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Re: Those Koreans got a lot of nerve

Postby Takechanpoo » Wed Oct 12, 2016 1:11 pm


korean the insistent crazy monster claimer is exploding the inferiority complex at its best.
as you dudes do know, they become most energetic or vital at the state of being "victim". they will never cease to seek for the reason to make them "victim" for good.
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Re: Those Koreans got a lot of nerve

Postby Takechanpoo » Wed Oct 19, 2016 7:29 pm

a scoop about keio universitys gang rape incident by weekly "sentence spring"
「両親は韓国人で、小学校の頃に日本に来たはずです。高校時代は野球部で、一浪して慶應に入った。現在2年生ですが、酒に強いことを見込まれ、広研では日吉キャンパスの責任者を任されていた」

 このSこそが、“集団強姦”事件当日、「後片付け」を名目にA子さんを「合宿所」に呼び出し、飲酒を強要、2人の1年生男子がA子さんをレイプしている間、これを撮影したのみならず、事件を表沙汰にしないようA子さんを脅すようなメッセージまで送ったのである。

「それどころか、『ミスコンが中止になったのは、(事件を公にした)お前のせい』という内容のLINEをA子さんに送って、ミスコンのファイナリストたちに謝るよう強要したんです」(A子さんの知人)

http://shukan.bunshun.jp/articles/-/6690
"the principal offender "S", according to Ss friend, whose both parents are korean, came to japan when he was in elementary school. he is a sophomore and is appointed the supervisor of the circle in hiyoshi campus of keio univ. this guy called the victim girl to the boardinghouse for cleaning in the very day of the gang rape incident and forced her to drink alcohol. while two freshmen were raping her, the principal offender filmed it. in addition he threatened her to not go public the incident."

another fuel for netouyos :smoking:
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Re: Those Koreans got a lot of nerve

Postby TennoChinko » Wed Oct 19, 2016 8:07 pm

Takechanpoo wrote:a scoop about keio universitys gang rape incident by weekly "sentence spring"
「両親は韓国人で、小学校の頃に日本に来たはずです。高校時代は野球部で、一浪して慶應に入った。現在2年生ですが、酒に強いことを見込まれ、広研では日吉キャンパスの責任者を任されていた」

 このSこそが、“集団強姦”事件当日、「後片付け」を名目にA子さんを「合宿所」に呼び出し、飲酒を強要、2人の1年生男子がA子さんをレイプしている間、これを撮影したのみならず、事件を表沙汰にしないようA子さんを脅すようなメッセージまで送ったのである。

「それどころか、『ミスコンが中止になったのは、(事件を公にした)お前のせい』という内容のLINEをA子さんに送って、ミスコンのファイナリストたちに謝るよう強要したんです」(A子さんの知人)

http://shukan.bunshun.jp/articles/-/6690
"the principal offender "S", according to Ss friend, whose both parents are korean, came to japan when he was in elementary school. he is a sophomore and is appointed the supervisor of the circle in hiyoshi campus of keio univ. this guy called the victim girl to the boardinghouse for cleaning in the very day of the gang rape incident and forced her to drink alcohol. while two freshmen were raping her, the principal offender filmed it. in addition he threatened her to not go public the incident."

another fuel for netouyos :smoking:


Check out the current wiki ( Japanese language version, not English) for the 2000 Lucy Blackman murder...all references to the rapist/killer ... also an ethnic Korean Keio alumnus...Joji Obara aka Kim Sung Jong ... plus some other fake Japanese name in between "Kim" and "Obara" ... you will see all references to Joji Obara have been deleted along with an explanation that despite his conviction, such details ( including the conviction ?) were the product of discrimination against Koteans...

At least this didn't seem to get censored ..yet

Tokyo cops nab Korean national in rape of woman
http://www.tokyoreporter.com/2016/10/14 ... -of-woman/


アパートに侵入、女性暴行し現金盗む 容疑で韓国籍の男を逮捕
http://www.sankei.com/affairs/news/1610 ... 19-n1.html
http://archive.is/3YBae
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Re: Those Koreans got a lot of nerve

Postby TennoChinko » Wed Oct 19, 2016 8:20 pm

So which one of the guys in the front is "S" / Rape Man?
( the one on far left or the one second from right?)

