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Global Immigration Debate

Postby Mulboyne » Sun Nov 04, 2007 6:09 am

A lot of commentators portray Japan as a country in denial about its need for an accommodating immigration policy. Usually the country's policies are contrasted with those of other nation's. This article in today's Independent about the situation in Italy and the UK seems like useful perspective:

Italy turns on its immigrants in wake of a murder
...Three small kittens and a hungry-looking mongrel are the last remaining inhabitants of the Roma squatter camp on the northern outskirts of Rome...The camp is empty because on Wednesday a naval captain's wife, Giovanna Reggiani, 47, returning home from a shopping trip to central Rome, was attacked and robbed near here, and dumped in the gully. Last night she died in hospital. It was a vicious crime, and fed into a mounting national mood of anger and exasperation about immigration. Suddenly Italy's political system, normally so sluggish, sprang into life. Within hours Italy was doing what millions of people around Europe – whipped up by populist politicians and a xenophobic media – would like to see their own governments doing: taking quick, dramatic and draconian action to teach the immigrants a lesson they won't forget.

A new law on security has been creeping through parliament: one of its central provisions is that foreigners belonging to EU countries and resident in Italy can be expelled on the orders of local prefects if they are a threat to "public security". No trial is necessary. On Wednesday night, at the urging of Walter Veltroni, the Mayor of Rome and leader of a new centrist party, the Democratic Party, that provision was extracted from the law, quickly redrafted as a "decree-law", a sort of diktat, and signed by the President overnight. From being the sluggard of the EU, suddenly Italy was in the vanguard. "First 5,000 expulsions to go ahead," promised La Repubblica newspaper. The decree law came into force yesterday, and last night the Prefect of Milan became the first in the country to apply for its implementation, demanding the expulsion of four Roma. The Roma are as ever the first minority group to be singled out and vilified when anti-immigrant sentiments are inflamed...

...It's the sort of bold, drastic action against the tide of immigration that many have called for across much of western Europe. The free movement of people across the continent is a cornerstone of the union of 27 member states but the linkage between immigration and crime remains explosive. In Italy, as in Britain, the Netherlands and elsewhere, the issue of foreign criminals stirs a mob mentality that can quickly remove senior politicians from office if they are caught on the wrong side of it. Statistics do little to calm the debate. Analysis from the Metropolitan Police suggests that foreign migrants are if anything less likely to commit crimes than other groups. Figures suggested that they made up 27 per cent of the population in London but committed 20 per cent of the crimes. Danny Sriskandarajah, a respected expert on migration at the Institute of Public Policy Research, said: "Although the evidence may suggest foreigners are no more, and maybe less likely to be criminal in the UK there is a combination of fears about outsiders and mistrust of outsiders...

...If the murder of Mrs Reggiani has plunged Italy into a moral panic, it has been a long time coming....Increasingly racist coverage of muggings, rapes and murders in the press and on television has built a mood of national hysteria. In Italy there is a widespread feeling that the country is swamped by outsiders. About 700,000 immigrants have arrived – more than in any other EU country. Yet it rests on a flimsy basis of fact. In the 10 months since Romania entered the EU, Romanians have been accused of nine separate cases of murder against Italians, a number dwarfed by, for example, gang murders in Naples...more...


It is perhaps worth noting that Italy is closest among EU nations to Japan when it comes to the problems of low birth rate and rural depopulation.
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Postby Adhesive » Sun Nov 04, 2007 7:49 am

Was that a terribly written article or do I just have poor reading comprehension? It reads almost like a translation.
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Postby Mulboyne » Mon Nov 05, 2007 12:11 am

Guardian: Violence as Italy expels migrants
Three Romanians were in hospitals in Rome yesterday - one of them seriously injured - after being attacked by a masked, club-wielding gang on Friday night in the latest escalation of racial tension in Italy following the beating to death of a naval captain's wife...Emotions were again running high yesterday at a funeral service in Rome for Giovanna Reggiani, the 47-year-old woman who was discovered fatally injured in a ditch on Tuesday after being savagely attacked...Ms Reggiani's death has profoundly shocked the Italian middle classes. She was robbed, stripped of most of her clothes and ferociously beaten in a lonely part of northern Rome, but one that was until recently considered safe and respectable enough for officers' married quarters. In just a few years, it has become a haunt for prostitutes and pimps, dotted with encampments set up by the latest wave of immigrants from eastern European...

...A spokesman for a newly founded far-right group, Fabio Sabbatani Schiuma, said he condemned the attack but called it 'the product of a climate of exasperation'. Anti-foreigner graffiti on the walls of the surrounding, working-class area echoed his words. One woman said: 'We've had enough of them. My dad was mugged for his pension just at the end of this road.' The vast majority of the 560,000 Romanians who have poured into Italy since visa restrictions were lifted five years ago have come to work. But the government says they account for a disproportionate share of crime, including more than five per cent of murders...
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Postby Tsuru » Mon Nov 05, 2007 12:38 am

Just so we know who we're dealing with:

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Typical good for nothing pikey, complete with cheap pendant. Source article, in Italian: http://www.ilmessaggero.it/articolo.php?id=12252&sez=HOME_ROMA#

It should be said that the woman who reported the crime to the police was also Romanian, living in the same squatter camp. They're not all bad, I think the demolition of the camp was a bit of an exaggerated response. They'll have to live somewhere, and it's better to know where they are so you can keep an eye on them. If they can't squat in Tor di Quinto they'll do it somewhere else.

