Those Koreans got a lot of nerve

[TennoChinko]

Original title: Former ‘comfort woman’ hugs Trump at state banquet in Seoul
US Press version: Trump feels up Korean prostitute!
http://www.asahi.com/ajw/articles/AJ201711080046.html
http://archive.is/Dts1L

[wangta]

Maybe. The grave of my Uncle in Borneo killed by the Japanese on the death march has not made me hate Japanese people. Anecdotal I know...War is War, shit things happened, it was a long time ago. I think everyone's pretty much dead from that era anyway? So why care about it anymore, no apology needed.

Looking at the translated article, it says something about "taking over the whole world'. I dont think so. USA cut off oil supplies so they had to go for Indo oil fields among other places. Moreover, Japan was doing nothing the Western powers weren't doing already. They just didn't want the Yellow Man to take some of the action. As usual the winner writes the history.

I broadly agree with you mate and I think that generations who had nothing to do with the perpetrators of agressive actions, war, etc should not be blamed for previous generations that did. However, that's different from the constant Jp iiwake of 'No, we weren't like the Nazis/Germans. We were completely different.' This is propaganda, this is bullshit.

Your point about resources is broadly true but other empires like that of the British were built up over a few hundred years. The Japanese did their empire building in a period that was about 50 years, but seized countries and resources in fast, brutal attacks - and I aint saying the British/Europeans weren't brutal as well. But the Japanese version can be judged for its brutality very clearly as the takeover of Korea, for example, including the sudden assassination of the Empress in her palace.

The outrages against the Korean civilian population are well documented like photos of Korean girls being dragged by their hair from peaceful pro-independence protests in the street. The Japanese colonizers had little notion of some respect for civilians including women, teenagers, and children. The invasion of Manchuria in China was littered with the corpses of Chinese people, many of them civilians. And of course there is Nanjing - the only thing that is in dispute is the numbers.

Everytime I hear another Japanese zombie who claims to be educated telling me that Japan was different from the Nazis tempts me to gather together the documented and available testimonies of survivors from hospitals in Singapore where Japanese troops burst in and massacred patients on operating tables, doctors, nurses and other staff. Pure evil.

Malaysia, Burma, Singapore and other colonized countries had their own verified accounts of Japanese atrocities. I don't show the Japanese this evidence. I'm an English teacher, not a history teacher. If they want to be ignorant, let them. You can't fix stupid unless stupid shows some willingness to learn.

The Sikh soldiers who fought in the British army during WW2 knew of fucking evil shit that happened on islands like the cannibalism of POWs. They testified after WW2. This was not Japanese military policy but every evil piece of scum who ordered the POWs to be killed and then helped themselves to their flesh because of lack of food supplies, should have been hung by their heels in a remote area full of wild animals until they died.

The Allies did not pursue this as they had too much to already pursue. There are credible accounts by Sikh survivors of that time -I think the POWS who were cannibalised were not Sikh. And Unit 731 - straight out of Dr Mengele's playbook. But for some reason, Asian and other victims of Unit 731 aren't as important apparently as the Jewish victims of Mengele.

The facts above are just the tip of the iceberg. There are reasons that the Nazi and Japanese birds flocked together.

Yes. Exactly - why do we have to keep repeating it? The only thing I would add is that I think everyone should also recognise the enormous suffering imposed on the Japanese people as well. That suffering was extreme and it was not imposed by the allies but by the Japanese regime on its own people. From conscription and abuse to refusing to heed the Potsdam Declaration Tojo and crew committed crime against their own people. Just read some of the POW/soldiers' accounts to realise how little the military command cared about their own soldiers when they were facing impossible odds or got injured. They were utterly disposable too.

Maybe being a Wage Slave has dimmed your reasoning ability lately. I understand mate - my job is full on shitty at the moment not the least because the cunt who owns the company seems to honestly believe his Engrish teachers should be grateful for his scumbag attitudes. The reason 'why we have to keep repeating it' is precisely because this reality has been denied and is still being denied by Jp govts, education authorities and some mainstream media.

I'd say the forced suicides of thousands of Okinawan civilians by the Japanese military deserves some consideration both at the national level and in textbooks both at high school and university in Japan.

The denial of historical facts led to right wing Nippon Kaigi member Koike who is now the Mayor of Tokyo censoring school textbooks that would have given even a mild truth injection that yes, Japan invaded, colonised and had an alliance with Nazi Germany.

