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Russian Shenanigans

Postby Samurai_Jerk » Wed Sep 16, 2015 12:34 pm

Japan protests after 'Russian' plane enters airspace

Tokyo has lodged a protest with Moscow after a foreign aircraft -- believed to be Russian -- briefly violated its airspace, prompting Tokyo to scramble four fighter jets, government officials said Wednesday.

The foreign ministry made the protest shortly after the plane entered Japanese airspace off the coast of the northernmost main island of Hokkaido, near a disputed island chain, on Tuesday afternoon.

"We made the protest through the Russian embassy in Tokyo," a foreign ministry official told AFP.

"The Russian side did not confirm the case, only saying they will check."

The Japanese Air Self-Defense Force scrambled four jets to head off the intruder, which it believed was Russian after analysing its course, a defence ministry official said.

If confirmed, this would be the first time Russian planes have entered Japanese airspace since August 2013, when two Tu-95 Russian strategic bombers were intercepted off the southwestern Okinoshima Island, the ministry said.

Sixteen seconds after entering Japanese airspace, the plane left toward the Kuril island chain, claimed by Tokyo but controlled by Russia, the ministry added.
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Postby Coligny » Wed Sep 16, 2015 12:51 pm

Must have been a drunk mistake, when they fly their Bears inbound on purpose they never leve before taking pictures with the intercepting fighters...

Also... Can we put the Tomcats and AIM54 back in service ? Sort of feels like they might finally be needed...
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Postby Takechanpoo » Sat Oct 03, 2015 2:16 pm

The bacteria were originally found on Mamontova Gora - Mammoth Mountain - in Siberia's Sakha Republic, also known as Yakutia, in 2009 by Dr Anatoli Brouchkov, head of the Geocryology Department, Moscow State University. Similar bacteria were discovered by Siberian scientist Vladimir Repin in the brain of an extinct woolly mammoth preserved by permafrost.

Describing the discoveries as a 'scientific sensation' and an 'elixir of life', Yakutsk epidemiologist Dr Viktor Chernyavsky said: 'The bacteria gives out biologically active substances throughout its life, which activates the immune status of experimental animals.' As a result, 'mice grannies not only began to dance, but also produced offspring'.

If the same substance were to be given to people, it could cause a significant improvement in their health, leading to the discovery of an 'elixir of life', said Dr Chernyavsky.

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Postby Russell » Sat Oct 03, 2015 3:13 pm

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The bacteria were originally found on Mamontova Gora - Mammoth Mountain - in Siberia's Sakha Republic, also known as Yakutia, in 2009 by Dr Anatoli Brouchkov, head of the Geocryology Department, Moscow State University. Similar bacteria were discovered by Siberian scientist Vladimir Repin in the brain of an extinct woolly mammoth preserved by permafrost.

Describing the discoveries as a 'scientific sensation' and an 'elixir of life', Yakutsk epidemiologist Dr Viktor Chernyavsky said: 'The bacteria gives out biologically active substances throughout its life, which activates the immune status of experimental animals.' As a result, 'mice grannies not only began to dance, but also produced offspring'.

If the same substance were to be given to people, it could cause a significant improvement in their health, leading to the discovery of an 'elixir of life', said Dr Chernyavsky.

http://siberiantimes.com/science/casest ... rnal-life/

I read that news too, but I figured it had too much of a BS factor.
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Postby Samurai_Jerk » Wed Dec 02, 2015 11:59 am

Russia building new military bases on islands claimed by Japan

Russia has begun building two modern military compounds on the far eastern Kuril islands, defence minister Sergei Shoigu said Tuesday, heightening long-running tensions with Japan over the disputed islands.

Russia is "actively carrying out construction of military compounds on the islands of Iturup and Kunashir", Shoigu said at a meeting with military top brass, according to the ministry's website.

