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Re: What kind of TV Streaming Box do I need?

Postby wagyl » Mon Aug 22, 2016 8:04 pm

Do Japanese paper walls have the structural integrity to hold the weight of a drug-dealer size TV?

Personally, I solved the problem by ditching having a TV altogether after my cathode ray tube model died, but I realise that that will not be a solution in this case.
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Re: What kind of TV Streaming Box do I need?

Postby Grumpy Gramps » Mon Aug 22, 2016 8:43 pm

Voice remocon :biggrin2:

But really, I'd welcome anything that reduces the stack of remocons that clutters the house.
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Re: What kind of TV Streaming Box do I need?

Postby wagyl » Mon Aug 22, 2016 9:00 pm

Grumpy Gramps wrote:Voice remocon :biggrin2:

But really, I'd welcome anything that reduces the stack of remocons that clutters the house.

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Re: What kind of TV Streaming Box do I need?

Postby Russell » Mon Aug 22, 2016 10:27 pm

wagyl wrote:Do Japanese paper walls have the structural integrity to hold the weight of a drug-dealer size TV?

It is what is behind the wall that make things hang...
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Re: What kind of TV Streaming Box do I need?

Postby kurogane » Tue Aug 23, 2016 10:00 am

wagyl wrote: Personally, I solved the problem by ditching having a TV altogether after my cathode ray tube model died, but I realise that that will not be a solution in this case.


The real test lies in whether you mention ditching your TV out of context and with obvious smug pride.
HINT: if you do, don't ;) I would never give up a TV, though for the last few years I have been more than happy with whatever is provided by digital rabbit ears. Depending on the weather that's 3 or 4 channels. Just curious, but is that still possible in Japan?
I love this idea of a voice operated Remote: just what the world needs, more people creating noise pollution by yapping at their cherished electronics. :cry:

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The fancy Mondo Sized TV I bought got rid of 2 remotes (cable and VCR use), but that is because it was effectively just an external computer monitor 90% of the time. To watch actual TV only required the main TV remote, but that was due to me using antenna TV not cable or whatever, so for Dear Wifey's needs it does sound like you are stuck with at least 2.
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Re: What kind of TV Streaming Box do I need?

Postby Wage Slave » Tue Aug 23, 2016 10:26 am

Russell wrote:
wagyl wrote:Do Japanese paper walls have the structural integrity to hold the weight of a drug-dealer size TV?

It is what is behind the wall that make things hang...


Incidentally, have you found Sexy House to be a fucking pain in this respect? Relatively few studs placed at irregular intervals because of the light steel cage construction? I got the impression mine is a fair bit older than yours - perhaps that improved?
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Re: What kind of TV Streaming Box do I need?

Postby matsuki » Tue Aug 23, 2016 3:22 pm

Wage Slave wrote:
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wagyl wrote:Do Japanese paper walls have the structural integrity to hold the weight of a drug-dealer size TV?

It is what is behind the wall that make things hang...


Incidentally, have you found Sexy House to be a fucking pain in this respect? Relatively few studs placed at irregular intervals because of the light steel cage construction? I got the impression mine is a fair bit older than yours - perhaps that improved?


Are they even 2x4's or larger?
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Re: What kind of TV Streaming Box do I need?

Postby Wage Slave » Tue Aug 23, 2016 4:13 pm

matsuki wrote:
Wage Slave wrote:
Russell wrote:
wagyl wrote:Do Japanese paper walls have the structural integrity to hold the weight of a drug-dealer size TV?

It is what is behind the wall that make things hang...


Incidentally, have you found Sexy House to be a fucking pain in this respect? Relatively few studs placed at irregular intervals because of the light steel cage construction? I got the impression mine is a fair bit older than yours - perhaps that improved?


Are they even 2x4's or larger?