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Re: Those Koreans got a lot of nerve

Postby wangta » Thu Oct 20, 2016 12:52 am

The bloke second from right just does not look Korean to me.
If the rapist is in the front row it looks like the other bloke you mentioned.
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Re: Those Koreans got a lot of nerve

Postby wangta » Thu Oct 20, 2016 1:11 am

Takechanpoo wrote:
Fifteen women were arrested and eight brothels were shut down last month in northwest Dallas as part of a sex-trafficking investigation, authorities say.

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http://www.dallasnews.com/news/crime/he ... busted.ece comfort women got busted again and again...its endless....and of course they had been disguising themselves as japanese women, i do guess.


Look, I know very well that Korean nationals are on some other countries' watchlists for being likely to buy businesses for the purposes of trafficking women and supplying them to Korean 'tourists,' and that female Korean international students' visa applications are studied carefully by Immigration authorities in countries like Canada, the USA, the UK,Oz, and NZ because of the way in which they are linked with scams involving bringing prostitutes into those countries.

However, the understandable uproar in Korea about the comfort women ( aside from Korean hypocrisy in refusing to recognise the eager collaboration of certain Koreans) is mostly due to the unbelievable callousness and amorality of Japanese politicians like the undertaker-looking Abe, the chimp-looking Aso, right wingers masquerading as independents like the Mayor of Tokyo, Koike, scummy bastard right wingers holding positions on the board of what is supposed to be a public broadcaster like NHK, etc, actually claiming or in the case of Koike giving comfort and support to textbook censorship before, that these Korean women were 'mere prostitutes' who were continually confined and assaulted physically and sexually by numerous Japanese military personnel both in high and low ranks BY CONSENT. :evil:

How fucking evil to promote this lie and to portray Korean women enslaved in this way by a number of different circumstances - threatened violence, actual violence, and absolute despair because of poverty and hunger in a nightmare world of oppression and war. The fruit doesn't fall far from the tree in the case of Abe, Aso and a long list of Jiminto politicians whose grandparents were in fact Class A War Criminals but mostly escaped penalties including the death penalty, while an example was made by the Allies against some who in fact or most likely did less than those rotten apologies for human beings.
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Re: Those Koreans got a lot of nerve

Postby Takechanpoo » Thu Oct 20, 2016 2:01 am

am utterly appalled at your insufficient study about comfort women.
part of them were undoubtedly professional whores. another part of them were sold by their own parents and became it. another part of them became it through the snow job by their acquaintances or pimps. it has not yet been confirmed that any korean women directly got kidnapped by j-military guys and were forced to be comfort women. you do need to clearly distinguish between rationality and emotion to properly understand this issue.
http://scholarsinenglish.blogspot.jp/?m=0
http://www.howitzer.jp/korea/page03.html
http://texas-daddy.com/comfortwomen.htm
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Re: Those Koreans got a lot of nerve

Postby Takechanpoo » Thu Oct 20, 2016 2:06 am

TennoChinko wrote:So which one of the guys in the front is "S" / Rape Man?
( the one on far left or the one second from right?)

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im sure this guy did.
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the square-jaw...typical
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Re: Those Koreans got a lot of nerve

Postby matsuki » Thu Oct 20, 2016 11:49 am

Please Take....ztop..

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Re: Those Koreans got a lot of nerve

Postby Takechanpoo » Thu Oct 20, 2016 1:13 pm

typical korean guys face types
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Re: Those Koreans got a lot of nerve

Postby TennoChinko » Thu Oct 20, 2016 1:15 pm

Takechanpoo wrote:
TennoChinko wrote:So which one of the guys in the front is "S" / Rape Man?
( the one on far left or the one second from right?)