Relations between Moscow and Tokyo have been strained for decades because of the status of the four southernmost islands in the Kuril chain, known as the Northern Territories in Japan.
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Postby matsuki » Wed Dec 02, 2015 3:59 pm

China started a trend! Will Japan start building on their other disputed islands?
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Postby Coligny » Wed Dec 02, 2015 4:30 pm

matsuki wrote:China started a trend! Will Japan start building on their other disputed islands?



Aren't those islands Russian territory... Fo real...
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Postby Samurai_Jerk » Wed Dec 02, 2015 4:36 pm

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matsuki wrote:China started a trend! Will Japan start building on their other disputed islands?



Aren't those islands Russian territory... Fo real...


Yes, but Japan doesn't recognize those claims. I'm usually neutral about who is right in these situations but this is one where Japan can eat a dick. They're lucky the only territory they lost after the war was a few small crappy islands.
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Re: Russian Shenanigans

Postby inflames » Wed Dec 02, 2015 6:27 pm

Samurai_Jerk wrote:
Coligny wrote:
matsuki wrote:China started a trend! Will Japan start building on their other disputed islands?



Aren't those islands Russian territory... Fo real...


Yes, but Japan doesn't recognize those claims. I'm usually neutral about who is right in these situations but this is one where Japan can eat a dick. They're lucky the only territory they lost after the war was a few small crappy islands.

I completely agree with this - people here should consider themselves lucky that they surrendered before Stalin invaded Hokkaido (planned for the end of August 1945). The Soviets probably would have probably done what they did in those islands, East Prussia, and eastern Poland - basically expelled the locals.
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Re: Russian Shenanigans

Postby Russell » Wed Dec 02, 2015 8:18 pm

inflames wrote:
Samurai_Jerk wrote:
Coligny wrote:
matsuki wrote:China started a trend! Will Japan start building on their other disputed islands?



Aren't those islands Russian territory... Fo real...


Yes, but Japan doesn't recognize those claims. I'm usually neutral about who is right in these situations but this is one where Japan can eat a dick. They're lucky the only territory they lost after the war was a few small crappy islands.

I completely agree with this - people here should consider themselves lucky that they surrendered before Stalin invaded Hokkaido (planned for the end of August 1945). The Soviets probably would have probably done what they did in those islands, East Prussia, and eastern Poland - basically expelled the locals.

What the Russians could have done is irrelevant here.

What they did is important: invading a country that had already surrendered.

I am with Japan on this.
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Postby matsuki » Thu Dec 03, 2015 10:05 am

Russell wrote:
inflames wrote:
Samurai_Jerk wrote:
Coligny wrote:
matsuki wrote:China started a trend! Will Japan start building on their other disputed islands?



Aren't those islands Russian territory... Fo real...


Yes, but Japan doesn't recognize those claims. I'm usually neutral about who is right in these situations but this is one where Japan can eat a dick. They're lucky the only territory they lost after the war was a few small crappy islands.

I completely agree with this - people here should consider themselves lucky that they surrendered before Stalin invaded Hokkaido (planned for the end of August 1945). The Soviets probably would have probably done what they did in those islands, East Prussia, and eastern Poland - basically expelled the locals.

What the Russians could have done is irrelevant here.

What they did is important: invading a country that had already surrendered.

I am with Japan on this.


I don't know the history on this but weren't those islands in dispute with Russia long before WWII?
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Postby wagyl » Thu Dec 03, 2015 10:48 am

To get Matsuki started so that he doesn't have to post any more "I know nothing about what I am saying but this is a fact about it" posts...
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kuril_Islands_dispute
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Postby matsuki » Thu Dec 03, 2015 3:13 pm

wagyl wrote:To get Matsuki started so that he doesn't have to post any more "I know nothing about what I am saying but this is a fact about it" posts...
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kuril_Islands_dispute


According to that wiki, there was an original agreement, followed by military backed land grabs by both countries that have brought things back somewhat near that original agreement....but I say fuck the nationalists of either country because:

The Ainu or the Aynu (Ainu アィヌ Aynu; Japanese: アイヌ Ainu; Russian: Айны Ajny), and in historical Japanese texts Ezo/Emishi/Ebisu (蝦夷) or Aino (アイノ) are an indigenous people of Japan (Hokkaido, and formerly northeastern Honshu) and Russia (Sakhalin and the Kuril Islands).