I don't think they are now you mention it. Not a lot of them anyway. There's only about an inch behind the wall to aim a screw at when there is a stud. There are long horizontals in places but again they pretty thin as well as quite long. They are there just for the plasterboard to attach to so they'll take some weight but not all that much.
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Re: What kind of TV Streaming Box do I need?

Postby matsuki » Tue Aug 23, 2016 4:34 pm

Wage Slave wrote:
matsuki wrote:
Wage Slave wrote:
Russell wrote:
wagyl wrote:Do Japanese paper walls have the structural integrity to hold the weight of a drug-dealer size TV?

It is what is behind the wall that make things hang...


Incidentally, have you found Sexy House to be a fucking pain in this respect? Relatively few studs placed at irregular intervals because of the light steel cage construction? I got the impression mine is a fair bit older than yours - perhaps that improved?


Are they even 2x4's or larger?


I don't think they are now you mention it. Not a lot of them anyway. There's only about an inch behind the wall to aim a screw at when there is a stud. There are long horizontals in places but again they pretty thin as well as quite long. They are there just for the plasterboard to attach to so they'll take some weight but not all that much.


That sucks....

The kitchen remodel I did at the temple home, I had to add a bunch of support for the oven hood. Those things aren't light and the existing twigs behind it would have probably snapped if I had tried to mount it as is.
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Re: What kind of TV Streaming Box do I need?

Postby Wage Slave » Tue Aug 23, 2016 5:10 pm

matsuki wrote:
Wage Slave wrote:
matsuki wrote:
Wage Slave wrote:
Russell wrote:
wagyl wrote:Do Japanese paper walls have the structural integrity to hold the weight of a drug-dealer size TV?

It is what is behind the wall that make things hang...


Incidentally, have you found Sexy House to be a fucking pain in this respect? Relatively few studs placed at irregular intervals because of the light steel cage construction? I got the impression mine is a fair bit older than yours - perhaps that improved?


Are they even 2x4's or larger?


I don't think they are now you mention it. Not a lot of them anyway. There's only about an inch behind the wall to aim a screw at when there is a stud. There are long horizontals in places but again they pretty thin as well as quite long. They are there just for the plasterboard to attach to so they'll take some weight but not all that much.


That sucks....

The kitchen remodel I did at the temple home, I had to add a bunch of support for the oven hood. Those things aren't light and the existing twigs behind it would have probably snapped if I had tried to mount it as is.


It's not ideal - Although perhaps plasterboard is more robust than we give it credit for. They happily use those plastic spiral plasterboard fittings to hang airconditioners. But yeah, If I were looking to hang a drug dealer TV on my lounge wall, I think I would be looking at fitting a piece of ply or something secured to a couple of studs, horizontals and with a few extra plasterboard fittings as well.

At least with Sexy you have the benefit of that very strong and very flexible light steel frame holding the entire house together and up.
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Re: What kind of TV Streaming Box do I need?

Postby matsuki » Tue Aug 23, 2016 5:36 pm

Depends on the thickness but in my current apartment, it's so thin that everything they have screwed into it is falling out of the wall. Not a good long term plan...
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Re: What kind of TV Streaming Box do I need?

Postby Coligny » Tue Aug 23, 2016 5:55 pm

Made a 20x30 hole in the plasterwalls of the bunker yesterday... wheeled furniture got bumped and knocked the hole clean...

I think I can drill them with mah dick... maybe a new pron trend to start... after penis puppetry, penis carpentry...

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Postby matsuki » Tue Aug 23, 2016 10:20 pm

You're going to need a good macro lens for that! :-D
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Re: What kind of TV Streaming Box do I need?

Postby Russell » Tue Aug 23, 2016 10:56 pm

Wage Slave wrote:
Russell wrote:
wagyl wrote:Do Japanese paper walls have the structural integrity to hold the weight of a drug-dealer size TV?

It is what is behind the wall that make things hang...