Not even the hard truths like yes, some of the things the Japanese military and non military did were more than compatible with Nazi Germany. Especially butchering civilians and performing live medical experiments on mostly Chinese people, and conducting physical and sexual assaults and butchery against civilians in Nanjing. The Chinese in the People's Republic will never forgive this blatant suppression of historical facts.

You can even link these facts with why the bombs were dropped at HIroshima and Nagasaki. Forget all the drivel about how unfair it was because Japan was seeking negotiations with the Soviet Union about ending the war. Too little, too late for the Japanese militarist scumbags. Of course nobody in the Allied Forces and nobody in the Soviet Union was going to have Japan trying to bend the cessation of war terms to their own deluded thinking.

And terrible as the bombs were, and morally questionable as they were, they prevented hundreds of thousands of Japan's opponents' forces dying in an invasion of Japan. Of course the Japanese were no priority by this time. Why should they have been, why should this ally of Nazi Germany have received any benefit of the doubt? Their record of slaughter in Asia spoke for itself. Nobody was prepared to negotiate with them.

Just the fact that so many Japanese don't know all these facts and more, and keep persisting that Japan was nothing like Nazi Germany in its behaviour, tells me that there needs to be some repetition of cold hard facts.

[wangta]

The Koreans got their chief comfort woman activist LEE Yong-soo to greet Trump at last night's state dinner.
Most articles indicated they shook hands but the news footage shows she reached out to embrace him which he awkwardly received. I half-expected the CNN headlines to proclaim "TRUMP MOLESTS KOREAN PROSTITUTE!"

But here is the strange thing ... in this December 28 2015 NY TIMES photo essay

The New York Times Korea’s Comfort Women: The Fight to Be Heard
https://www.nytimes.com/slideshow/2015/ ... -HDSJ.html

we have,

Lee Yong-soo, 67, said she went to Japan looking for work when she was 16 but ended up in Taiwan. Her first sexual experience was being raped aboard the ship on her way to Taiwan. Once there, she said, she was tortured when she at first refused to have sex with a Japanese soldier.
CreditYunghi Kim/Contact Press Images

That would make it impossible for Lee Yong-soo to have been a so-called comfort woman during WW II...she would have been born 3 years after WWII had ended.

Screenshot:

https://i.imgur.com/GEL4i1n.jpg

To be fair to this lady, Koreans actually put their age as older than we do. At birth a Korean is already considered nearly a year old and they add a couple of years to their ages in their 20s etc. Strange but true.

[TennoChinko]

They add 20 years to their age?!

I thought Asians were supposed to be good at math...

[Wage Slave]

And if she's added years to her true age then it's even more impossible she was around during WWII. Someone who was abused at the age of 16 right at the end of the war would be 88 today. And that's before adding years to their age for cultural reasons.

[Wage Slave]

Maybe being a Wage Slave has dimmed your reasoning ability lately. I understand mate - my job is full on shitty at the moment not the least because the cunt who owns the company seems to honestly believe his Engrish teachers should be grateful for his scumbag attitudes. The reason 'why we have to keep repeating it' is precisely because this reality has been denied and is still being denied by Jp govts, education authorities and some mainstream media.

I'd say the forced suicides of thousands of Okinawan civilians by the Japanese military deserves some consideration both at the national level and in textbooks both at high school and university in Japan.

The denial of historical facts led to right wing Nippon Kaigi member Koike who is now the Mayor of Tokyo censoring school textbooks that would have given even a mild truth injection that yes, Japan invaded, colonised and had an alliance with Nazi Germany.

Not even the hard truths like yes, some of the things the Japanese military and non military did were more than compatible with Nazi Germany. Especially butchering civilians and performing live medical experiments on mostly Chinese people, and conducting physical and sexual assaults and butchery against civilians in Nanjing. The Chinese in the People's Republic will never forgive this blatant suppression of historical facts.

You can even link these facts with why the bombs were dropped at HIroshima and Nagasaki. Forget all the drivel about how unfair it was because Japan was seeking negotiations with the Soviet Union about ending the war. Too little, too late for the Japanese militarist scumbags. Of course nobody in the Allied Forces and nobody in the Soviet Union was going to have Japan trying to bend the cessation of war terms to their own deluded thinking.