That's not to say the Italians aren't 100% right in showing them who's boss as there's usually no other way of dealing with these people... the knowledge of one crime leading to the bulldozing of your camp will hopefully spark some more social control among these gypsies.
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Postby AssKissinger » Mon Nov 05, 2007 2:13 am

Japan as a country in denial about its need for an accommodating immigration policy


Japan needs more immigrants like I need a hole in the head.
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Postby amdg » Mon Nov 05, 2007 2:33 am

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Postby AssKissinger » Mon Nov 05, 2007 3:40 am

amdg wrote:If you didn't have a hole in your head you wouldn't eat.


If you didn't have a hole in your head you wouldn't shit.
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Postby Adhesive » Mon Nov 05, 2007 4:00 am

Wait, I don't understand, are they Roma (Gypsies) or Romanian? I thought there was a difference?

I think being anti-roma is a very different thing from being anti-immigration. Like the article says, I'm sure immigrants as a whole do commit less crime than the natives, but I wonder what those stats would look like if you just figured in the Roma.
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Postby Tsuru » Mon Nov 05, 2007 4:14 am

They're roma as well as Romanian. Their problem is that they aren't exactly well liked in Romania (as in: they are persecuted), and since Romania joined the EU they've migrated in their 100000s to places like Italy.

If they would just look further than Italy's big cities there are hundreds of thousands of square kilometers of mountains and abandoned towns in places like Calabria (the toe of Italy's boot), left when Italians themselves migrated north to the big cites and across the Atlantic to escape poverty in the 1930s. I would think no-one could have a problem with them there.

Of course a Calabria ghosttown doesn't typically provide the convenience of being able to steal someone elses electricity.
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Postby Adhesive » Mon Nov 05, 2007 4:19 am

Tsuru wrote:They're roma as well as Romanian. Their problem is that they aren't exactly well liked in Romania (as in: they are persecuted), and since Romania joined the EU they've migrated in their 100000s to places like Italy.


Got ya.
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Re: Global Immigration Debate

Postby Buraku » Sun May 09, 2021 5:55 pm

Foreigners in fear of Japan's immigration proposals
https://www3.nhk.or.jp/nhkworld/en/news ... ries/1628/

Novelists urge government to abandon its immigration bill
http://www.asahi.com/ajw/articles/14344047
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Re: Global Immigration Debate

Postby Taka-Okami » Sun May 09, 2021 9:01 pm

Buraku wrote:Foreigners in fear of Japan's immigration proposals
https://www3.nhk.or.jp/nhkworld/en/news ... ries/1628/

Novelists urge government to abandon its immigration bill
http://www.asahi.com/ajw/articles/14344047



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Re: Global Immigration Debate

Postby Grumpy Gramps » Mon May 10, 2021 5:53 pm

Time to tear down all borders, so everyone can live wherever they want. Nobody got time for this medieval archaic passport/visa junk.
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Re: Global Immigration Debate

Postby Wage Slave » Mon May 10, 2021 8:00 pm

I'm with you Grumpy. Just let it rip and see where the pieces fall.
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Re: Global Immigration Debate

Postby Taka-Okami » Tue May 11, 2021 4:33 pm

Grumpy Gramps wrote:Time to tear down all borders, so everyone can live wherever they want. Nobody got time for this medieval archaic passport/visa junk.



I agree. As long as rich cunts aren't allowed to put borders around their house.
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Re: Global Immigration Debate

Postby Buraku » Tue May 11, 2021 7:33 pm

and yet They both mutilate the genitals of little kids

The pushers of crazy Believer faith, they smuggle people, but it seems Atheism or Agnostics and Apostate movement grows, the Believer pushers smuggle the human people while at the same time they are running out of sheep followers.

One smuggles guns and jihad and smuggles mohammedan people, another pushes for open borders and smuggles criminal people, they push other stuff also, degeneracy industries drugs, pornography?

the kids of today they never got to see the Wild West of the free interwebs, there are echos of it while might survive on places like 4Chan, ruqqus, Bitchute etc