Incidentally, have you found Sexy House to be a fucking pain in this respect? Relatively few studs placed at irregular intervals because of the light steel cage construction? I got the impression mine is a fair bit older than yours - perhaps that improved?

I remember mine is from around 1998 or so.

Studs in my Sexy House are not so badly placed and tend to be regular. But anyway, I have a range of stud finders to let me cope with all types of situations.
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Re: What kind of TV Streaming Box do I need?

Postby Russell » Tue Aug 23, 2016 11:08 pm

Wage Slave wrote:
matsuki wrote:
Wage Slave wrote:
Russell wrote:
wagyl wrote:Do Japanese paper walls have the structural integrity to hold the weight of a drug-dealer size TV?

It is what is behind the wall that make things hang...


Incidentally, have you found Sexy House to be a fucking pain in this respect? Relatively few studs placed at irregular intervals because of the light steel cage construction? I got the impression mine is a fair bit older than yours - perhaps that improved?


Are they even 2x4's or larger?


I don't think they are now you mention it. Not a lot of them anyway. There's only about an inch behind the wall to aim a screw at when there is a stud. There are long horizontals in places but again they pretty thin as well as quite long. They are there just for the plasterboard to attach to so they'll take some weight but not all that much.

The studs in my house are 1 by 1 inch square hollow pipes made from steel of around 1mm thick. Most of them are vertical, but occasionally I find horizontal ones.

I would feel comfortable to hang a TV from them (though it depends on the size of the TV).
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Re: What kind of TV Streaming Box do I need?

Postby Wage Slave » Wed Aug 24, 2016 12:07 am

Russell wrote:
Wage Slave wrote:
matsuki wrote:
Wage Slave wrote:
Russell wrote:
wagyl wrote:Do Japanese paper walls have the structural integrity to hold the weight of a drug-dealer size TV?

It is what is behind the wall that make things hang...


Incidentally, have you found Sexy House to be a fucking pain in this respect? Relatively few studs placed at irregular intervals because of the light steel cage construction? I got the impression mine is a fair bit older than yours - perhaps that improved?


Are they even 2x4's or larger?


I don't think they are now you mention it. Not a lot of them anyway. There's only about an inch behind the wall to aim a screw at when there is a stud. There are long horizontals in places but again they pretty thin as well as quite long. They are there just for the plasterboard to attach to so they'll take some weight but not all that much.

The studs in my house are 1 by 1 inch square hollow pipes made from steel of around 1mm thick. Most of them are vertical, but occasionally I find horizontal ones.

I would feel comfortable to hang a TV from them (though it depends on the size of the TV).


Are they steel? Away from the corners I thought most of mine were wood. I've certainly used woodscrews to hang a kitchen cabinet. And to secure a display cabinet. Hmm. Mine is about 1989. Perhaps that's why.

Anyway, how do you fix? Drill and then self tappers? Do they hold as well as woodscrews?
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Re: What kind of TV Streaming Box do I need?

Postby Russell » Wed Aug 24, 2016 6:58 am

Wage Slave wrote:
Russell wrote:
Wage Slave wrote:
matsuki wrote:
Wage Slave wrote:
Russell wrote:
wagyl wrote:Do Japanese paper walls have the structural integrity to hold the weight of a drug-dealer size TV?

It is what is behind the wall that make things hang...


Incidentally, have you found Sexy House to be a fucking pain in this respect? Relatively few studs placed at irregular intervals because of the light steel cage construction? I got the impression mine is a fair bit older than yours - perhaps that improved?


Are they even 2x4's or larger?


I don't think they are now you mention it. Not a lot of them anyway. There's only about an inch behind the wall to aim a screw at when there is a stud. There are long horizontals in places but again they pretty thin as well as quite long. They are there just for the plasterboard to attach to so they'll take some weight but not all that much.

The studs in my house are 1 by 1 inch square hollow pipes made from steel of around 1mm thick. Most of them are vertical, but occasionally I find horizontal ones.