And terrible as the bombs were, and morally questionable as they were, they prevented hundreds of thousands of Japan's opponents' forces dying in an invasion of Japan. Of course the Japanese were no priority by this time. Why should they have been, why should this ally of Nazi Germany have received any benefit of the doubt? Their record of slaughter in Asia spoke for itself. Nobody was prepared to negotiate with them.

Just the fact that so many Japanese don't know all these facts and more, and keep persisting that Japan was nothing like Nazi Germany in its behaviour, tells me that there needs to be some repetition of cold hard facts.

My reasoning ability is well dimmed - Though I no longer have an employer to blame for it. And haven't had one for a fair while now. It seemed not so long ago that quite a few battles had been fought and won only for the likes of Trump, Farage and various counterparts to suddenly emerge victorious over the last few years. Racists, Fascists and deniers of all kinds are suddenly full of confidence and their lies given new life. According to one of them on here Japanese textbooks go into meticulous detail of Japanese war crimes while we all know they barely get a mention and even that has been too much for some districts.

[Takechanpoo]

this old k-woman Lee Yong-soo changed her testimony several times.
at first she testified that when she was 16 yo, a japanese male wearing kokumin-fuku and sentou-bou showed her a red one-piece dress and leather shoes, she got pleasant with it and then she left her family without letting her mother notice it.

but but but
after a while she suddenly changed her testimony.
"a japanese soldier invaded my house, grasped my neck and dragged me out of my house! "
and
"a military man and a woman thrust a katana at me, closed my mouth and dragged me out! "

[wangta]

[quote="Wage Slave My reasoning ability is well dimmed - Though I no longer have an employer to blame for it. And haven't had one for a fair while now. It seemed not so long ago that quite a few battles had been fought and won only for the likes of Trump, Farage and various counterparts to suddenly emerge victorious over the last few years. Racists, Fascists and deniers of all kinds are suddenly full of confidence and their lies given new life. According to one of them on here Japanese textbooks go into meticulous detail of Japanese war crimes while we all know they barely get a mention and even that has been too much for some districts.[/quote]

It aint only from the right - on the left side, Stalin has made a comeback in Russia and this has been around for at least the last 8 years or so. Communists pining for the good ol days that never existed under the dictator who ordered mass homicide and mass genocide. Internationally, Lenin has always had a pass from most leftists although he started the Red Terror and eliminated the democratic, Menshevik type Communists/Socialists and grassroots movements which were the authentic Soviets. As well as targeting peasant farmers and non Russian ethnic minorities etc.

I agree with a previous point of yours about the suffering of Japanese people under their militarist governments. The problem here too is the fact that it has been written out of textbooks and distorted politically at all levels of authority and governance in Japan since the end of WW2. That grim reality has been replaced by the national victimhood movement that focuses on the Allied powers as supposedly re-writing everything as propaganda, and of course the horrors of Hiroshima and Nagaskai interpreted and promoted as the 'suddenly one day the bombs were dropped' narrative.

Of course if the Japanese political authorities at all levels and the Japanese public accept the historical truth that their militarist governments oppressed them shockingly before WW2, then they have to follow the logical truth that Japan's international policies and the methods used to carry them out were also shocking in many cases. That explains the eagerness to ignore Japan's 'dark tunnel' in the years leading up to WW2.

Just don't be surprised anyone when the cunts that run Japan decide to use their new military constitutional powers which will be granted by the pollies, to invade places like the islands that Russia controls presently. History repeats and this will repeat too in the quest for resources. There's an underlying reason why crazy Kim's missiles flying in the space over Japan are reacted against so strongly by neo-fascist Abe - Japan will go back to being a military power to seize other country's resources. And many Japanese in every generation that was fed the myth of Japanese innocence and victimhood, that is, all of the generations around now, will justify it.

[Takechanpoo]

it seems that someone dont even know there are 8 different kinds of history textbooks used in j-high/junior high schools.
the main atrocities committed by j-empire are EXACTLY written with a detached tone in all of the textbooks, even in the problematic one. and the adoption rate of the problematic one written by far-right scholars is only a few % in all of the j-schools. well, either way, not only in history class but also in other class, textbooks are almost dont used in the classes in j-high/junior high schools, though. and even in the univ-entrance exam study, students almost dont use textbooks. you guys dont know this basic thing in j-schooling? eh?

when will you gaijin dudes stop judging j-history textbooks only by hearsay?
why the fck are you dudes easily swept by the propaganda by china and korea?
huh?

