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Coligny wrote:legion wrote:Coligny wrote:legion wrote:They were tracking muslim residents of Japan pretty thoroughly without court orders.
[citation needed]
Do you know how to use an internet search engine?
that's not how conversation works... you shit on the carpet, you back your turd...
kurogane wrote:If nothing else you're taking the topic of the thread to heart
Hope, this is Tokyo only. I never carry anything but my little torchlight and a few poopie bags, when I take my doggies for a spin around the 'hood. Would suck, if I had to start to carry my man-purse to the dog-loo.matsuki wrote:one of them happens to be a cop in the area. He gave me an apologetic "sucks to be you but that won't be the last time...we're under orders to stop/search gaijin recently."
Yokohammer wrote:Aw, it's just the cops practicing their "Welcome to Japan" routine in preparation for all the foreigners who'll be rolling in for the 2020 olympics.
Coligny wrote:No idea. maybe one of those laws that are called up only when they need a pretext (in case of really busted light).
Now one bulb darker than the other... unless you dig in the int'l standards that specify the lumens necessary for back license plate lighting and they have the equipment for checking the values on your car... But remember that most dealership offer green backlit plates so the rules seems to be quite ... free flowing...
And one bulb out of 2 while not good for a shiaken should be enough for daily driving. If not, all bulb should always be working not to be risking a fine... I got 7 bulbs for the stop lights... so I'm never gonna sleep again...
Coligny wrote:Did they "ask" if they could search your car ? Because that would be a standard trick.. guilt trip over the tail light then ask to check the car and forget about the bulb/fine.
The kicker being that if they "ask" that mean they might be a bit short on the legal power side. So... stopping you for a dubious reason and performing what might be unauthorized search might start to make a lot...
Coligny wrote:If I remember well the whole stop ID at will works only if you have at least a bicycle or if a crime have been committed nearby no ?
As for the patrol gaijin car stop... Maybe... but from behind not always easy to spot the gaijin...
wuchan wrote:Just whip out your smart phone and take their photo for your records. They always back down before you have a chance to unlock it.
Yokohammer wrote:Aw, it's just the cops practicing their "Welcome to Japan" routine in preparation for all the foreigners who'll be rolling in for the 2020 olympics.
Already had my driving recorder angled to the driver-side window and the rear, caught it all on vid.
matsuki wrote:Coligny wrote:Did they "ask" if they could search your car ? Because that would be a standard trick.. guilt trip over the tail light then ask to check the car and forget about the bulb/fine.
The kicker being that if they "ask" that mean they might be a bit short on the legal power side. So... stopping you for a dubious reason and performing what might be unauthorized search might start to make a lot...
Yes, it was a voluntary search...the last time I refused to do what they wanted me to voluntary, they called for backup and backed a van up to box me in, man handled me, and spent over an hour trying to convince me to do something "voluntarily." I didn't have time for that and was more curious about what they where so sure they would find.
Takechanpoo wrote:an american guy at his 40s sued tokyo metropolis for polices illegal search his car without a search warrant
http://www.sankei.com/affairs/news/1606 ... 27-n1.html
https://www.bengo4.com/kokusai/n_4817/
Yokohammer wrote:Takechanpoo wrote:an american guy at his 40s sued tokyo metropolis for polices illegal search his car without a search warrant
http://www.sankei.com/affairs/news/1606 ... 27-n1.html
https://www.bengo4.com/kokusai/n_4817/
Sounds like that cop is quite an a-hole. 「なんで外人がこの車を運転するの?」is just a really fucking stupid (and racist) thing to say. If everything the guy is claiming is true, I sincerely hope the cop and his boss and his boss's boss get slapped with some meaningful punishment.
wagyl wrote:Well at the very least this suggests that there are no outstanding warrants against you
Yokohammer wrote:Takechanpoo wrote:an american guy at his 40s sued tokyo metropolis for polices illegal search his car without a search warrant
http://www.sankei.com/affairs/news/1606 ... 27-n1.html
https://www.bengo4.com/kokusai/n_4817/
Sounds like that cop is quite an a-hole. 「なんで外人がこの車を運転するの?」is just a really fucking stupid (and racist) thing to say. If everything the guy is claiming is true, I sincerely hope the cop and his boss and his boss's boss get slapped with some meaningful punishment.
yanpa wrote:As an American shurely he should be insisting on the principle of reciprocality regarding appropriate treatment for the misdemeanour of being an ethnically different foreigner and possibly wearing funny clothes while in charge of a functioning metabolism: ...