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im sure this guy did.
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the square-jaw...typical
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Gangnam bibimbap...err, nida...


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Re: Those Koreans got a lot of nerve

Postby wangta » Thu Oct 27, 2016 8:03 pm

Takechanpoo wrote:am utterly appalled at your insufficient study about comfort women.
part of them were undoubtedly professional whores. another part of them were sold by their own parents and became it. another part of them became it through the snow job by their acquaintances or pimps. it has not yet been confirmed that any korean women directly got kidnapped by j-military guys and were forced to be comfort women. you do need to clearly distinguish between rationality and emotion to properly understand this issue.
http://scholarsinenglish.blogspot.jp/?m=0
http://www.howitzer.jp/korea/page03.html
http://texas-daddy.com/comfortwomen.htm


And you still don't fucking get it. Girls and young women have been sold by their families since just about the first time sex for something in exchange was invented. However, that doesn't mean that there was consent by the girls and women. It also doesn't mean that life was so wonderful that families resorted to such actions for food or later for money.

It's true that some cultures sold their females for benefits and had an attitude that this was just one of those things. But we're talking here about the recent past and modern warfare with all its evils. Military occupations are always marked by a sharp increase in prostitution as that is what families and sometimes the women themselves do to survive. It's cruel and it's a cruel fact of life in extreme situations but those with any kind of power who bring about this should not be excused.

It's incredibly sad that this happens. And to deny that the real threat of violence or death is absent and was absent from those setting up the Imperial Japanese brothels in Korea and other areas occupied by the Japanese in WW2 (the Dutch East Indies for example) is completely false and also deluded. So many Japanese like you chose delusion over reality so I'm glad for once at the Korean persistence and emoting over this issue. They also need to clean their own house re the collaborators who helped set up the brothels but that doesn't lower the responsibility of Imperial Japan.

The Japanese also need to start growing up and admitting some historical facts. Japanese families in Tokyo sold their females to brothels after WW2 to service the American Army etc. The Allied occupation authorities bear responsibility for this along with the ever helpful Japanese Yakuza who always have and always will treat women including Japanese women as trash with a sexual purpose.
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Re: Those Koreans got a lot of nerve

Postby Takechanpoo » Thu Oct 27, 2016 9:10 pm

you mean the coercion in a broad sense, right? Japan, except for the far right guys, has not denied the coercion in a broad sense about comfort women as the official opinion. but according to korea and china, 20 thousand women(they never have indicated the grounds for the number) got kidnapped by j-soldiers and forced them to be sex slaves. and their nationals seriously believe that the ridiculously exaggerated version of the issue.https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Spirits'_Homecoming

there are roughly 3 positions about this issue.
1. coercion in a narrow sense(j-soldiers directly kidnapped and forced the women to be sex slaves)
2. coercion in a broad sense(the women became whore through snow jobs by pimps<ironically almost all of the pimps were korean> or their friends and they could not quit the job despite of the fact they told wanted to quit afterwards. kono statement and murayama statement are based on this position)
3. no coercion. (they were all professional whores and earned ton of money)

japan and korean government found common ground at the position 2 but their national strongly opposed to it because they blindly believes all of the comfort women were position 1. on the other hand, far right japanese believe all of the women were position 3.
in my personal opinion, the actual is that the 3 positions were mixed and the percentages of the each position will never become clear. and we should make position 2 the common ground and finish this issue. but k-nationals never try to get convinced with it because they blindly believes their fantasy based on position 3with their usual schizophrenic confidence. :puke:
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Re: Those Koreans got a lot of nerve

Postby wangta » Thu Oct 27, 2016 11:12 pm

Look man, I appreciate that you have sat down and written a reasonable reply to me. But maybe the misunderstanding is in the word 'kidnap'.

I think in Jp it's yukai but the point the Koreans and others (there was a delegation of 'comfort women' who were forced into brothels in Pacific areas, to Tokyo about more than 15 yrs ago) are making is that labelling the systematic Imperial Japanese brothel system in Korea (and Manchuria) and other parts of Asia as 'voluntary' is shameful and vile propaganda.

