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Buraku wrote:Japan warns of Corona KillShots....cardiac health risks from COVID vaccines
https://news.yahoo.co.jp/articles/c737f ... e1906adb3f
matsuki wrote:Statements like that would get me beheaded in the US as "AntiVax" even though I'm vaccinated and very much in favor of people getting vaccinated.
Matsuki wrote:Would be a less controversial situation if they actually prevented spread. (though that's how they're being dishonestly pushed)
“They absolutely do reduce transmission,” says Christopher Byron Brooke at the University of Illinois at Urbana-Champaign. “Vaccinated people do transmit the virus in some cases, but the data are super crystal-clear that the risk of transmission for a vaccinated individual is much, much lower than for an unvaccinated individual.”
A recent study found that vaccinated people infected with the delta variant are 63 per cent less likely to infect people who are unvaccinated.
omae mona wrote:matsuki wrote:Statements like that would get me beheaded in the US as "AntiVax" even though I'm vaccinated and very much in favor of people getting vaccinated.
There's this trend in the US that when people spread misinformation about vaccines, and that misinformation might lead to more people refusing to get vaccinated, they label the misinformation spreader as "antivax". Regardless of the misinformation spreader's personal actions and opinions. I'm not saying this applies to you. It's just something going on.Matsuki wrote:Would be a less controversial situation if they actually prevented spread. (though that's how they're being dishonestly pushed)
I don't know anything about this and don't have much of a horse in this race. I'm sure you've researched it way more than me. But the first google search I got says the opposite of what you're saying. I think "New Scientist" is a pretty reputable magazine, and they are quoting published, peer-reviewed scientific research from October. Where did you get your info from?
https://www.newscientist.com/article/22 ... accinated/“They absolutely do reduce transmission,” says Christopher Byron Brooke at the University of Illinois at Urbana-Champaign. “Vaccinated people do transmit the virus in some cases, but the data are super crystal-clear that the risk of transmission for a vaccinated individual is much, much lower than for an unvaccinated individual.”
A recent study found that vaccinated people infected with the delta variant are 63 per cent less likely to infect people who are unvaccinated.
Isle of View wrote:
Coligny wrote:Despite these numbers (voluntary vaccination btw)
The massive protests against the digital vaccination certificate are considered “antivax”
Even if people are against the -mostly illegal- digital tracking… and not the vaccine… that almost everybody got…
It is perfectly ok to check if the person in front of you is vaccinated. Just that any other info… starting with the name is off limit…
And there’s really plenty of solutions for that…
Coligny wrote:Isle of View wrote:
That graphic is a shitshow…
Haven’t seen worse since the “global warming vs number of pirates” one
And i can’t find France or the Krauts… officially we are at
92% 1 dose
90% 2 doses
And starting the 3rd dose vaccination before year end vacations.
With hospital at:
Normal stay covid 4%
ICU covid 2%
Despite these numbers (voluntary vaccination btw)
The massive protests against the digital vaccination certificate are considered “antivax”
Even if people are against the -mostly illegal- digital tracking… and not the vaccine… that almost everybody got…
It is perfectly ok to check if the person in front of you is vaccinated. Just that any other info… starting with the name is off limit…
And there’s really plenty of solutions for that…
Isle of View wrote:[
Quite.
Forget about hard data, far better to get one's COVID-19 advice from an innumerate f*ckwit Frenchie posting on an obscure zombie forum for bitter gaijin.
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