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Re: No Escape From The NHK Man?

Postby wangta » Thu Dec 07, 2017 12:15 pm

matsuki wrote:
wagyl wrote:I predict a sodai gomi bonanza in electronics!


Or better screening for unannounced visitors? The baba landlord where I live insists on manually locking the building entrance rather than forking over money for a proper auto-lock system but inevitably it gets left unlocked and the bible thumpers, NHK, and other solicitors weasel their way in.

I've been visited several times in the past couple years and haven't had much of an issue telling them I own a projector and a PC but no TV/TV tuner. They still try the whole 1-seg hail mary by asking if you have a keitai but I always smile and say "aren't iphones great?!" (no 1-seg) More and more people I know in the states are "cutting the cable" and sticking to online streaming so not hard to imagine that happening here...as well as an increase in physical DVD sales :wink:


Matsuki,man, you've gotta learn to play the passive agressive at their own game. Don't even communicate with the cunts. Don't open the door, let the dickheads press the doorbell until they get RSi. Or bang on the door, like happened to me. Just let it slide, put on the headphones and enjoy music. A neighbour of mine went out and told the NHK collector to leave the apartment block as he was a 'meiwaku'.

My neighbour drives trucks for a living and the NHK tard left quickly. I only heard the day after as my blue collar neighbour complained about the bakajin disturbing everybody. He told me if I come across the NHKtard again to tell him to get outta the premises quickly and to call out to everybody if the NHKtard doesn't leave. Ha - there are benefits living in a low income area apart from low rent.

Oh yeah, and if they hang around and wait til you come out to go to work or whatever, barge past em talking in another language. That happened to me earlier this year - told the bloke who was probably NHK to get lost in Korean and then started speaking in French, for some reason studied that well in the first two years of high school. The NHK tard didn't follow me.
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Re: No Escape From The NHK Man?

Postby Grumpy Gramps » Thu Dec 07, 2017 1:47 pm

Ah, French is a good idea. You can radiate all the French charm, hug and kiss and sing a song of love "Voulez vous coucher avec moi, monsieur" :)
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Re: No Escape From The NHK Man?

Postby Takechanpoo » Thu Dec 07, 2017 1:53 pm

to be precise, they are not nhk employees but employees of the companies signing an outsourcing contract with nhk.
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Re: No Escape From The NHK Man?

Postby Wage Slave » Thu Dec 07, 2017 1:54 pm

Grumpy Gramps wrote:Ah, French is a good idea. You can radiate all the French charm, hug and kiss and sing a song of love "Voulez vous coucher avec moi, monsieur" :)


You missed out the tonight bit :lol: Adds a nice touch of urgency, no?
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Re: No Escape From The NHK Man?

Postby Grumpy Gramps » Thu Dec 07, 2017 3:39 pm

Not tonight, right now! Have your breath refreshed with a few cloves of garlick would add some authenticity.
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Re: No Escape From The NHK Man?

Postby Wage Slave » Thu Dec 07, 2017 3:49 pm

Ah yes. THIS night, now rather than later. And yes the garlick would help for the win. As for AC/DC, I suppose that would make suitable background music for the kind of lurvemaking we have in mind. Has to be useful for something if only in the manner of a stopped clock.
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Re: No Escape From The NHK Man?

Postby wagyl » Thu Dec 07, 2017 7:26 pm

Actually an American song, but that is no reason to stop spreading the Lady Marmalade...

Hat tip to Mulboyne's twitter: The Supreme Court stopped short of allowing NHK to unilaterally create the contract (and your resulting obligations) by just sending notice to you. They still need to win a lawsuit ordering you to enter into a contract. Of course, they are now pretty much guaranteed of winning that lawsuit, but it will be interesting to see just what mechanism they use to achieve this with about 20% of households not paying at present.
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Re: No Escape From The NHK Man?

Postby matsuki » Fri Dec 08, 2017 9:21 am

wangta wrote:Matsuki,man, you've gotta learn to play the passive agressive at their own game. Don't even communicate with the cunts. Don't open the door, let the dickheads press the doorbell until they get RSi. Or bang on the door, like happened to me. Just let it slide, put on the headphones and enjoy music.