[matsuki]

The Japanese in Australia on ANZAC clueless as to why some rowdy Aussies are calling them JAP and telling them to fuck off doesn't require belief in any propaganda. If they come out of school without even basic knowledge of the facts, obviously there is a problem....

[Wage Slave]

The Japanese in Australia on ANZAC clueless as to why some rowdy Aussies are calling them JAP and telling them to fuck off doesn't require belief in any propaganda. If they come out of school without even basic knowledge of the facts, obviously there is a problem....

I abhor innocent people being subject to racist abuse but there is a valid point here. Whatever may or may not be in school textbooks there is no doubt that most young Japanese people are pretty much blissfully unaware of their own history in the late 19th and first half of the 20th century. The same most certainly cannot be said about young German people. And that's the real problem. Combine that blank space with a powerful and well connected group of people promoting a potent combination of denial, re-writing & whataboutism and there is reason for a lot of people in many countries to be concerned. And actually the Japanese people have as much reason to be concerned as anyone - they paid a terrible price too.

[Takechanpoo]

between japan and aussie, who declared war was not japan but aussie, despite the fact that j-side kindly noticed aussie-side several times that they had no willing to invade aussieland. so it was a legitimate act of war that j-empire air-raided the military facilities in darwin, which of the opponent themselves declared war. no reason for japan to be condemned about it, needless to say. but somewhat aussies have been taught it as one of evil deeds committed by j-empire and still angry at it. it means they still have continued a anti-japan propaganda in their school. and it seems that aussie are not good at properly connecting the relation between cause and effect.
and there are many testimonies left in which among the allied soldiers it was aussie who ruthlessly most shot j-soldiers unarmed and surrendered to death, rejecting to even take them prisoners. and among the countries which kidnapped innocent j-civilians to internment camps, it was only aussie that even forcibly deported those innocent j-civilians to japan after ww2.
most of aussies dont even know who declared war was themselves between the two countries and sometwat they even behave like an innocent naive victims tormented by j-empire, shutting their eyes to their own evil deeds.

as for what happened between japan and aussie, totally no need for japanese to have any single piece of sense of sin and shame.
by the way, this is one of the reason that i call aussie a mental-retarded son among anglo brothers.

[wagyl]

j-side kindly noticed aussie-side several times that they had no willing to invade aussieland.

I would be interested to hear more about this.
Cetacean needed.

[BigInJapan]

... textbooks are almost dont used in the classes in j-high/junior high schools, though. and even in the univ-entrance exam study, students almost dont use textbooks. you guys dont know this basic thing in j-schooling? eh?

Are you completely ignorant? (No need to answer.)
I'm guessing you went to jr/sr high school during the Yutori education (ゆとり教育 - pressure-free education) period.
My kids (jr. high and uni) could tell you that they definitely DO use all of the textbooks now, and there is an abundance of homework.
/ And now back to the thread topic

[Wage Slave]

j-side kindly noticed aussie-side several times that they had no willing to invade aussieland.

I would be interested to hear more about this.
Cetacean needed.

Cetaceans, Tacky?

No. Gets in the way of:

1. Fabrication
2. Selective quotation in order to deceive

So,

He will call you a moron for thinking that his important and reliable source should be digitised or at least cited by someone else online.

Or

He will say it's not my job to provide evidence for my assertions, it's your job, you idiot.

[Wage Slave]

... textbooks are almost dont used in the classes in j-high/junior high schools, though. and even in the univ-entrance exam study, students almost dont use textbooks. you guys dont know this basic thing in j-schooling? eh?

Are you completely ignorant? (No need to answer.)
I'm guessing you went to jr/sr high school during the Yutori education (ゆとり教育 - pressure-free education) period.
My kids (jr. high and uni) could tell you that they definitely DO use all of the textbooks now, and there is an abundance of homework.
/ And now back to the thread topic

Ditto here. My kid's pore over their textbooks and all the very many tests are closely based on what is in them. Juku and supplementary materials are all closely mapped to the textbooks as well because tests.

[wagyl]

Cetaceans, Tacky?

No need to do his homework for him. I know what level of response to expect.

You might not have seen, since you have him on ignore, but since he has pissed you and others off enough, he has had less ammunition to shoot back with, and things have been a little more civil. We all say thank you.

