If they'll elect a black POTUS, why not Japanese?

[Samurai_Jerk]

People are accusing the LDP's Kazuya Maruyama of racism for these comments but I'd say he's just dumb given Obama's background.

“In the United States, a black man has become its president. I mean, he is in a bloodline of black people, who were slaves,” Kazuya Maruyama said during a session of Upper House Commission on the Constitution.

“People in the country’s founding era would have never thought that a black slave would become president,”

That stemmed from this.

“What kind of problems with the Constitution could arise if, for instance, Japan becomes the United States’ 51st state?

“As the allocation of House of Representatives seats to each state depends on its population in the United States, ‘Japan State’ would probably hold the largest share in the House,” Maruyama said. “If so, someone from Japan State might become the U.S. president.”

I wonder what the point of those remarks was. You can see the original statement in Japanese here.

[wagyl]

And why are they wasting time in the Diet debating about the US Constitution? I don't see where this is going.

[Samurai_Jerk]

And why are they wasting time in the Diet debating about the US Constitution? I don't see where this is going.

That's what I was wondering.

Also, it seems like Maruyama doesn't understand the difference between a parliamentary and presidential system.

[dimwit]

Being a bit of an old fart, I appreciate the idea of saying whatever comes into your head without having to bother to think about. I however, am not a politican. I assume when someone makes a comment like that, it is a plea for help. 'I really am too old for this job, and just to prove it I'm going to talk about the badgers under my bed'.

[matsuki]

And why are they wasting time in the Diet debating about the US Constitution? I don't see where this is going.

That's what I was wondering.

Also, it seems like Maruyama doesn't understand the difference between a parliamentary and presidential system.

This sounds like most of the worst lectures I've gotten from locals concerning anything kaigai. (and local for that matter) No real understanding or experience regarding what they're talking about, much of what they say is based on misunderstandings, イメージ, emotion, and maybe something they saw on TV recently.

[Coligny]

People are accusing the LDP's Kazuya Maruyama of racism for these comments but I'd say he's just dumb given Obama's background.

“In the United States, a black man has become its president. I mean, he is in a bloodline of black people, who were slaves,” Kazuya Maruyama said during a session of Upper House Commission on the Constitution.

“People in the country’s founding era would have never thought that a black slave would become president,”

That stemmed from this.

“What kind of problems with the Constitution could arise if, for instance, Japan becomes the United States’ 51st state?

“As the allocation of House of Representatives seats to each state depends on its population in the United States, ‘Japan State’ would probably hold the largest share in the House,” Maruyama said. “If so, someone from Japan State might become the U.S. president.”

I wonder what the point of those remarks was. You can see the original statement in Japanese here.

I will need a much bigger bug out bag... or live on the sea of japan side with a boat fueled up and ready to steam full speed to Mother Russia... I'm starting to grow tired of banana dictatorships...

[Takechanpoo]

according to j-wiki, maruyama is a lawyer who studied at a law school of washington univ in 1976 and worked in law office in losangels for 3 years.

[Samurai_Jerk]

according to j-wiki, maruyama is a lawyer who studied at a law school of washington univ in 1976 and worked in law office in losangels for 3 years.

University of Washington (Seattle). Washington University (St. Louis) is different but in Japanese both are ワシントン大学 so the confusion is understandable.

[kurogane]

I fully get that if Japan were to become Canada's 11th province the population of Canada would then be 155 million, and the country the largest in the world if the expanse of the Pacific were included as territory, but it is also true that if you dye a crow white it is still not really a dove.


BTW, wasn't Obama's lack of Negro Cred a fairly serious demerit against him amongst the leadership that values such trifles?

[matsuki]

according to j-wiki, maruyama is a lawyer who studied at a law school of washington univ in 1976 and worked in law office in losangels for 3 years.

University of Washington (Seattle). Washington University (St. Louis) is different but in Japanese both are ワシントン大学 so the confusion is understandable.

So...in his case, the fact that he studied and worked in the US makes his statements and "logic" even more embarrassing?

