"super free" uni students....learning from grandpa

[blackcat]

READ THIS ISHIHARA.
and tell us whos to blame

http://www.weeklypost.com/030707/030707a.htm#one

[Big Booger]

It's gaijin debauchery at its finest. They see gaijin screwing like rabbits, so these Japanese guys formulate these rape clubs to get in on the action. I say we lock up every gaijin for 1 day and cut these rape groups a break..
I mean they are just having fun right?

what a load of shit.

[blackcat]

yes just virile japanese guys following in grandaddys footsteps.....I mean look at how organised they were, the way they covered their tracks and blamed the victim!

This is no doubt how things were done in the "comfort women" days...and also with human trafficking hostesses today.

it will be interesting to see what happens to them.

[AssKissinger]

The following is from a Japan Times article:

The accused "Super Free" rapists have said that the sex was consensual, a claim that most people will find less than believable in a case involving five men and one woman, but the "elite" factor has made it more of a bombshell than the usual rape incidents, which are rarely covered in the media unless they involve celebrities or U.S. servicemen. Some TV stations have broadcast head shots of the five alleged rapists, which is very strange since the media usually don't even reveal names. Documentary filmmaker Tatsuya Mori, in his Asahi Shimbun column, speculated that the press is being especially harsh on the five because they are connected to Waseda, even if only three of them are actually enrolled at the prestigious university (one is from Nihon University and the other from Gakushuin).

[blackcat]

WE ARE RAPISITS HERES OUR HOMEPAGE

just virile, japanese boys having fun!!!

I also read a rumour that one or two well known presenters..or "talent" were victims of this group?? but I dont know how true this is.

http://goro.s1.x-beat.com/SuperFree/SuperFree.html

[Big Booger]

That link blackcat posted with the pics certainly would give one the impression that those girls were enjoying the "Sex Party"

I mean, what girl shows her bush in front of a camera, smiling all the while, with other girls and guys in the room, unless they are slutty? I can't be sure about this assumption, and in fact, those images could have been staged.. but it looked like to me those girls could have left at any time the sekusu was getting a little hena ya baka ya yabai?

[Taro Toporific]

...getting a little hena ya baka ya yabai?

Hey, the Super Free guys aren't any prizes either!

Actual pictures the Super Free guys submitted to "attract" more women. Sheesh.

[blackcat]

Big Booger
well it mat look that way and may be that way in this pic. but if you take the time to read the first link I posted you will see some girls on a magazine are titled "rape assistanto".

The way these guys work is all in the link..basically its a party where unknowing girls are invited, plyed with drinks and raped. Its date rape en mass Its too late to escape outnumbered by professional rapists...also the leader was said to force his victims to smile when being attacked so he knew if there was any trial he could say.....well what you just said...
as I said, looks like these pigs got some tips from grandpa

[Big Booger]

http://goro.s1.x-beat.com/SuperFree/rape07.jpg

I point you to that image. All ladies, one nearly nude.

I agree, the images look like they were staged to some degree, and indeed it could be that these women were victims.

I am not basing it totally on the images.. they girls look slutty even in the normal pose:

http://goro.s1.x-beat.com/SuperFree/rape08.jpg

What I think happened, and I could be wrong, these guys hired some whores to come over, and wanted a little group bang.. took the photos, and did the deed...

But then it could be that they invited over some skanky looking non-whores, took fun-time photos, then gang raped them...

Hard to tell what really happened really. But the images certainly portray a night of sex in a group. Whether it was willing or not.. I can point you to one image that shows one girl was uncomfortable with the whole thing:

http://goro.s1.x-beat.com/SuperFree/rape09.jpg

Look at her hands, they are covering her breasts.. saying stop in a subtle manner.. at least that is how I interpret it..

[Taro Toporific]

...some girls on a magazine are titled "rape assistanto"...basically its a party where unknowing girls are invited, plyed with drinks and raped. Its date rape en mass ... looks like these pigs got some tips from grandpa

Via the Japan Times...

When invisible, one feels no shame
DaCapo (Aug. 20)

http://www.japantimes.co.jp/cgi-bin/getarticle.pl5?fd20030824tc.htm

"There are two kinds of rules," observes Kunio Suzuki, founder of the neorightist group Issuikai. "Society's rules, and club rules or peer-group rules." The former embody stern, no-nonsense common sense -- what parents should be teaching their children. Club rules can embody anything at all (Waseda University's Super-Free date-rape club had rules that can land those obeying them in jail). Young women painting their toenails on a train might draw frowns (which they ostentatiously ignore), but their comportment falls quite within the bounds, such as they are, set by their peers.

"When group rules overwhelm society's rules," Suzuki writes, "you have the makings of a shameless country."