I'm mainly trying to set up a joke so that I can tell him: Mate, don't have a whale!
But I will admit that he often has an amusing link to a tortured corner of the internet where such claims may be found, given sufficient editing, as you point out. I would like to see.

[Wage Slave]

You might not have seen, since you have him on ignore, but since he has pissed you and others off enough, he has had less ammunition to shoot back with, and things have been a little more civil. We all say thank you.

Delighted to have been of service.

[Takechanpoo]

... textbooks are almost dont used in the classes in j-high/junior high schools, though. and even in the univ-entrance exam study, students almost dont use textbooks. you guys dont know this basic thing in j-schooling? eh?

Are you completely ignorant? (No need to answer.)
I'm guessing you went to jr/sr high school during the Yutori education (ゆとり教育 - pressure-free education) period.
My kids (jr. high and uni) could tell you that they definitely DO use all of the textbooks now, and there is an abundance of homework.
/ And now back to the thread topic

its kind of a tradition in j-high/junior high schools to almost not use textbooks in the classes long before the yutori education started. so-called yutori generation is who born in after 1986. im already not so young unfortunately.

[Takechanpoo]

even some veteran journalists, who actually can just read at most high school level japanese but have pretended to be a japanologist and earned money for a long time, when it comes to things on their side, suddenly become defensive and strictly require evidences to prove it (just look at and compare the above responses towards wangtas posts).
there are no official documents to prove that great nanjin massacre happened on the scale china-side has insisted. there are just some testimonies that at most some small-scale atrocities happened there. nevertheless based on the testimonies, a pile of articles and books have ever been written and scattered all over the world. and now the world people take that incident happened on that scale for grant. and also as for so-called comfort women, there are no official documents to prove they were forcibly systematically dragged out of their home by j-soldiers. there are just some suspicious testimonies by suspicious old women. nevertheless, the western medias have reported it as those suspicious old women insisted without carefully verifying it.

about the allied soldiers, especially aussie, shooting surrendered j-soldiers to death without taking them prisoners, they could have done in the very same way based on some testimonies. but they have not. why? just because its inconvenient for them.

[matsuki]

The Japanese in Australia on ANZAC clueless as to why some rowdy Aussies are calling them JAP and telling them to fuck off doesn't require belief in any propaganda. If they come out of school without even basic knowledge of the facts, obviously there is a problem....

I abhor innocent people being subject to racist abuse but there is a valid point here.

Wasn't saying I agreed with what happened to the clueless Japanese....but glad my point came across to someone cause someone didn't quite understand....

as for what happened between japan and aussie, totally no need for japanese to have any single piece of sense of sin and shame. by the way, this is one of the reason that i call aussie a mental-retarded son among anglo brothers.

Who said anything about shame? The point is these poor clueless Japanese were actually in Australia, totally unaware that Japan had ever engaged Australia militarily at all. Books, no books, it's very Japaneeeeezu to get caught up in the process when at the end of the day, the only shame I see here is that level of ignorance as the result. Which is why...

Combine that blank space with a powerful and well connected group of people promoting a potent combination of denial, re-writing & whataboutism and there is reason for a lot of people in many countries to be concerned. And actually the Japanese people have as much reason to be concerned as anyone - they paid a terrible price too.

[Taka-Okami]

Takechanpoo is a troll. Ignore it.

[legion]

Cetaceans, Tacky?

Having a whale of a time

[Coligny]

Takechanpoo is a troll. Ignore it.

I doubt it...
Troll do it for the lulz...

Takarembe seems to be genuinely debil...

[Takechanpoo]

whataboutism

the responsibility towards what j-empire did is one thing, objectively talking about what not only j-empire but the western empires did is another. when i discuss the former, i do it as japanese. when i discuss the latter, i do it as a universal person peeled all of my personal attributes off me. it logically contradicts nothing. referring to the latter is not even red herring.

by teh way, when the fuck on earth will the eikaiwa slave guy explain how it can be justified about the fact that england completely whitewashed their own atrocities out of their history textbooks. although he blocked me and run, im still waiting for it.