I would feel comfortable to hang a TV from them (though it depends on the size of the TV).


Are they steel? Away from the corners I thought most of mine were wood. I've certainly used woodscrews to hang a kitchen cabinet. And to secure a display cabinet. Hmm. Mine is about 1989. Perhaps that's why.

Anyway, how do you fix? Drill and then self tappers? Do they hold as well as woodscrews?

Yep, I drill a small hole and use self-tapping wood screws.

I have a pic of the studs somewhere, but it may be hard to find, so I will go up to the attic to take another one when the weather is less hot.
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Re: What kind of TV Streaming Box do I need?

Postby Wage Slave » Wed Aug 24, 2016 10:20 am

Russell wrote:
Wage Slave wrote:
Russell wrote:
Wage Slave wrote:
matsuki wrote:
Wage Slave wrote:
Russell wrote:
wagyl wrote:Do Japanese paper walls have the structural integrity to hold the weight of a drug-dealer size TV?

It is what is behind the wall that make things hang...


Incidentally, have you found Sexy House to be a fucking pain in this respect? Relatively few studs placed at irregular intervals because of the light steel cage construction? I got the impression mine is a fair bit older than yours - perhaps that improved?


Are they even 2x4's or larger?


I don't think they are now you mention it. Not a lot of them anyway. There's only about an inch behind the wall to aim a screw at when there is a stud. There are long horizontals in places but again they pretty thin as well as quite long. They are there just for the plasterboard to attach to so they'll take some weight but not all that much.

The studs in my house are 1 by 1 inch square hollow pipes made from steel of around 1mm thick. Most of them are vertical, but occasionally I find horizontal ones.

I would feel comfortable to hang a TV from them (though it depends on the size of the TV).


Are they steel? Away from the corners I thought most of mine were wood. I've certainly used woodscrews to hang a kitchen cabinet. And to secure a display cabinet. Hmm. Mine is about 1989. Perhaps that's why.

Anyway, how do you fix? Drill and then self tappers? Do they hold as well as woodscrews?

Yep, I drill a small hole and use self-tapping wood screws.

I have a pic of the studs somewhere, but it may be hard to find, so I will go up to the attic to take another one when the weather is less hot.


Thank you, that's useful. One of those things that had never occurred to me and would have caused quite a bit of puzzling and faff. So far, I have always been able to find a wooden stud or been able to use plasterboard anchors because the load isn't that high. At least the plasterboard is decent quality and 10mm thick.

I think in my place the internal walls are all wooden studs but not that hefty. Good enough for things like mirrors and pictures but bookshelves maybe not. External walls seem to have a bit of a mix. Larger wood around doors and windows. Steel near the corners and thinner wood in between at not very regular intervals cos they aren't really structural. And of course there are some horizontals to stiffen large areas of plasterboard/exterior wall where there aren't many studs.

That's the thing with Sexy. On the plus side the quality of the materials and design is good, excellent by local standards. But, everything is a bit non standard and difficult to work with unless you are privy to Sexy's secrets and special custom supplies.
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Re: What kind of TV Streaming Box do I need?

Postby Russell » Wed Aug 24, 2016 10:39 pm

Wage Slave wrote:
Russell wrote:
Wage Slave wrote:
Russell wrote:
Wage Slave wrote:
matsuki wrote:
Wage Slave wrote:
Russell wrote:
wagyl wrote:Do Japanese paper walls have the structural integrity to hold the weight of a drug-dealer size TV?

It is what is behind the wall that make things hang...


Incidentally, have you found Sexy House to be a fucking pain in this respect? Relatively few studs placed at irregular intervals because of the light steel cage construction? I got the impression mine is a fair bit older than yours - perhaps that improved?


Are they even 2x4's or larger?


I don't think they are now you mention it. Not a lot of them anyway. There's only about an inch behind the wall to aim a screw at when there is a stud. There are long horizontals in places but again they pretty thin as well as quite long. They are there just for the plasterboard to attach to so they'll take some weight but not all that much.