A celeb says something that offends the Neo-Left, somebody calls out radical fascism of YoutubeZuckerberg and others, President calls out Big Tech.
then suddenly its screams of shut it down!!
They on the right were offended by a Jackson nipple at a Sportsball show, now its Take-a-Knee for the BLM Antifa Rioters?
Some of them on the side of Left and Right can change their color and form, for example a Shapeshifter Chuck Schumer and crazy idea of Race Wars and his chosen tribes, whats good for his people is bad for America, whats bad for his tribe is good for the USA? The mohammedans or crypto-muzzies in the West can also behave this way, and Mr Jewish that said the protests were more devastating than peral harbor...Chuck Schumer supports a charity to reduce abortion for Israeli Jews but he is pro abortion for Americans. He wants Walls Protection Barriers for funded Israel but Open Borders for USA?
The weirdos they've managed to equate porn/sexual independence with feminism. Politically toxic and cancer and Absolutely disgusting.
The porno a worse addiction hit than Japanese video games, Mass Control, zombification and pacification... Feminism of the West wants your cars keys, the divorce, the house, even take your pet dog...the Traditional American Family is Now Truly Broken? Is it any wonder stupid movements like 'TheRedPill' or MGTOW grew?
...how dare you speak about funding Israel's Wall
another greatest ally!?? ... doesnt like free speech

You like your bacon, enjoy a beer, you like music, never give up pork. Fry of Bacons, pork chops, Southern style ribs, the pork roasts are all staple foods....yet some religions might take offense to your lifestyle

Two of them 'Chosen People' mutilate the genitals of children, both pushing Radical Religious nonsense while at the same time open borders propaganda in the West...so then .... Why no Open Borders for places like Saudi and Israel? ....back in the USA, the Mormon church and all their old weirdos with Masonic banngers is now getting on the refugee resettlement bandwagon, so why not fill all those Mormon schools with Brazilians, Iranians, Vietnamese, Indians, Somalia etc the Vatican Roman Catholic Church also pushes human trafficking, so why not fill the Vatican with Nigerians, Mexicans, North Koreans, Pakistanis, Kenyans etc Refugee Resettlement Industry more involved in human smuggling, its Lutherans This Time, then its the British English Church of old England, Lutheran Immigration and Refugee Service and Rapefugee and Refujihadi Services, the Church World Service doing human trafficking, the Jerusalem Israelis people smugglers and human trafficking, the Episcopal Migration Ministries, Hebrew Immigrant Aid Society...why not just smash these churches and temples and fill them with random people from the Third world.

https://files.catbox.moe/ji6spr.mp4

What would take a real paradigm shift of that organized stage show, the hegelian dialectic and False choice fallacy

What is really going on? Was America and much of the West bought and sold like a cheap prostitute??
Team Left has a soft spot for the Mohammedans, Team B likes its Judea Zealots
Yet all theater, a stage play, Two sides of the same Coin?
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Re: Global Immigration Debate

Postby Buraku » Mon May 15, 2023 10:03 pm

Some think its fantastic to open their borders to certain 'Exotic' cultures

Taka-Okami wrote:
Grumpy Gramps wrote:Time to tear down all borders, so everyone can live wherever they want. Nobody got time for this medieval archaic passport/visa junk.



I agree. As long as rich cunts aren't allowed to put borders around their house.


Allowing in types that bomb concerts and shoot cartoonists and murder people like

Hitoshi Igarashi 五十嵐

Others could be fucked in the head by politics

or just mentally retarded?

5 Moments That Defined Trump’s Record on Immigration
https://news.yahoo.com/5-moments-define ... 04614.html

some disgusting islamic retard now runs the Scottish Nationalist party

'Humza Yousaf'



A constant stream of news of Albanian, Syria, Afghan, Chechen getting cash to kill the people of Ukraine

2 Britbongs and a Maroccan were captured if the Britbong Mercs were fighting for Europe why would the join a jihadi Moroccan? 1 Moroccan sentenced



islamic Merc immigrate to Ukraine and pick up paychecks when they kill Ruskie or Ukrainian, sometimes if paid more they can switch side and then switches sides and kill another group once again for a different bitcoin payment

India Hindu news channels gives reports on claims

Open Borders allows in THE RELIGION OF SHIT



Sunak Faces Pressure From UK Home Secretary to Cut Immigration
https://uk.news.yahoo.com/sunak-faces-p ... 08075.html

Japan lower house passes controversial revision of immigration law
https://english.kyodonews.net/news/2023 ... n-law.html

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It is perhaps worth noting that Italy is closest among EU nations to Japan when it comes to the problems of low birth rate and rural depopulation.


Getting back to the original topic and Morality lessons from the crime ridden, pedo infested and money thieving Vatican

Pope Francis and Italian PM Meloni raise concerns over Italy's declining birth rate
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3RAhzsqEJgk

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Re: Global Immigration Debate

Postby Buraku » Wed May 17, 2023 9:19 pm

Japan to mobilize $1 billion to help nations around Ukraine accept refugees
https://japantoday.com/category/politic ... -refugees2

Chernobyl looking places



Asylum seekers fearful of changes to Japan's immigration law
https://www3.nhk.or.jp/nhkworld/en/news ... 162617331/





Japan's Evaporated People
https://kottke.org/23/05/japans-evaporated-people






Tokyo ranked as world’s second wealthiest city after New York, by millionaires count
https://www.asahi.com/ajw/articles/14894025

Controversial immigration bill passes Lower House - The Japan …
https://epaper.japantimes.co.jp/article/281479280753572
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