[wangta]

between japan and aussie, who declared war was not japan but aussie, despite the fact that j-side kindly noticed aussie-side several times that they had no willing to invade aussieland. so it was a legitimate act of war that j-empire air-raided the military facilities in darwin, which of the opponent themselves declared war. no reason for japan to be condemned about it, needless to say. but somewhat aussies have been taught it as one of evil deeds committed by j-empire and still angry at it. it means they still have continued a anti-japan propaganda in their school. and it seems that aussie are not good at properly connecting the relation between cause and effect.
and there are many testimonies left in which among the allied soldiers it was aussie who ruthlessly most shot j-soldiers unarmed and surrendered to death, rejecting to even take them prisoners. and among the countries which kidnapped innocent j-civilians to internment camps, it was only aussie that even forcibly deported those innocent j-civilians to japan after ww2.
most of aussies dont even know who declared war was themselves between the two countries and sometwat they even behave like an innocent naive victims tormented by j-empire, shutting their eyes to their own evil deeds.

as for what happened between japan and aussie, totally no need for japanese to have any single piece of sense of sin and shame.
by the way, this is one of the reason that i call aussie a mental-retarded son among anglo brothers.

As an Aussie I can honestly tell you that Japan and the Japanese have had a mostly positive image in Ozland since around the 70s. I don't remember as I wasn't around then but parents, relatives etc were. The 'Those bloody cruel Japs' feelings were the product of WW2 and mostly weren't carried on by successive generations. I heard that tv programs on Japan like samurai dramas were popular in the 70s and Astro Boy was loved under the name Space Ace.

My home city Melbourne was popular with the first wave of Japanese who came to work in Ozland as Japanese teachers and academics or to study at uni. That was some time in the 80s and Melbourne still has the rep of being the most Japanese-friendly city. About the bombings in Darwin - scuse me if my timeline is wrong but from what I know Aussie troops and bombers hadn't fired a shot towards the borders of Japan or sent one bomb towards Japan when the Jp planes decided to attack Darwin. It seems to be the case of the ol Jp 'victims' striking first.

And cut the 'Oh, we are so shocked that Japan attacked us' crap. Nobody thinks that a strike against Darwin by the Jp forces was anywhere near the worst thing that happened - the atrocities and assorted war crimes of Imperial Japan were and remain the biggest issue. Mostly because of the continual denial of their reality by mainstream Japan since the end of WW2.

True about Aussie soldiers not taking enough prisoners and choosing to shoot some numbers of Jp prisoners. Morally unjustifiable on a basic level of human decency.

However, in the context of what they knew about the Jp Imperial Army's policies of death marches, starved Allied POWs being made to construct railways in Burma, their Jp overseers extracting every last fraction of health and human dignity from their abused bodies, bayoneted patients, nurses and doctors in Singapore, cruelties in Malaysia and the Dutch East Indies, and of course the cannibalism of POWs by starving Japanese soldiers - and these are only a selection of the war crimes well documented - I think it's understandable some Aussie soldiers chose to shoot their Japanese military prisoners instead of giving them the protections afforded POWs under international agreements.

If I'd been an Allied/Aussie soldier and knew among the Jp prisoners were those who'd killed and cannibalised non Jp soldiers, or murdered hospital patients and staff. I'd have put a bullet or two in them.These Jp prisoners' deaths were humane compared to what happened to their enemies.

As for Roosevelt allowing the Japanese POWs to be sent to Russia - same thing again. The rights of the Japanese Imperial forces were the last thing on Allied minds. At least the Nazis didn't bullshit about their crimes but became more and more open about what they intended to do and what they did.

[Takechanpoo]

True about Aussie soldiers not taking enough prisoners and choosing to shoot some numbers of Jp prisoners. Morally unjustifiable on a basic level of human decency.

However, in the context of what they knew about the Jp Imperial Army's policies of death marches, starved Allied POWs being made to construct railways in Burma, their Jp overseers extracting every last fraction of health and human dignity from their abused bodies, bayoneted patients, nurses and doctors in Singapore, cruelties in Malaysia and the Dutch East Indies, and of course the cannibalism of POWs by starving Japanese soldiers - and these are only a selection of the war crimes well documented - I think it's understandable some Aussie soldiers chose to shoot their Japanese military prisoners instead of giving them the protections afforded POWs under international agreements.

If I'd been an Allied/Aussie soldier and knew among the Jp prisoners were those who'd killed and cannibalised non Jp soldiers, or murdered hospital patients and staff. I'd have put a bullet or two in them.These Jp prisoners' deaths were humane compared to what happened to their enemies.

