather for the 2020 Olympic Games.

The loss of the stadium has left organisers without a main venue for the tournament, with World Rugby now demanding the JRU give a revised budget and host venue proposal.

“The new National Stadium was due to be the centrepiece of an exciting program of 12 host venues, staging the opening match, the final and other key clashes and its loss has significant impact on the overall ticketing capacity and tournament budget,” World Rugby said in a statement late last week. “These are critical to an event that is the lifeblood of the game.”

Financial considerations are a massive part of the process for World Rugby and while they wait for Japan’s revised budgetary response, it makes sense that the governing body has sought an alternative in case the Japanese cannot deliver.

South Africa have a host of stadiums in top condition following hosting the 2010 Football World Cup and these have formed an integral part of their bid for the 2023 tournament.

Former Australian Rugby Union boss John O’Neill, who was one of those pushing for Japan’s inclusion in Sanzar tournaments, warned that an “ultimatum” to the Japanese was the wrong way to go.

“I've read the World Rugby press release regarding the assurances they are seeking from Japan and it concerns me that this ultimatum may well be a precursor to World Rugby stripping Japan of the hosting rights," O'Neill said in comments published by The Australian newspaper on Monday.

"And indeed there has been some sentiment out of the UK in particular that the decision to award Japan the hosting rights in the first place was one that some would like to reverse."

Organisers have earmarked the Tokyo Stadium as a replacement but the 50 000-capacity venue may not be World Rugby's ideal choice.

O'Neill, who stepped down as ARU chief in 2013 after a second stint in charge, backed Japan's bid after pulling Australia out of the bidding process in 2009.

"The fact is the ARU, New Zealand and other forward-thinking nations worked very hard to ensure Japan was awarded the rights to host 2019, being the first non-traditional territory to do so," O'Neill added.

"And the strategic imperative is blindingly obvious that if World Rugby wants to live up to its objective of being a truly world game, then every effort and every ounce of energy must be directed into ensuring Japan does host 2019.

"If you look at the composition of the organising committee that has been assembled, it is a very large collection of captains of industry in Japan, chairmen and CEOs of incredibly large and important companies across a range of industries.

"I have no doubt that these gentlemen will rise to the challenge as will the Japanese government."

Japan is also due to enter Sanzar’s Super Rugby competition next year along with the EP Kings and an Argentinean side, but have reportedly only signed five players at this stage, prompting Sanzar to also ask for assurances while speculation is growing they may be left out of the 2016 competition.

[Yokohammer]

Ooh ... Mori is going to be pissed.

[Russell]

Ooh ... Mori is going to be pissed.

They can always divert to the Yokohama station.

[TennoChinko]

Ooh ... Mori is going to be pissed.

Mori's typical incompetence including appointment of 'his boy' Akira Shimazu is the likely cause...


caption: Akira Shimazu, CEO Japan Rugby World Cup 2019, left, Bernard Lapasset, Chairman Rugby World Cup, center, and Tatsuzo Yabe, Chairman of Japan Rugby Union attend the announcement of the host cities and venues for the Rugby World Cup in Japan 2019 in Dublin, Ireland, Monday March 2, 2015. (AP Photo/Peter Morrison)

Could be just timing, but the hands in the March 2nd photo don't look very united...

Of course, Sept 16th, we get a soft 'denial': ...The 2019 Rugby World Cup will be in Japan, World Rugby president Bernard Lapasset insisted today. "There is no Plan B," he said at a news conference at Twickenham, a comment designed to offset reports South Africa, Italy, and Australia were willing alternatives as hosts.

There has been precedent:

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Rugby_Wor ... _Australia

The 2003 Cup was intended to be held jointly by Australia and New Zealand, but disagreements between the International Rugby Board and the NZRU, over sponsorship, advertising and ticketing, saw the competition played solely in Australia. This was the first tournament to be won by a team from the northern hemisphere. The 2003 World Cup saw matches played in eleven stadia in ten Australian cities.

NZ got to host it for 2011, but not without protest from guess who? Mori Mori Unchi:

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Rugby_Wor ... ew_Zealand

Japan responded critically to the IRB's decision to award the 2011 World Cup to New Zealand, with the Japanese RFU chief Yoshiro Mori declaring: "The established nations pass the ball around their friends . . . Only the interests of the bigger unions remain."[18] Despite not winning the right to host the 2011 World Cup, Japan Rugby officials remained optimistic about future opportunities. Japan Rugby stated: "We want to help with the spread of rugby fever . . . and we believe that dispersing rugby fever in the biggest continent on the planet will help the IRB in their mission of globalizing the game we all love."[19]

The IRB defended its decision to award the 2011 World Cup to New Zealand instead of Japan, stating: "New Zealand can guarantee packed stadiums and that can't be guaranteed in Japan."[20]

The attendance for the 2011 World Cup in NZ was 1,477,294 people @85% capacity - less than the 2,263,223 recorded by France in 2007 (92% capacity) and 1,837,547 by Australia in 2003 although their capacity was only 83%. This year, the numbers are obviously going to be a lot more given that it's being held in England.

[Yokohammer]

Mori ... Incompetence.
No discernible disparity there. You can also add pompous and arrogant.

Now if they'd just give the olympics to Zanzibar or somewhere we can all have a good laugh and get on with it.

[TennoChinko]

Australia is itching to host it again:

Australia may bid for 2019 Rugby World Cup if Japan lose hosting rights

However, the article mentions South Korea... if that happened. From the Japanese perspective ... ouch!