....are we to buy into the whole bloodline bullshit and start calling Japanese samurai and suggesting that because there are probably a lot of single mazaa working for the post office and if so, a single mazaa might become the next prime minister of Japan. I don't even want to go into the slave issue, see if you can find the slave blood Maruyama speaks of: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Barack_Obama,_Sr.

BTW, wasn't Obama's lack of Negro Cred a fairly serious demerit against him amongst the leadership that values such trifles?

He gets touted as the "first black president™" when he is actually the first mixed president...which I think sounds more "'merica™" than someone who's family has made babies within their race for generations and generations.

[kurogane]

I agree on his ethnic details, but since they have had to put up with being called black because of just one drop they should get some slack if they decide to use that definition to their own ends. But I speak as a firm friend and supporter of the Negro, so I admit to being biased. I simply love their music, and especiallly that adorable Santa's helper the Dutch have.

[Samurai_Jerk]

according to j-wiki, maruyama is a lawyer who studied at a law school of washington univ in 1976 and worked in law office in losangels for 3 years.

University of Washington (Seattle). Washington University (St. Louis) is different but in Japanese both are ワシントン大学 so the confusion is understandable.

So...in his case, the fact that he studied and worked in the US makes his statements and "logic" even more embarrassing?

....are we to buy into the whole bloodline bullshit and start calling Japanese samurai and suggesting that because there are probably a lot of single mazaa working for the post office and if so, a single mazaa might become the next prime minister of Japan. I don't even want to go into the slave issue, see if you can find the slave blood Maruyama speaks of: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Barack_Obama,_Sr.

That's why I said I think he's stupid (maybe ignorant would be the more accurate term) more than racist given Obama's background.

I have no idea what you're trying to say with the single mother analogy but it's not racist to be impressed that the descendant of slaves could be President. If he were assigning negative characteristics to Obama because of that mistaken history it would be a different story.

BTW, wasn't Obama's lack of Negro Cred a fairly serious demerit against him amongst the leadership that values such trifles?

He gets touted as the "first black president™" when he is actually the first mixed president...which I think sounds more "'merica™" than someone who's family has made babies within their race for generations and generations.

When Obama was running there were definitely some black people in the US that said he wasn't black in the American sense because his ancestors weren't slaves.

Saying he's mixed not black in the context of US history is bullshit. Right or wrong in America being even a little black has and does mean you're black to most people.

[kurogane]

That was what I meant regarding that last bit there. I am fond of pointing out that he is as white as he is black, but as a Fo'daN I don't mean it like Matuski seems to, which is fair-minded but historically blind. And Black Crimes do matter, after all.

What I want to know is why either chamber of the Japanese parliament was having a Constitutional Fantasy Camp discussion for intellectually disadvantaged rich kids? I assume we all know that the Washington University outside of Ferguson is a dumping ground for stupes that can pay. U of W being a fine institution, mind.

[matsuki]

according to j-wiki, maruyama is a lawyer who studied at a law school of washington univ in 1976 and worked in law office in losangels for 3 years.

University of Washington (Seattle). Washington University (St. Louis) is different but in Japanese both are ワシントン大学 so the confusion is understandable.

So...in his case, the fact that he studied and worked in the US makes his statements and "logic" even more embarrassing?

....are we to buy into the whole bloodline bullshit and start calling Japanese samurai and suggesting that because there are probably a lot of single mazaa working for the post office and if so, a single mazaa might become the next prime minister of Japan. I don't even want to go into the slave issue, see if you can find the slave blood Maruyama speaks of: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Barack_Obama,_Sr.

That's why I said I think he's stupid (maybe ignorant would be the more accurate term) more than racist given Obama's background.

I have no idea what you're trying to say with the single mother analogy but it's not racist to be impressed that the descendant of slaves could be President. If he were assigning negative characteristics to Obama because of that mistaken history it would be a different story.

Ehhh, besides his really ignorant assumptions, he basically called Obama "a black slave."

Single mother analogy in reference to the House of Representatives claims. US presidents don't get the office because of the number of seats their state (born in? represent? IDK WTF he was trying to say) has in the House of Representatives.