Coercion isn't just about looking down the barrel of a gun. It goes with a structure of abuse, of violence, of threats, of death, that is usual in wartime and was witnessed and experienced in the worst possible ways during World War 2. I don't believe the 'Korean women were just doing the usual profession' stereotype. Just like the women in other parts of Asia. There was a woman who later became an Aussie citizen and she spent the rest of her life campaigning against the disgusting propaganda of past Jp governments and the attempts to censor that history in Japan.

Her name was Jan Ruff O'Hearne and she was no prostitute until forced into brothels like so many others under Japanese rule. The sad abuse of Japanese females, young and older, who were sold by their starving families to brothels to 'service' the Allied troops occupying Japan after WW2 is another horrible fact. Angela Merkel has summarised the attitude still going on in Japan especially with the celebration of war crime by the cunt Abe - "Germany has looked honestly at its past and changed, and Japan needs to do that too."

Merkel might be a fool for letting in millions of able bodied Syrians and others who should be fighting to defend their countries instead of leeching off Germany but she is absolutely spot-on about Japan's ongoing conflict with historical truth.
The Prime Cunt was photographed with the SDFA recently and they were flying the Japanese war flag. Ignorant bastards.
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Re: Those Koreans got a lot of nerve

Postby Takechanpoo » Thu Oct 27, 2016 11:41 pm

I don't believe the 'Korean women were just doing the usual profession' stereotype.

this convinces me that your naturally biased "liberal" brain hasnt read and also even think no worth to read the japanese side documents and researches. there are the payslips of the part of comfort women exactly left, in which read they earned several times money than the imperial university graduated j-elites monthly salary. its totally no room to doubt that some of those comfort women are professional whores, as i have insisted ever.

ps why the fuck wanna-be or would-be liberal guys cant see things dryly and coldly? eh?
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Re: Those Koreans got a lot of nerve

Postby Yokohammer » Fri Oct 28, 2016 7:05 am

Take-chan,

One point you need to acknowledge is that, just because those women were paid, or even paid well, doesn't mean that they weren't forced. Payment has nothing to do with it. The mere existence of pay slips mean even less. You can force someone to do something against their will and then pay them, and it will still be a violation of their dignity and human rights. In some ways, saying "but I paid her!" as a way of absolving yourself of abuse is even more damning.
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Re: Those Koreans got a lot of nerve

Postby matsuki » Fri Oct 28, 2016 9:36 am

Take, we're all plenty aware of the exaggeration and victim complex within China, Korea, and yes, Japan. No doubt you are right when you say "the actual is that the 3 positions were mixed and the percentages of the each position will never become clear" but when it comes to discussing responsibility, it wouldn't ever have become an issue without the invasion/takeover/sudden massive J-demand for whores. So when Japan reflects on these women, there is no bowing halfway or picking at details. Just be sorry about the whole thing and move on regardless of if the victim's own people and the own gov are not accepting responsibility for their parts as well. (they look like total assholes for not accepting responsibility)
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Re: Those Koreans got a lot of nerve

Postby kurogane » Fri Oct 28, 2016 2:03 pm

I agree with what you guys are saying, but I think you are forgetting the first rule of impotent male logic: if any part of an argument, no matter how minor, tangential or trivial, can be shown to be less than 100% verifable or consistent it necessarily negates the argument in its entirety. The mental key seems to be that the slightest appearance of doubt or contradiction sets off their internal impotence alarm and triggers an almost masculine aggression response, at least until they go back to drooling over their lolita porn.
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Re: Those Koreans got a lot of nerve

Postby matsuki » Fri Oct 28, 2016 4:06 pm

AKA, the Japaneeeeze "loophole" method
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Re: Those Koreans got a lot of nerve

Postby Samurai_Jerk » Fri Oct 28, 2016 4:22 pm

Yokohammer wrote:Take-chan,

One point you need to acknowledge is that, just because those women were paid, or even paid well, doesn't mean that they weren't forced. Payment has nothing to do with it. The mere existence of pay slips mean even less. You can force someone to do something against their will and then pay them, and it will still be a violation of their dignity and human rights. In some ways, saying "but I paid her!" as a way of absolving yourself of abuse is even more damning.