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Some individuals of the Ainu also claim the Kuril Islands, on the basis that their ethnic group inhabited the archipelago and Sakhalin prior to the arrival of Japanese and Russian settlers in the 19th century.

In 2004, the small Ainu community living in Kamchatka Krai wrote a letter to Vladimir Putin, urging him to reconsider any move to award the Southern Kuril islands to Japan. They also urged him to recognize the Japanese genocide against the Ainu people, which was turned down by Putin.
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Postby Takechanpoo » Tue Jan 12, 2016 2:25 pm

here in japan this style had been prevailed until around 90's but currently is "endangered species".
its called unko squat(うんこ座り) or yanki squat(ヤンキー座り)
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Postby Samurai_Jerk » Wed Jan 20, 2016 5:35 pm

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Putin Trolls Europe's Jews

Vladimir Putin has called on European Jews to come to Russia.

"They can come to us," the Russian president told the head of the European Jewish Congress, Viatcheslav Moshe Kantor, at a meeting in Moscow, according to a Kremlin statement. "They left from the Soviet Union. Let them return."

Kantor, a Moscow native, told reporters that anti-Semitism in Europe is rising to World War II levels and that "Jews are fleeing the once-prosperous Europe."

Putin replied: "I've seen reports that (Jewish) people there are afraid of wearing a yarmulke in public. They're trying to hide their ethnicity."
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Postby Coligny » Wed Jan 20, 2016 6:42 pm

Samurai_Jerk wrote::keyboardcoffee:

Putin Trolls Europe's Jews



That's quite some clickbaiting here SJ...

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Postby Samurai_Jerk » Wed Jan 20, 2016 7:16 pm

In fact, the Russian Jewish Congress issued a report in 2014 that said the country had seen a significant increase in anti-Semitism, including attacks on cemeteries
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Postby Russell » Wed Jan 20, 2016 9:38 pm

Kind of complicated issue.

Most of the antisemitism in the EU probably originates with the population with Arab ethnicity.

But in that sense there is also a lot of antisemitism in Israel...
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Postby Coligny » Wed Jan 20, 2016 11:34 pm

Russell wrote:Kind of complicated issue.

Most of the antisemitism in the EU probably originates with the population with Arab ethnicity.

But in that sense there is also a lot of antisemitism in Israel...


Historically, I think it's more aboot christian society and killing baby jeebus, middle age bullshit and all.
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Postby Russell » Wed Jan 20, 2016 11:50 pm

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Russell wrote:Kind of complicated issue.

Most of the antisemitism in the EU probably originates with the population with Arab ethnicity.

But in that sense there is also a lot of antisemitism in Israel...


Historically, I think it's more aboot christian society and killing baby jeebus, middle age bullshit and all.

But with the gradual decrease of Christians in the European populations that has become less and less relevant over the last decades.
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Postby inflames » Thu Jan 21, 2016 12:22 am

Russell wrote:Kind of complicated issue.

Most of the antisemitism in the EU probably originates with the population with Arab ethnicity.

But in that sense there is also a lot of antisemitism in Israel...

I've been surprised with the antisemitism - it's not from Muslims but from white people, a lot of whom are pissed off over lack of opportunities and have fallen in with right wing groups full of hate. Not surprised that it isn't from Muslims, but the hatred coming from otherwise normal seeming people is surprising.

Lots of people seem to equate disagreement with Israel's policies (where Netanyahu probably wants to create living space for Jews) and antisemitism, but most of the time this isn't the case.
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Postby Russell » Thu Jan 21, 2016 12:28 am

inflames wrote:
Russell wrote:Kind of complicated issue.

Most of the antisemitism in the EU probably originates with the population with Arab ethnicity.

But in that sense there is also a lot of antisemitism in Israel...