Yokohammer wrote:yanpa wrote:As an American shurely he should be insisting on the principle of reciprocality regarding appropriate treatment for the misdemeanour of being an ethnically different foreigner and possibly wearing funny clothes while in charge of a functioning metabolism: ...
Not to mention being taken to the police station and interrogated for three and a half hours, and then forced to write an apology for having a multitool with a blade that was probably legal in the car (less than 5cm?). That last bit sounds like they had to do something, anything, to justify putting the guy through all of that for doing absolutely nothing.
Again: if the guy's claims are true. But if he's pursuing a lawsuit against the Tokyo Metropolis, which is not something you'd normally take on lightly, they probably are.
matsuki wrote:wagyl wrote:Well at the very least this suggests that there are no outstanding warrants against you
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He didn't show up at the latest FG/J hockey event...maybe worried I'd be there?Yokohammer wrote:Takechanpoo wrote:an american guy at his 40s sued tokyo metropolis for polices illegal search his car without a search warrant
http://www.sankei.com/affairs/news/1606 ... 27-n1.html
https://www.bengo4.com/kokusai/n_4817/
Sounds like that cop is quite an a-hole. 「なんで外人がこの車を運転するの?」is just a really fucking stupid (and racist) thing to say. If everything the guy is claiming is true, I sincerely hope the cop and his boss and his boss's boss get slapped with some meaningful punishment.
Mine were a bit more polite but the assholes I got a few years ago were literally screaming in my face with shit like "I don't go to your country and refuse the police there! Why are you refusing us?!"Once again, the concept of voluntary is lost on them...
matsuki wrote:Yokohammer wrote:Takechanpoo wrote:an american guy at his 40s sued tokyo metropolis for polices illegal search his car without a search warrant
http://www.sankei.com/affairs/news/1606 ... 27-n1.html
https://www.bengo4.com/kokusai/n_4817/
Sounds like that cop is quite an a-hole. 「なんで外人がこの車を運転するの?」is just a really fucking stupid (and racist) thing to say. If everything the guy is claiming is true, I sincerely hope the cop and his boss and his boss's boss get slapped with some meaningful punishment.
..............Once again, the concept of voluntary is lost on them...
kurogane wrote:PS OOOOK!! CHOTTO MATTA! from reading the second article linked, it would appear our hopes and support might be misplaced:
https://www.bengo4.com/kokusai/n_4817/
米国人男性「警察の違法捜査を受け、PTSDが悪化」慰謝料求め、東京都を提訴
It might be funny to start a crowdsource and buy him a new set of frilly panties and a jaunty hair ribbon for his court appearance.
kurogane wrote:Yes. I think that is how legal cases usually work, isn't it? Frivolous claims of PTSD aside, I wish him luck.
kurogane wrote:Oh sure, I get that. Legal maneuvering or not it's a disgusting trivialisation of a horrid affliction; what happened to him was not traumatic. I would have thought the mention of loss of reputation, time and the inconvenience, along with the basic illegality or impropriety of the search itself would be more than enough in a Japanese court case of this sort. And it would haven't trivialised PTSD, which should not be trivialised at all for any reason.
Yokohammer wrote:kurogane wrote:Oh sure, I get that. Legal maneuvering or not it's a disgusting trivialisation of a horrid affliction; what happened to him was not traumatic. I would have thought the mention of loss of reputation, time and the inconvenience, along with the basic illegality or impropriety of the search itself would be more than enough in a Japanese court case of this sort. And it would haven't trivialised PTSD, which should not be trivialised at all for any reason.
I get what you're saying here too, and agree up to a point, but if bending the definition of PTSD a little contributes to feeding the cop(s) in this case a nice big helping of crow with egg-on-face for dessert, then I'm prepared to let it slide.
~ Tapatalking ~
Wage Slave wrote:Agreed.We do not know what the trauma was or if he has a reliable diagnosis. It may be that there was a significant trauma - Afghanistan and Iraq, among other places, are capable of delivering that. However, if it is affected rather than real PTSD then shame on him - That's as bad or even worse than what the police did.
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