The argument that they weren't slaves because their parents sold them is mind boggling. I thought buying and selling someone was the definition of slavery. The relation to the seller has nothing to do with it and that relation doesn't exonerate the buyer.

You're very right about payment being proof of nothing other than people being paid. Even in case of the chattel slavery of the antebellum South slaves were sometimes paid by their masters and could even take side jobs for a little extra money. Of course master got his cut. Slaves are not free but that doesn't mean they have zero freedom within the confines of whatever system enslaves them. Their lives might be miserable but that doesn't mean they have zero joy or that they even realize how bad they have it. You might be born into it and not realize there's any other way, you might be brainwashed into accepting your fate, or you might be coerced into staying put even though the occasional opportunity to escape seems to present itself.

People often imagine that slaves are locked in cages and beaten mercilessly all the time. Not only is that logistically impossible in a lot cases, it doesn't work if you want a healthy population of willing and able workers. The reason people imagine this is because it's the only way they could imagine themselves being kept in slavery. Just like they don't think they could ever be pressured into giving a false confession. Those same people who even though they are legally free men and women stay at shitty jobs, with horrible bosses, for low wages. Now imagine if trying to quit could get your beaten or killed.
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Re: Those Koreans got a lot of nerve

Postby matsuki » Fri Oct 28, 2016 4:46 pm

Samurai_Jerk wrote: Now imagine if trying to quit could get your beaten or killed.


Not if anyone has ever been killed but I've heard of a boss giving the ol DV to a subordinate who is trying to give his/her notice here. "They won't let me quit!" :???:
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Re: Those Koreans got a lot of nerve

Postby Samurai_Jerk » Fri Oct 28, 2016 5:52 pm

matsuki wrote:
Samurai_Jerk wrote: Now imagine if trying to quit could get your beaten or killed.


Not if anyone has ever been killed but I've heard of a boss giving the ol DV to a subordinate who is trying to give his/her notice here. "They won't let me quit!" :???:


Beating someone at work isn't domestic violence unless maybe you work from home.

Anyway, as usual you're missing the point.
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Re: Those Koreans got a lot of nerve

Postby Takechanpoo » Fri Oct 28, 2016 7:32 pm

i wholeheartedly envy your past victims, who got abused and hunted ruthlessly like wild animals by the part of your ancestors, are not as noisy, persistent and crazy about your past evil deeds as schizophrenic korean(yeah i understand chinese are noisy about the past j-evil deeds and they also should keep being noisy from now on). and the attitude of you dudes about it is "wake not a sleeping lion" and behave like an angel. i fucking really envy you dudes can keep such an attitude from the bottom of my heart. yeah really
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Re: Those Koreans got a lot of nerve

Postby matsuki » Fri Oct 28, 2016 11:00 pm

Samurai_Jerk wrote:
matsuki wrote:
Samurai_Jerk wrote: Now imagine if trying to quit could get your beaten or killed.


Not if anyone has ever been killed but I've heard of a boss giving the ol DV to a subordinate who is trying to give his/her notice here. "They won't let me quit!" :???:


Beating someone at work isn't domestic violence unless maybe you work from home


Try telling the locals that...might want to educate them on what VTR stands for as well.

Samurai_Jerk wrote:Anyway, as usual you're missing the point.


No, just going off on a tangent.
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Re: Those Koreans got a lot of nerve

Postby Wage Slave » Fri Oct 28, 2016 11:13 pm

OK, so I'm outdated but since so apparently is Google and the acronym guides - what does VTR stand for? Apart from Video Tape Recorder and Varmint Tactical Rifle.
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Re: Those Koreans got a lot of nerve

Postby matsuki » Sat Oct 29, 2016 12:56 am

Wage Slave wrote:OK, so I'm outdated but since so apparently is Google and the acronym guides - what does VTR stand for? Apart from Video Tape Recorder and Varmint Tactical Rifle.