BTW, wasn't Obama's lack of Negro Cred a fairly serious demerit against him amongst the leadership that values such trifles?

He gets touted as the "first black president™" when he is actually the first mixed president...which I think sounds more "'merica™" than someone who's family has made babies within their race for generations and generations.

When Obama was running there were definitely some black people in the US that said he wasn't black in the American sense because his ancestors weren't slaves.

Saying he's mixed not black in the context of US history is bullshit. Right or wrong in America being even a little black has and does mean you're black to most people.[/quote]

While I get what you two are saying and the historical context of it all, you'd think it would be better to make the statement of "mixed" being a better term rather than use some old bullshit race determination to define oneself. I mean, we at least managed to not call the country the United States of India...

[Samurai_Jerk]

While I get what you two are saying and the historical context of it all, you'd think it would be better to make the statement of "mixed" being a better term rather than use some old bullshit race determination to define oneself.

Why? Because it makes you feel better?

First of all, I don't know that Obama strongly self identifies as black and not white. He didn't campaign on being the first black president. It was everyone else that made a big deal out of it. Most people in the US might say that Obama specifically is mixed race because he's famous. However, if he were Joe Blow and you asked the average jagoff on the street who didn't know him what race he was they'd say he was black. And he'd certainly be looked at as black by police officers. I have mixed friends who are whiter than Obama that are still called black by most people even if they don't strongly self identify as such. People who can't figure out what they are usually assume they're Puerto Rican or Dominican and that's only because NYC has lots of Puerto Ricans and Dominicans. If they were in Laurel, Mississippi they'd be black even if they were Doms or PR's.

[matsuki]

I realize all the labeling is not his own doing and personally, I'd feel better if race wasn't part of the equation at all. That being said, as to why I think mixed is a better term...it sends a stronger statement that society accepts mixed people and doesn't need to label/seperate by race.

I'm assuming your're not mixed-race SJ, but being so myself let me just say that I cannot imagine identifying myself as simply one race or another unless I never had any long term meaningful relations with one side of the family or the other. I have friends like yours, who identify the same..not because of their appearance, but because of where and who they grew up with. Seeing as how my parents are still married and I had a decent childhood, I'd feel like I was disowning one side of the family or another if I said I was white or brown. Mixed is more fitting and has a more positive connotation. (yes, it makes me feel better) So apply that to Obama...who''s parents divorced when he was a very small child...and consider he grew up with his white mother and grandparents. I think he'd be hard pressed to identify simply as Black.

[wagyl]

You are forgetting the Indonesian step-father, which makes him a Muslim, the bogeyman of the new Crusades.

[matsuki]

Maybe he does have "black slave blood"

Ancestry.com announced on July 30, 2012, after using a combination of old documents and yDNA analysis, that Dunham's mother may have been descended from African John Punch, who was an indentured servant/slave in seventeenth-century colonial Virginia.

...from his white mom?

[Samurai_Jerk]

I realize all the labeling is not his own doing and personally, I'd feel better if race wasn't part of the equation at all. That being said, as to why I think mixed is a better term...it sends a stronger statement that society accepts mixed people and doesn't need to label/seperate by race.

I'm assuming your're not mixed-race SJ, but being so myself let me just say that I cannot imagine identifying myself as simply one race or another unless I never had any long term meaningful relations with one side of the family or the other. I have friends like yours, who identify the same..not because of their appearance, but because of where and who they grew up with. Seeing as how my parents are still married and I had a decent childhood, I'd feel like I was disowning one side of the family or another if I said I was white or brown. Mixed is more fitting and has a more positive connotation. (yes, it makes me feel better) So apply that to Obama...who''s parents divorced when he was a very small child...and consider he grew up with his white mother and grandparents. I think he'd be hard pressed to identify simply as Black.