[Russell]

Australia is itching to host it again:

Australia may bid for 2019 Rugby World Cup if Japan lose hosting rights

However, the article mentions South Korea... if that happened. From the Japanese perspective ... ouch!

Let's make a deal.

Australia the 2019 Rugby hosting, South-Korea the 2020 Olympics...

[Yokohammer]

Australia is itching to host it again:

Australia may bid for 2019 Rugby World Cup if Japan lose hosting rights

However, the article mentions South Korea... if that happened. From the Japanese perspective ... ouch!

Let's make a deal.

Australia the 2019 Rugby hosting, South-Korea the 2020 Olympics...

I like where this is going ...

[Russell]

Australia is itching to host it again:

Australia may bid for 2019 Rugby World Cup if Japan lose hosting rights

However, the article mentions South Korea... if that happened. From the Japanese perspective ... ouch!

Let's make a deal.

Australia the 2019 Rugby hosting, South-Korea the 2020 Olympics...

I like where this is going ...

Weren't you a supporter of the 2020 Tokyo Olympics?

[Yokohammer]

Weren't you a supporter of the 2020 Tokyo Olympics?

Yes.

I'm just really pissed at the current administration at the moment and would like to see egg on their faces. I have also become very suspicious of their motives and methods for just about everything. The stadium has been a farce, the logo has been a farce ... I'm beginning to wonder if they are focused enough on the olympics rather than how they're going to profit from it to actually make it work.

I admit that it's not a dignified sentiment, but they haven't shown a shred of dignity either so fuck 'em.

[TennoChinko]

.... ... I'm beginning to wonder if they are focused enough on the olympics rather than how they're going to profit from it to actually make it work.

Almost everyone cites the 1964 Tokyo Olympics as the example... and although hosting the Winter Olympics are not as large nor as prestigious, in Japan's case, the 1998 Nagano Winter Olympics are a lot more relevant.

This Google doc shows the reported costs of various Olympic Games.

The full cost of the Nagano Olympics is unknown, due to Nagano Olympic Bid Committee vice-secretary general Sumikazu Yamaguchi ordering accounting documents burned

( cited source )

Nagano, Japan (Winter 1998)
Boom or Bust? Bust

The full cost of the Nagano Winter Olympics will never be known as the documents accounting for money spent on the Olympic bid were burnt on the orders of the Olympic Committee vice-secretary general, Sumikazu Yamaguchi. Yet it is clear that it went vastly over budget, with new infrastructure to make the Games work in this small Japanese city costing up to $10 billion. As a result, Nagano fell into recession, with the debt on Olympic projects roughly $30,000 per family and growing. It is estimated that these debts will take until 2015 to pay off. The Olympic venues alone cost $22 million per year in upkeep, and their rental income brings only one-tenth of that amount.

Although Nagano is working hard to stop the Olympic venues turning into rotting white elephants, the cost of their upkeep is not easy for the city’s finances. Today it still costs $2.5 million a year alone to maintain the M-Wave (pictured here), where local school children take skating lessons on a high-speed 400-metre rink in winter. The installation of a high-speed bullet train during the Olympics also posed problems for the local hotel industry as more skiers came on day trips rather than spending the night and locals are more inclined to go on shopping days to larger cities.

So, we google Sumikazu Yamaguchi:

https://archive.is/QR8uF

We get articles like ....

THE INDEPENDENT: Olympic Games: IOC report shows `decades of bribery'BY KIERAN DALEY Thursday 21 January 1999

TIME: Japan's Sullied Bid By DONALD MACINTYRE Monday, Feb. 01, 1999

LA TIMES: Scandal Heats Up Globally, Olympics: Official says sponsor talks on hold. Nagano bid member tells of burning documents as 'courtesy' to IOC. January 21, 1999|ALAN ABRAHAMSON

[matsuki]

The full cost of the Nagano Olympics is unknown, due to Nagano Olympic Bid Committee vice-secretary general Sumikazu Yamaguchi ordering accounting documents burned

Chuuugoku mitai! (in 1998?!!)

[dimwit]

It's amazing to me how the guy ever managed to avoid jail time. I can't find any reference to what happened to Yamaguchi -yogisha after the Olympics.

[wagyl]

The full cost of the Nagano Olympics is unknown, due to Nagano Olympic Bid Committee vice-secretary general Sumikazu Yamaguchi ordering accounting documents burned

Chuuugoku Amerika mitai! (in 1998?!!)

FIFY

It was when the Nagano stationery bill for brown envelopes became (un)known, that Salt Lake City came under investigation.

The Salt Lake City officials were all acquitted, too. TIUS.

[Samurai_Jerk]

The full cost of the Nagano Olympics is unknown, due to Nagano Olympic Bid Committee vice-secretary general Sumikazu Yamaguchi ordering accounting documents burned

Chuuugoku Amerika mitai! (in 1998?!!)

FIFY

It was when the Nagano stationery bill for brown envelopes became (un)known, that Salt Lake City came under investigation.

The Salt Lake City officials were all acquitted, too. TIUS.

Using matsuki logic pretty much every country that's ever bid for the Olympics is chuugoku mitai.

[matsuki]

Bribery is corruption indeed, that's on the SLC and IOC officials....but to have the event go over budget and just outright burn accounting documents to get away with it? WTF?