It's "Video Tape Recorder" but all it's misuses have long outlived the poor video tape.

I wonder how long it will be before the next generation is saying they "watched DVDs" (in reference to "movies" ) long after any sort of disc media is obsolete. (if it isn't there already)
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Re: Those Koreans got a lot of nerve

Postby Samurai_Jerk » Sat Oct 29, 2016 3:31 pm

matsuki wrote:Try telling the locals that.


Full of shit as usual. People know what DV means. I'm sure you associate with a couple of morons who don't but normal people do.


Anyway, the real news out of South Korea right now is this.

South Korea: president orders 10 staff members to resign amid worsening crisis

Park Geun-hye under investigation over claims she let an old friend and daughter of a religious cult leader interfere in important state affairs

South Korean President Park Geun-hye has ordered 10 of her senior secretaries to resign after she admitted letting an old friend and daughter of a religious cult leader to interfere in important state affairs.

The announcement by Park’s office came on the eve of large anti-government protests planned in Seoul on Saturday over the scandal that is likely to deepen the president’s lame duck status ahead of next year’s elections.

Park has been facing calls to reshuffle her office after she admitted on Tuesday that she provided longtime friend Choi Soon-sil drafts of her speeches for editing. Her televised apology sparked huge criticism about her mismanagement of national information and heavy-handed leadership style many see as lacking in transparency.

There’s also media speculation that Choi, who holds no government job, meddled in government decisions on personnel and policy and exploited her ties with the president to misappropriate funds from nonprofit organisations.

The saga, triggered by weeks of media reports, has sent Park’s approval ratings to record lows and the minority opposition Justice party has called for her to resign.

In the last few days, prosecutors widened their investigation by raiding the homes and offices belonging to Choi and some of her associates and also the offices of two nonprofit foundations she supposedly controlled.


Hope the protests calm down by next weekend since I'm taking a little vacation in Seoul.
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Re: Those Koreans got a lot of nerve

Postby Coligny » Sat Oct 29, 2016 5:55 pm

Can you bring me back a dead hooker ?
Marion Marechal nous voila !

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Re: Those Koreans got a lot of nerve

Postby TennoChinko » Sun Oct 30, 2016 1:13 am

Samurai_Jerk wrote:
matsuki wrote:Try telling the locals that.


Full of shit as usual. People know what DV means. I'm sure you associate with a couple of morons who don't but normal people do.


Anyway, the real news out of South Korea right now is this.

South Korea: president orders 10 staff members to resign amid worsening crisis

Park Geun-hye under investigation over claims she let an old friend and daughter of a religious cult leader interfere in important state affairs

South Korean President Park Geun-hye has ordered 10 of her senior secretaries to resign after she admitted letting an old friend and daughter of a religious cult leader to interfere in important state affairs.

The announcement by Park’s office came on the eve of large anti-government protests planned in Seoul on Saturday over the scandal that is likely to deepen the president’s lame duck status ahead of next year’s elections.

Park has been facing calls to reshuffle her office after she admitted on Tuesday that she provided longtime friend Choi Soon-sil drafts of her speeches for editing. Her televised apology sparked huge criticism about her mismanagement of national information and heavy-handed leadership style many see as lacking in transparency.

There’s also media speculation that Choi, who holds no government job, meddled in government decisions on personnel and policy and exploited her ties with the president to misappropriate funds from nonprofit organisations.

The saga, triggered by weeks of media reports, has sent Park’s approval ratings to record lows and the minority opposition Justice party has called for her to resign.

In the last few days, prosecutors widened their investigation by raiding the homes and offices belonging to Choi and some of her associates and also the offices of two nonprofit foundations she supposedly controlled.


Hope the protests calm down by next weekend since I'm taking a little vacation in Seoul.


More background on the allegations: an article claiming the current ROK President has been under the control of an eight-member 'cabal' of oligarchs...