As for Roosevelt allowing the Japanese POWs to be sent to Russia - same thing again. The rights of the Japanese Imperial forces were the last thing on Allied minds. At least the Nazis didn't bullshit about their crimes but became more and more open about what they intended to do and what they did.

you harbored excessive expectations towards japan, came to this island and experienced the taste of racism(, which is far more mild than ones of the western societies, though) for the first time in your life and now you are getting to harbor hostile feelings against the whole of japan and japanese. and also you are sympathizing with china/korea by the "logic" of the enemy of your enemy is your friend.

and you need to google hasty generalization or the fallacy of composition.
the fact that some of j-soldiers were evil and no mercy never follows the conclusion that all or most of j-soldiers too were evil and no mercy and then totally no problem to ruthlessly treat them as worms. its no more than a propaganda scattered by the western medias at that time that all or most of j-soldiers were savage and cruel as devils, needless to say.

i guess you are at the age of mid 20s. its still too young to solve your worries by yourself alone.
if you speak japanese to some extent, i recommend you to try this without hesitation.
http://www.tbs.co.jp/radio/kodomotel/archive.htm

good luck

[wangta]

True about Aussie soldiers not taking enough prisoners and choosing to shoot some numbers of Jp prisoners. Morally unjustifiable on a basic level of human decency.

However, in the context of what they knew about the Jp Imperial Army's policies of death marches, starved Allied POWs being made to construct railways in Burma, their Jp overseers extracting every last fraction of health and human dignity from their abused bodies, bayoneted patients, nurses and doctors in Singapore, cruelties in Malaysia and the Dutch East Indies, and of course the cannibalism of POWs by starving Japanese soldiers - and these are only a selection of the war crimes well documented - I think it's understandable some Aussie soldiers chose to shoot their Japanese military prisoners instead of giving them the protections afforded POWs under international agreements.

If I'd been an Allied/Aussie soldier and knew among the Jp prisoners were those who'd killed and cannibalised non Jp soldiers, or murdered hospital patients and staff. I'd have put a bullet or two in them.These Jp prisoners' deaths were humane compared to what happened to their enemies.

As for Roosevelt allowing the Japanese POWs to be sent to Russia - same thing again. The rights of the Japanese Imperial forces were the last thing on Allied minds. At least the Nazis didn't bullshit about their crimes but became more and more open about what they intended to do and what they did.

you harbored excessive expectations towards japan, came to this island and experienced the taste of racism(, which is far more mild than ones of the western societies, though) for the first time in your life and now you are getting to harbor hostile feelings against the whole of japan and japanese. and also you are sympathizing with china/korea by the "logic" of the enemy of your enemy is your friend.

and you need to google hasty generalization or the fallacy of composition.
the fact that some of j-soldiers were evil and no mercy never follows the conclusion that all or most of j-soldiers too were evil and no mercy and then totally no problem to ruthlessly treat them as worms. its no more than a propaganda scattered by the western medias at that time that all or most of j-soldiers were savage and cruel as devils, needless to say.

i guess you are at the age of mid 20s. its still too young to solve your worries by yourself alone.
if you speak japanese to some extent, i recommend you to try this without hesitation.
http://www.tbs.co.jp/radio/kodomotel/archive.htm

good luck

Oh please, stop spitting your dummy out when confronted by logic and facts. I'm glad you quoted what I said cause it's just more evidence that when confronted by reasonable posts you go all wobbly and your brain goes to uni mush.

Tough shit love, you never had debating classes at school. This lack of educating Japanese junior high school and high school students to deal with arguments and discussions reasonably and to understand the difference between personal attacks and making cases based on rational arguments with supporting facts, is a big reason why the 'Imperial Japan in WW2 has no similarities with Nazi Germany', 'Japan never had an empire', 'The cases made against Japan for its war crimes are false and anyway you all did exactly the same', and 'Suddenly Hiroshima and Nagasaki happened' is in constant replay among mainstream Japanese even in 2017. If you weren't so intellectually challenged, you would get the points in my latest post.

Suck it up matey - you are outnumbered here in the rationality game. You sound more and more like fake uyoku, American misfit McTojo who was banished to the beyond fucked forum. I don't give a rat's arse you don't agree with me but I reckon that your latest post shows you are heading down the same path.

[Takechanpoo]

well, learning the basics is very important.
https://www.amazon.com/Schaums-Outline- ... 0071777539
https://www.amazon.co.jp/Schaums-Outlin ... 0071755462
just insisting to be logical is one thing, actually being logical is another thing.

[Coligny]

hey... I liked McTojo...