I've been surprised with the antisemitism - it's not from Muslims but from white people, a lot of whom are pissed off over lack of opportunities and have fallen in with right wing groups full of hate. Not surprised that it isn't from Muslims, but the hatred coming from otherwise normal seeming people is surprising.

Lots of people seem to equate disagreement with Israel's policies (where Netanyahu probably wants to create living space for Jews) and antisemitism, but most of the time this isn't the case.

Are you talking about the EU or the US?
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Postby Coligny » Thu Jan 21, 2016 7:20 am

And Jews or Zionists ?
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Postby kagemusha » Thu Jan 21, 2016 11:43 am

First - The antisemitism from the white crowd is not something new and in general it's nasty, it's not fun but violence is really on the fringe. The 'new' antisemitism mainly coming from Arabs and Muslims is very violence and reached a scale that made 200,000 old time French Jews for example to start actual preparations to move to Israel or the U.S.
Historically, expulsion of Jews ,actively or passively, means bleak future for the country they leave. Whatever reason suits you, it's just the way it is.
I didn't see much news cover for all the recent violent attacks on Jews in Europe and I would have changed my FB pic to 'Je suis fuck you double standards ignorant assholes' but I like my current one better.
It's funny to see all those people here justifying the illegal annexation of the northern Island by Russia because Japan was the aggressor while demanding Israel to 'return' the West Bank to the Palestinians. (Just to make it clear - I'm a pro Palestinian state but not for the reasons given by clueless westerners that want to feel good about themselves and I have no illusion that it will settle the conflict between Islam and the rest of the world).
And to Coligny, the forum Nazi - You keep using that word, I Do not think ut means what you think it means.
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Postby Coligny » Thu Jan 21, 2016 12:01 pm

So please be free to explain... Because here quite a few times, the more dogmatic the tone has been the weirder the views behind were...
Zionism at least in France is seen for the Jewish religion like diesel are to Volkwsagen. That embarrasment that you can't really get rid of...

Thanks for the new label, now I' the resident CommieNazy apparently... Gonna have to pay double at the shrink...
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Postby kagemusha » Thu Jan 21, 2016 2:57 pm

Coligny wrote:So please be free to explain... Because here quite a few times, the more dogmatic the tone has been the weirder the views behind were...
Zionism at least in France is seen for the Jewish religion like diesel are to Volkwsagen. That embarrasment that you can't really get rid of...

Thanks for the new label, now I' the resident CommieNazy apparently... Gonna have to pay double at the shrink...


It's not important how something is seems, if you want to use a term you can learn about it by yourself instead of talking like a brainwashed useful idiot.
In a nutshell, Zionism is the self right of Jews to have a national home, to govern and protect themselves. You can argue about the way they are doing it but basically Zionism was founded by mainly secular liberal people.
Just an anecdote - the crazy Jewish settlers in the West Bank are not Zionists and call openly to destroy the Israeli state and found an orthodox Jewish state, something like ISIS with yarmulkes.

As for your new label - here and in other threads you use the word with connection to Israel every time. And in the post-modernistic world, where terms like Nazi, Genocide and Apartheid have lost their meaning completely, why do you really care? Israel is Nazi, you are a Nazi and my coworker who left the window opened this morning is a Nazi too.
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Postby kurogane » Thu Jan 21, 2016 4:13 pm

Yup. Nicely put, Kagemoo. White European anti-semitism has always surprised me. As you said, it's not often violent but it is resilient. If I didn't know better I would think they really are different, like the Muslims. But they're not. They just go to church on Saturday. And wear cool caps. And have hot teen daughters with great bums. Or is full integration very much a North American/British thing?
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Postby Coligny » Thu Jan 21, 2016 4:23 pm

In a nutshell, Zionism is the self right of Jews to have a national home, to govern and protect themselves.


Yea, The 1890 version...
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Postby Russell » Thu Jan 21, 2016 7:09 pm

kurogane wrote:White European anti-semitism has always surprised me.

Me too, since it is so rare nowadays.
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