I don't see myself as mixed race but I'm impure enough to have been forced to wear a yellow star and eventually shipped off to a concentration camp so if this were Germany in 1939 it wouldn't matter how I self identified, that I was raised Christian, or that I didn't even know my Grandmother was Jewish until I was in my 30's and she had been dead for years. And you know what's funny about that? Some friends who know that now use Jew jokes to break my balls which is really strange for me because I have zero Jewish identity. The cool thing is it gives me carte blanche be antisemitic when I want to.

You might feel mixed is better and that's fine. However, you said he's really the first mixed president not the first black president which isn't true in American society. How you or I feel about it doesn't matter. Racial identity is more social than scientific. If the society at large views someone as a certain race, they're that race in that society. The same way certain people in Japan were considered burakumin and discriminated against until relatively recently despite being ethnically indistinguishable from the population and long after the jobs they once did were no longer considered taboo.

In a lot of Latin American countries it's the opposite. Having some white blood makes you white. In those societies Obama might be seen as white and most mixed people identify as white because it's seen as better than being black or Indian.

[Samurai_Jerk]

So it seems the point Maruyama was clumsily trying to make is that Japan should be more dynamic and open to change the way America is which is how I originally read it. That's why said I didn't think what he said was necessarily racist.

[kurogane]

It never occurred to me that it was, except in that Black in Tokyo hysterical way, and I initially thought it a lovely sentiment that I shared all those years ago. The most racist society in history elected a black man president. We were floored (with joy). But none of that answers the question as to why they were having a 4th grade debate club discussion in parliament. Thanks for the background context info, though.

[Samurai_Jerk]

It never occurred to me that it was, except in that Black in Tokyo hysterical way, and I initially thought it a lovely sentiment that I shared all those years ago. The most racist society in history elected a black man president. We were floored (with joy). But none of that answers the question as to why they were having a 4th grade debate club discussion in parliament. Thanks for the background context info, though.

I read somewhere else that they were discussing changes to the constitution and he was saying the Japan needs to be more dynamic and used the US electing a black man president as an example of how change is good. In that context it doesn't sound so bad. Not sure what change they were debating though.

[Samurai_Jerk]

By the way, I've met Maruyama a couple of times as we belong to the same very elite organization He's not the most diplomatic guy. After nice to meet you he said, "You look like a sumo wrestler."

[kurogane]

I shuddered when I heard of the percentage of The Special Elite that go onto join the US Foreign Service with particular responsibility for East Asia; it's like a Diplomatic Special Olympics, and they even wear the same polos and chino outfits. Anyways, I only shake my head at the absurd non sequitur aspect of the example. I find the example itself quite decent, heartening, and sweet. It is as though Hitler himself had a late change of heart and decided to close the concentration camps before the Soviets even arrived..................
or some such................
The entire scenario is so Kuso Oyaji Speaks on Pondersome Things I feel like a roving reporter for the Ministry of the Bleeding Obvious.

[matsuki]

So it seems the point Maruyama was clumsily trying to make is that Japan should be more dynamic and open to change the way America is which is how I originally read it. That's why said I didn't think what he said was necessarily racist.

I doubt he's some black-hating racist asshole...just seems like a poorly prepared statement, relying on assumptions, and delivered as you say, clumsily, with a typical jiji disregard for details. (which is exactly the type of shit you want to avoid as a politician, especially regarding something sensitive like race.) Anyhow, I give him kudos for his intended message.

[Samurai_Jerk]

For the record I don't look like a sumo wrestler. I'm not tall enough.

[matsuki]

For the record I don't look like a sumo wrestler. I'm not tall enough.

Are you wide enough?

[kurogane]

To be fair, race isn't an issue in Japan outside of assorted FG and Black in Tokyo BBS BS. That's why they can still enjoy the simple pleasure of black face bands.



I get why Americans might cringe, but the one factor far too many Americans forget is that if you're not you probably don't have to care, either way Negroid Americans are just Americans, and all too often they're tested and true RW&B Americunts.

[Samurai_Jerk]

For the record I don't look like a sumo wrestler. I'm not tall enough.

Are you wide enough?

That's the joke.

[Buraku]

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Corona Olympics carried a question

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