The studs in my house are 1 by 1 inch square hollow pipes made from steel of around 1mm thick. Most of them are vertical, but occasionally I find horizontal ones.

I would feel comfortable to hang a TV from them (though it depends on the size of the TV).


Are they steel? Away from the corners I thought most of mine were wood. I've certainly used woodscrews to hang a kitchen cabinet. And to secure a display cabinet. Hmm. Mine is about 1989. Perhaps that's why.

Anyway, how do you fix? Drill and then self tappers? Do they hold as well as woodscrews?

Yep, I drill a small hole and use self-tapping wood screws.

I have a pic of the studs somewhere, but it may be hard to find, so I will go up to the attic to take another one when the weather is less hot.


Thank you, that's useful. One of those things that had never occurred to me and would have caused quite a bit of puzzling and faff. So far, I have always been able to find a wooden stud or been able to use plasterboard anchors because the load isn't that high. At least the plasterboard is decent quality and 10mm thick.

I think in my place the internal walls are all wooden studs but not that hefty. Good enough for things like mirrors and pictures but bookshelves maybe not. External walls seem to have a bit of a mix. Larger wood around doors and windows. Steel near the corners and thinner wood in between at not very regular intervals cos they aren't really structural. And of course there are some horizontals to stiffen large areas of plasterboard/exterior wall where there aren't many studs.

That's the thing with Sexy. On the plus side the quality of the materials and design is good, excellent by local standards. But, everything is a bit non standard and difficult to work with unless you are privy to Sexy's secrets and special custom supplies.

I found them quite helpful when I needed some of those supplies, or even just advice on my home. And I didn't even buy my home new from them.
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Re: What kind of TV Streaming Box do I need?

Postby Wage Slave » Wed Aug 24, 2016 11:01 pm

Russell wrote:
Wage Slave wrote:
Russell wrote:
Wage Slave wrote:
Russell wrote:
Wage Slave wrote:
matsuki wrote:
Wage Slave wrote:
Russell wrote:
wagyl wrote:Do Japanese paper walls have the structural integrity to hold the weight of a drug-dealer size TV?

It is what is behind the wall that make things hang...


Incidentally, have you found Sexy House to be a fucking pain in this respect? Relatively few studs placed at irregular intervals because of the light steel cage construction? I got the impression mine is a fair bit older than yours - perhaps that improved?


Are they even 2x4's or larger?


I don't think they are now you mention it. Not a lot of them anyway. There's only about an inch behind the wall to aim a screw at when there is a stud. There are long horizontals in places but again they pretty thin as well as quite long. They are there just for the plasterboard to attach to so they'll take some weight but not all that much.

The studs in my house are 1 by 1 inch square hollow pipes made from steel of around 1mm thick. Most of them are vertical, but occasionally I find horizontal ones.

I would feel comfortable to hang a TV from them (though it depends on the size of the TV).


Are they steel? Away from the corners I thought most of mine were wood. I've certainly used woodscrews to hang a kitchen cabinet. And to secure a display cabinet. Hmm. Mine is about 1989. Perhaps that's why.

Anyway, how do you fix? Drill and then self tappers? Do they hold as well as woodscrews?

Yep, I drill a small hole and use self-tapping wood screws.

I have a pic of the studs somewhere, but it may be hard to find, so I will go up to the attic to take another one when the weather is less hot.


Thank you, that's useful. One of those things that had never occurred to me and would have caused quite a bit of puzzling and faff. So far, I have always been able to find a wooden stud or been able to use plasterboard anchors because the load isn't that high. At least the plasterboard is decent quality and 10mm thick.