These were times when I was coming home or dealing with takyubin and they caught me with the door open, with some TV show or movie on in the background. (in English so ネットだよ didn't meet with any protest) They weren't assholes and took being shut down in stride so wasn't much of an issue.

Grumpy Gramps wrote:Ah, French is a good idea. You can radiate all the French charm, hug and kiss and sing a song of love "Voulez vous coucher avec moi, monsieur" :)


I think the default gaijin response is 「ソリー、日本語食べません。」
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Re: No Escape From The NHK Man?

Postby Taro Toporific » Thu Dec 28, 2017 10:21 am

Tokyo court latest to rule users of TV-capable cell phones must pay NHK reception fees
December 27, 2017 (Mainichi Japan)
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According to the man's claim and other sources, when he was living in Higashiosaka, Osaka Prefecture, in July 2012, he did not own a television, but had a cell phone equipped with a function that allowed for watching TV broadcasts. The man claimed that simply by owning the phone, NHK made him sign a subscription contract with the public broadcaster, and he paid a one-month fee of 1,345 yen.
This is the fourth ruling handed down by district courts over NHK fees levied on users of TV-capable cell phones...more...
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Re: No Escape From The NHK Man?

Postby wagyl » Thu Dec 28, 2017 11:50 am

But I don't even get mobile phone reception down here in the basement of the Shibuya NHK HQ...

Seriously speaking, I never got one-seg reception out in the snowy valleys. I knew that I was in a broadcast shadow for digital TV in my house, but there was no one-seg even in places where there was not any conceivable interference between the phone and the broadcast antenna.
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Re: No Escape From The NHK Man?

Postby Taro Toporific » Wed Feb 21, 2018 10:34 am

“Protect the Citizens From NHK Party”
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Previous mention of these valiant anti-NHK activities earlier in this thread on July 26, 2016.
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Re: No Escape From The NHK Man?

Postby matsuki » Wed Feb 21, 2018 10:48 am

If I could only vote...
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Re: No Escape From The NHK Man?

Postby Taro Toporific » Wed Feb 21, 2018 10:55 am

matsuki wrote:If I could only vote...


The party leader, Tachibana-san, seems like a nice enough guy...

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Re: No Escape From The NHK Man?

Postby Takechanpoo » Wed Feb 21, 2018 2:09 pm

its a little bit sad to see this guys brain is 2channelized and easily jump on a conspiracy theory.
well, actually it seems to be true that the percentage of z-korean employee in j-mass media industry is comparably high, compared to other j-industries, though.
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Re: No Escape From The NHK Man?

Postby wuchan » Wed Feb 21, 2018 8:17 pm

Takechanpoo wrote:its a little bit sad to see this guys brain is 2channelized and easily jump on a conspiracy theory.
well, actually it seems to be true that the percentage of z-korean employee in j-mass media industry is comparably high, compared to other j-industries, though.


lol wut?
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Re: No Escape From The NHK Man?

Postby FG Lurker » Thu May 31, 2018 12:41 am



Not exactly on topic but since NHK's payment model seems to be based on the BBC model it might be of interest.
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Re: No Escape From The NHK Man?

Postby Taro Toporific » Thu May 31, 2018 6:10 pm

FG Lurker wrote:...NHK's payment model seems to be based on the BBC model it might be of interest.


Damn. I was sure that Auntie Beeb was a stone-cold killer of non-payers. It's good to hear that the Resistance reigns against government propaganda TV (even though the BBC is vastly better and almost benign compared to NHK).

Also...A tiny bundle of my neurons has been gnawing at the back of brain for at least 50 years wondering how exactly the BBC's "fleet of super-vans" for detecting non-paying BBC users worked: D'uh, they don't. :oops:
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Re: No Escape From The NHK Man?

Postby legion » Thu May 31, 2018 9:26 pm

I recall being told many years ago that a TV receives a signal, it doesn't emit one, so detection is impossible. The real give away was the antenna on the roof.
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Re: No Escape From The NHK Man?

Postby Russell » Thu May 31, 2018 10:43 pm

legion wrote:I recall being told many years ago that a TV receives a signal, it doesn't emit one, so detection is impossible. The real give away was the antenna on the roof.