The root problem, in his view, is anonymity. "The Japanese seem to feel that in a group you can get away with anything. You become like the invisible man," he says. "I, myself, was like that when I was involved in radical rightwing politics, barking slogans into a sound-truck loudspeaker. That, too, was a kind of anonymity."

[blackcat]

Taro
good link, that is so true of Japan....group mentality and no one is responsible.
Ie: nanjing/unit731/waseda......oh well these things happen

I recall the comments of a mother of a boy who was arrested with bullying,extorting money from and finally murdering a classmate....
"I was relieved when I learned he didnt act alone"
(he acted with 2 other boys..all aged 16). he son is a fucking killer at 16 and shes pleased he killed with mates.
This is one dysfunctional society.

No doubt the victims will be blamed as much as possible here, they shouldnt wear sexy clothes/drink/partyetc.

[AssKissinger]

5 students, company exec admit charges in Waseda gang rape case


Wednesday, September 17, 2003 at 15:00 JST
TOKYO — Five former students at three elite universities and a company executive admitted Wednesday to charges of rape in connection with a Waseda University club that was reportedly involved in gang rapes.

"I deeply repent and am very sorry," Shinichiro Wada, 29, a former Waseda student and leader of the now-defunct Super Free social club, said at the opening hearing of their trial at the Tokyo District Court Wednesday.

But Wada insisted that the rape "was not planned."

The five other defendants are Junichiro Kobayashi and Toshiyuki Numasaki, both 22 and from Waseda, Sho Fujimura, 21, from Nihon University, Daisuke Kobayashi, also 21, from Gakushuin University, and company executive Hideyuki Kishimoto, 28.

Wada and the other students were all expelled from their universities after they were arrested in June and the club was disbanded.

Kishimoto and Wada ran the club and used their residence as an office. Kishimoto was arrested in July.

According to the indictment, the defendants intoxicated and gang-raped a female university student on May 18 in a building in Tokyo's Roppongi entertainment district after a party the club organized. In December 2001, they also allegedly intoxicated and gang-raped another female student at the residence that Wada and Kishimoto shared.

Super Free was run like a company. It organized huge parties in famous discos and clubs in Tokyo and other places, attracting many women who wanted to meet men from famous universities.

The incident shocked the public as the defendants were from some of the most prestigious universities in Japan.

The arrest in June was followed by a series of stunning remarks by ruling Liberal Democratic Party politicians seen to justify gang rape and which critics called discriminatory and offensive to women. (Kyodo News)

[Big Booger]

But Wada insisted that the rape "was not planned."

yeah, not that they had a website with the rules, manual, and charter listed...
Even citing techniques.. I wonder how they will explain that? The website came after we did it???

[Big Booger]

:P DP

[AssKissinger]

Naoki Wakamatsu, 27, was sentenced for his role in a series of gang rapes

BTW, I love the title of this thread..."learning from grandpa"

[Taro Toporific]

Update Hit It Girls

Naoki Wakamatsu, 27, was sentenced for his role in a series of gang rapes

:

WTF! 10 million yen a year for 7+ years = 32 months in prison?! There's no way for me to even comment.

SUPER FREE CONVICTIONS START
College gang-rape trio get up to 32 months
The Japan Times: April 9, 2004
http://www.japantimes.co.jp/cgi-bin/getarticle.pl5?nn20040409a3.htm

...Wada, a Waseda University student, became Super Free leader in 1995, a hierarchy was established that classified members as "first string," "reserves" or "boys." Each level was allotted quotas for selling tickets to parties organized by the group.
Wada is believed to have made more than 10 million yen a year from ticket sales. The parties sometimes drew more than 1,000 people.....
Currently, the minimum prison term for rape is two years, lower than the five years for robbery. A minimum penalty of four years for gang rape is under consideration.

[cstaylor]

How does that go again? TIJ?

[Taro Toporific]

They see gaijin screwing like rabbits, so these Japanese guys formulate these rape clubs to get in on the action. I say we lock up every gaijin for 1 day and cut these rape groups a break..
I mean they are just having fun right?

This TV interview alludes to the need for, 'Japanese guys formulate these rape clubs to get in on the action.' Specifically: "Ever since we were defeated in World War II, Japanese men have not been able to recover."

Top Japanese university battles rape allegations
ABC Online, Australia - 1 June
TV PROGRAM TRANSCRIPT
LOCATION: [url]http://www.abc.net.au/7.30/content/2004/s1120012.htm
Broadcast: 31/05/2004[/url]

...RYUICHI DAIGO, JOURNALIST (TRANSLATION): Because those girls longed for the city life, they were willing to believe anything.
They thought skolling drinks was the Tokyo style.
It's come out in court that some of the women actually consented to be gang raped.
They voluntarily submitted their bodies.
Some later became girlfriends of Super Free members.