I think in my place the internal walls are all wooden studs but not that hefty. Good enough for things like mirrors and pictures but bookshelves maybe not. External walls seem to have a bit of a mix. Larger wood around doors and windows. Steel near the corners and thinner wood in between at not very regular intervals cos they aren't really structural. And of course there are some horizontals to stiffen large areas of plasterboard/exterior wall where there aren't many studs.

That's the thing with Sexy. On the plus side the quality of the materials and design is good, excellent by local standards. But, everything is a bit non standard and difficult to work with unless you are privy to Sexy's secrets and special custom supplies.

I found them quite helpful when I needed some of those supplies, or even just advice on my home. And I didn't even buy my home new from them.


Oh yes, Me too. Extremely helpful. But they charge like wounded bulls.
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Re: What kind of TV Streaming Box do I need?

Postby Coligny » Thu Aug 25, 2016 1:06 am

Wage Slave wrote:
Russell wrote:
Wage Slave wrote:
Russell wrote:
Wage Slave wrote:
Russell wrote:
Wage Slave wrote:
matsuki wrote:
Wage Slave wrote:
Russell wrote:
wagyl wrote:Do Japanese paper walls have the structural integrity to hold the weight of a drug-dealer size TV?

It is what is behind the wall that make things hang...


Incidentally, have you found Sexy House to be a fucking pain in this respect? Relatively few studs placed at irregular intervals because of the light steel cage construction? I got the impression mine is a fair bit older than yours - perhaps that improved?


Are they even 2x4's or larger?


I don't think they are now you mention it. Not a lot of them anyway. There's only about an inch behind the wall to aim a screw at when there is a stud. There are long horizontals in places but again they pretty thin as well as quite long. They are there just for the plasterboard to attach to so they'll take some weight but not all that much.

The studs in my house are 1 by 1 inch square hollow pipes made from steel of around 1mm thick. Most of them are vertical, but occasionally I find horizontal ones.

I would feel comfortable to hang a TV from them (though it depends on the size of the TV).


Are they steel? Away from the corners I thought most of mine were wood. I've certainly used woodscrews to hang a kitchen cabinet. And to secure a display cabinet. Hmm. Mine is about 1989. Perhaps that's why.

Anyway, how do you fix? Drill and then self tappers? Do they hold as well as woodscrews?

Yep, I drill a small hole and use self-tapping wood screws.

I have a pic of the studs somewhere, but it may be hard to find, so I will go up to the attic to take another one when the weather is less hot.


Thank you, that's useful. One of those things that had never occurred to me and would have caused quite a bit of puzzling and faff. So far, I have always been able to find a wooden stud or been able to use plasterboard anchors because the load isn't that high. At least the plasterboard is decent quality and 10mm thick.

I think in my place the internal walls are all wooden studs but not that hefty. Good enough for things like mirrors and pictures but bookshelves maybe not. External walls seem to have a bit of a mix. Larger wood around doors and windows. Steel near the corners and thinner wood in between at not very regular intervals cos they aren't really structural. And of course there are some horizontals to stiffen large areas of plasterboard/exterior wall where there aren't many studs.

That's the thing with Sexy. On the plus side the quality of the materials and design is good, excellent by local standards. But, everything is a bit non standard and difficult to work with unless you are privy to Sexy's secrets and special custom supplies.

I found them quite helpful when I needed some of those supplies, or even just advice on my home. And I didn't even buy my home new from them.


Oh yes, Me too. Extremely helpful. But they charge like wounded bulls.


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Re: What kind of TV Streaming Box do I need?

Postby legion » Thu Aug 25, 2016 8:46 pm

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I am a bit lost here and would appreciate some pointers in the right direction, tv is not my world anymore.


Me neither, is there an app that streams shit right into your brain yet?
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Re: What kind of TV Streaming Box do I need?

Postby Grumpy Gramps » Thu Aug 25, 2016 9:52 pm

Kodi is, what they talk about these days, which seems to be cross-platform. Short of in your brain, it can maybe be installed in one of these 3d computer display glasses thingamajigs or the like?
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