Hmm, it seems to be physically possible to detect a TV set that is switched on. I have read two ways in which it could be done:

  1. Detecting the Local Oscillator: there is an oscillator in your TV set that is tuned to the frequency of the channel you are watching, and the radiation from this oscillator can be detected. This is somewhat similar to how radar-detector detectors work.
  2. Detecting the radiation from the TV antenna: at most half of the power going into the antenna is absorbed, and the rest is re-radiated, which can be detected.
The second method would not work with cable-TV, because there is no antenna, but as long as your TV set has a radio tuner, the first method should work.
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Re: No Escape From The NHK Man?

Postby legion » Thu May 31, 2018 11:59 pm

Would the radiating power in number 2 apply to any metal pole sticking up outside?

That stuff is kind of freaky when you think about it, it means we are constantly being bathed in David Attenborough radiation.
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Re: No Escape From The NHK Man?

Postby Russell » Fri Jun 01, 2018 12:15 am

legion wrote:Would the radiating power in number 2 apply to any metal pole sticking up outside?

That stuff is kind of freaky when you think about it, it means we are constantly being bathed in David Attenborough radiation.

The electromagnetic radiation can be absorbed by a metal pole by at most 50% in the optimal case, and the rest is re-radiated into the environment.

Yes, we are constantly bathed in electromagnetic radiation. There are nowadays even techniques to harvest energy from it (call backscattering).
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Re: No Escape From The NHK Man?

Postby FG Lurker » Fri Jun 01, 2018 1:40 pm

Russell wrote:Hmm, it seems to be physically possible to detect a TV set that is switched on. I have read two ways in which it could be done:

It might be possible if there was a single TV in a rural area and there wasn't a lot of other electronic noise around.

However the BBC claim they can detect any TV in any area (urban included) and even detect exactly where the TV is located in a building as well as what is being watched. They've made these claims since the 1950s. Add in that they have never used this magic technology in a lawsuit and it's clear it's just made up third rate sci-fi.
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Re: No Escape From The NHK Man?

Postby wagyl » Fri Jun 01, 2018 1:50 pm

Russell wrote:
legion wrote:Would the radiating power in number 2 apply to any metal pole sticking up outside?

That stuff is kind of freaky when you think about it, it means we are constantly being bathed in David Attenborough radiation.

The electromagnetic radiation can be absorbed by a metal pole by at most 50% in the optimal case, and the rest is re-radiated into the environment.

Yes, we are constantly bathed in electromagnetic radiation. There are nowadays even techniques to harvest energy from it (call backscattering).

I don't want to scare you guys, but the star which is at the centre of our solar system is pumping out electromagnetic radiation at a phenomenal rate -- some of it you can even freaking see with your eyes! -- and plenty of it gets through that muffling blanket called the atmosphere. Not to mention that we happily carry radio transmitters -- commonly called mobile phones -- either next to our hearts or next to our gonads.
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Re: No Escape From The NHK Man?

Postby Grumpy Gramps » Fri Jun 01, 2018 2:01 pm

Russell wrote:Hmm, it seems to be physically possible to detect a TV set that is switched on.


--> Van Eck phreaking, but I am not sure, if this needs an old CRT monitor or also works with the more modern style TVs.
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Re: No Escape From The NHK Man?

Postby legion » Fri Jun 01, 2018 9:36 pm

wagyl wrote:
Russell wrote:
legion wrote:Would the radiating power in number 2 apply to any metal pole sticking up outside?

That stuff is kind of freaky when you think about it, it means we are constantly being bathed in David Attenborough radiation.

The electromagnetic radiation can be absorbed by a metal pole by at most 50% in the optimal case, and the rest is re-radiated into the environment.

Yes, we are constantly bathed in electromagnetic radiation. There are nowadays even techniques to harvest energy from it (call backscattering).

I don't want to scare you guys, but the star which is at the centre of our solar system is pumping out electromagnetic radiation at a phenomenal rate -- some of it you can even freaking see with your eyes! -- and plenty of it gets through that muffling blanket called the atmosphere. Not to mention that we happily carry radio transmitters -- commonly called mobile phones -- either next to our hearts or next to our gonads.


Does that mean David Attenborough is on my gonads?

I still find it amazing that data flies through the air and magically turns into coherent information. That electronic energy can become a voice or text or an image fills me with awe. It amazes me even more that other people take this for granted.

I still find it incredible that a needle vibrating along a vinyl groove can become a sound. I can just about understand that when I blow across a hole I can produce a sound.