‘It’s actually a system where Choi Sun-sil tells the President what to do’
http://english.hani.co.kr/arti/english_ ... 67405.html
http://archive.is/0GE65

And, we see a 2007 wikileaks cable from former DCM at US Embassy Seoul, William Stanton, where he describes the father of the mysterious 'controller', CHOI SUN-SIL ... CHOI, Tae-min as the current President Park Gyun-Hye's 'RASUPUTIN' ... in other words, her 'Bony-M':

ROK PRESIDENTIAL ELECTION: STILL THE POLITICS OF THE VORTEX
Date:2007 July 20, 05:13 (Friday) Canonical ID:07SEOUL2178_a
Original Classification:CONFIDENTIAL Current Classification:CONFIDENTIAL

https://wikileaks.org/plusd/cables/07SEOUL2178_a.html
http://archive.is/2awZL

1. (C) The late Gregory Henderson, an FSO who had served several tours in Korea in the 1940s and 1960s, is well remembered as the author of "Korea: The Politics of the Vortex." The title remains an accurate description of Korean politics today: a spiraling whirlpool that sucks everything toward its center. Everything that gets caught in its wake is destroyed or damaged. The latest victim is former Seoul Mayor Lee Myung-bak, who looked like a shoo-in a month ago, but now has to deal with a growing list of corruption allegations centered on how a former salaryman could have amassed such a large personal fortune. The answer, suggests Lee's principal detractors, GNP opponent Park Geun-hye and President Roh Moo-hyun, is that the former mayor used inside information to buy land in the name of his family and cronies. Lee's detractors are also sucked in because they apparently used unsavory means -- including the ROK intelligence service and private detectives to "investigate" Lee. Park has also been forced to explain her own past, including her relationship some 35 years ago with a pastor, Choi Tae-min, whom her opponents characterize as a "Korean Rasputin," and how he controlled Park during her time in the Blue House when she was first lady after her mother's assassination. The result is that there is a real race in the GNP, with Lee and Park locked in a bloody struggle for the nomination, which will be decided in the August 19 primary. A damaged GNP nominee is exactly what the ruling camp needs for a competitive race in December, because none of their candidates has reached even 10 percent in the polls.


Leaked U.S. Embassy Cable Warned of 'Rasputin' Behind Park
http://english.chosun.com/site/data/htm ... 01342.html
http://archive.is/4fQ09

The U.S. Embassy in Korea sent a confidential report to Washington in 2007 describing then-presidential candidate Park Geun-hye as being controlled by her mentor Choi Tae-min, while his children were rumored to have amassed huge fortunes.

According to WikiLeaks, the cable was written by William Stanton, the deputy chief of mission at the time, and sent to the State Department by Ambassador Alexander Vershbow.

"Park has also been forced to explain her own past, including her relationship some 35 years ago with a pastor, Choi Tae-min, whom her opponents characterize as a 'Korean Rasputin,' and how he controlled Park during her time in [Cheong Wa Dae] when she was first lady after her mother's assassination."

Grigori Rasputin was a charismatic Russian monk and faith healer who wormed his way into the confidence of the family of Nicholas II, the last Tsar of Russia.
"Rumors are rife that the late pastor had complete control over Park's body and soul during her formative years and that his children accumulated enormous wealth as a result," Stanton said. He described Park's relationship with the charismatic pastor as "unusual."

The report appears aimed at cautioning Washington against the risk of Choi's family abusing their influence should Park become president. Choi's daughter Soon-sil is at the heart of a widening scandal engulfing the president on much the same charges.

Stanton wrote that then-President Lee Myung-bak's camp was "trying their best to characterize Park as not quite the unblemished princess she claims to be."


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Re: Those Koreans got a lot of nerve

Postby wagyl » Sun Oct 30, 2016 10:06 am

Are you saying that it was
there is dispute as to whether it is Roberto Farrell or Frank Farian wrote:Oh, those Russians!
behind this one, too?
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