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Re: No Escape From The NHK Man?

Postby wuchan » Fri Jun 01, 2018 11:47 pm

NHK finally grew the balls to approach my house after the chainsaw incident. I opened the door, he started his speech, I laughed at him and closed the door. He stared at his shoes till the end of the driveway and then kicked rocks until I couldn't see him...


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Russell wrote:Hmm, it seems to be physically possible to detect a TV set that is switched on.


--> Van Eck phreaking, but I am not sure, if this needs an old CRT monitor or also works with the more modern style TVs.


I don't know what you are talking about. I don't own a TV, I have a few really large computer monitors.
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Re: No Escape From The NHK Man?

Postby Russell » Sat Jun 02, 2018 8:09 am

legion wrote:
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legion wrote:Would the radiating power in number 2 apply to any metal pole sticking up outside?

That stuff is kind of freaky when you think about it, it means we are constantly being bathed in David Attenborough radiation.

The electromagnetic radiation can be absorbed by a metal pole by at most 50% in the optimal case, and the rest is re-radiated into the environment.

Yes, we are constantly bathed in electromagnetic radiation. There are nowadays even techniques to harvest energy from it (call backscattering).

I don't want to scare you guys, but the star which is at the centre of our solar system is pumping out electromagnetic radiation at a phenomenal rate -- some of it you can even freaking see with your eyes! -- and plenty of it gets through that muffling blanket called the atmosphere. Not to mention that we happily carry radio transmitters -- commonly called mobile phones -- either next to our hearts or next to our gonads.


Does that mean David Attenborough is on my gonads?

I still find it amazing that data flies through the air and magically turns into coherent information. That electronic energy can become a voice or text or an image fills me with awe. It amazes me even more that other people take this for granted.

I still find it incredible that a needle vibrating along a vinyl groove can become a sound. I can just about understand that when I blow across a hole I can produce a sound.

Physics is amazing, and the engineers who can manipulate it to do all kinds of stuff even more so.
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Re: No Escape From The NHK Man?

Postby legion » Sat Jun 02, 2018 7:11 pm

Russell wrote:Physics is amazing, and the engineers who can manipulate it to do all kinds of stuff even more so.


It's a weird world we now have, Youtubers who produce nothing but commentary on products other people have built, yet we are supposed to "follow" the parasite.
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Re: No Escape From The NHK Man?

Postby Wage Slave » Sat Jun 02, 2018 8:20 pm

Russell wrote:
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wagyl wrote:
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legion wrote:Would the radiating power in number 2 apply to any metal pole sticking up outside?

That stuff is kind of freaky when you think about it, it means we are constantly being bathed in David Attenborough radiation.

The electromagnetic radiation can be absorbed by a metal pole by at most 50% in the optimal case, and the rest is re-radiated into the environment.

Yes, we are constantly bathed in electromagnetic radiation. There are nowadays even techniques to harvest energy from it (call backscattering).

I don't want to scare you guys, but the star which is at the centre of our solar system is pumping out electromagnetic radiation at a phenomenal rate -- some of it you can even freaking see with your eyes! -- and plenty of it gets through that muffling blanket called the atmosphere. Not to mention that we happily carry radio transmitters -- commonly called mobile phones -- either next to our hearts or next to our gonads.


Does that mean David Attenborough is on my gonads?

I still find it amazing that data flies through the air and magically turns into coherent information. That electronic energy can become a voice or text or an image fills me with awe. It amazes me even more that other people take this for granted.

I still find it incredible that a needle vibrating along a vinyl groove can become a sound. I can just about understand that when I blow across a hole I can produce a sound.

Physics is amazing, and the engineers who can manipulate it to do all kinds of stuff even more so.


Not physics, more just engineering but the whole notion of packet switching, and what it can achieve fills me with admiration. So clever, so efficient and so transformative. It's one thing to send a dedicated radio/TV signal to a receiver but another to be able to send and receive vast amounts of widely differing stuff all at the same time.
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Re: No Escape From The NHK Man?

Postby wagyl » Sat Jun 02, 2018 10:24 pm

legion wrote:Does that mean David Attenborough is on my gonads?

That is one of the cases where I would recommend that you use his proper title of Sir David Attenborough.
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