MARK SIMKIN: The ABC has obtained extraordinary video footage that shows what happened after the parties began.
The women outnumber the men 20 to 1.
Proceedings are carefully orchestrated.
Some of the techniques are similar to those used by cults.
The charismatic Super Free members certainly behave like gods, whipping the crowds into a frenzy.

RYUICHI DAIGO (TRANSLATION): It's often said that Japanese people cannot do anything alone but, instead, have a group mentality.
This is an extreme example of that.
The parties are like some kind of cult or new religion.

... SHINTARO MIYAWAKI, ARTIST (TRANSLATION): Ever since we were defeated in World War II, Japanese men have not been able to recover.
They have got weaker, while women have become stronger.
Men have developed an inferiority complex.
That's why they like to read 'Rapeman'.

Other members of Super Free are yet to receive a verdict, including the alleged ringleader. ...

[dingosatemybaby]

Waseda's been on a downward trajectory ever since they admitted Ryoko Hirosue. (She's since dropped out.)

OT: My favorite recent Marvin Headline (tm):

"Japan's real gross national product: feces, vomit and vaginal yeast"

No alliteration in this one, but lots of vivid images, and a respectable, if hackneyed, pun.

[AssKissinger]

Last year, a 17-year-old schoolboy admitted raping 31 women, but the case hardly rated a mention in most newspapers.

I missed that story and that's hard to believe considering it's just the type of sordid shit I'm constantly exposed to on FG (thanks to Taro :P and the warui kos who pull these stunts). But don't worry, I looked it up on Mainichi and I got the link LUNATIC JAPANESE TEENAGE RAPIST

One of the victims, a 26-year-old woman from Chuo-ku, suffered a broken back after she desperately tried to escape from the rapist and fell from her second-floor apartment on Feb. 12. She has been bound to a wheelchair because of the injury and lost her job.

I bet this kid does at least a week in reform school for that shit.

It's come out in court that some of the women actually consented to be gang raped.

I gotta brush off old Webster. I thought rape was a word used to describe non-consensual sex.


This is also interesting. About Rapeman

This movie, 'Rapeman', is based on a comic created in the '90s that's still popular today.

Keisuke Uasake is a schoolteacher by day, Japanese superhero by night.

He rapes women who have wronged, broken up with boyfriends, or swindled someone out of money.

Often the woman ends up falling in love with the Rapeman.

She's certainly not presented as a victim.

FEMALE CHARACTER TO RAPE VICTIM IN 'RAPEMAN' (TRANSLATION): I'm not giving you any sympathy.

You can't go on as a woman if you get discouraged by this sort of thing

Is anyone out there familiar with Steve Albini's band named after that manga? I thought in the original Rapeman, he raped other men who had done something bad but I never actually read it. Anybody know anything more about the original Rapeman manga?

[Taro Toporific]

Sex on brain sends guys screwy

Meaning Rob?

[Carlito]

during my undergraduate studies at an elite japanese university, i was part of one of such 'rape cicles'. these are called 'incare circles' for 'inter-college circles'; their sole purpose of existance is for guys and girls from different universities to party (and i mean party) together. most circles really exist only for that, socializing within or without school - but the majority is more subtle and uses tennis, or soccer as an excuse. thus people who are attracted to these circles are have the expectation to have fun unlimited, and should be aware of what the downside could be.

believe me when i tell you that the people who come to these parties (both male and female) are no saints. there is a lot of sex and cash moving hands. the organizers make money and get laid a lot - the girls who go there party like there is no tomorrow, coming usually from rural or not so popular high-school backgrounds. there is no doubt that there are rapes and and that things get out of hand, but then again that is a risk which is always present in entertainment districts where alcohol flows freely - the same rules apply all over.

there are hundreds of clubs & circles just like that one out there. the only difference i can see in these guys' modus operandi is that they used critical mass to intimidate and peer-pressure girls by singling them out and separating them from their friends, who would have usually provided cover against 1-2 persistant males but not against 6. they crossed the line emboldened by their success. or maybe they just picked the wrong girl at the wrong time. but this activity is not new nor over, and the reason is that there are still plenty of people who are willing to risk it to have a good time.

[kamome]

during my undergraduate studies at an elite japanese university, i was part of one of such 'rape cicles'.

Hey, Carlito, thanks for the insider's perspective on this issue. Uh, did you just admit openly to having raped college girls? When you say you were a member of a rape circle, that surely is the implication.

[lostintranslation]

i wonder what they'll do for their "super free" time in jail?

[Carlito]

note that participation and 'participation' are mutually exclusive, yet commonly exhaustive. for, while i was a member of one such 'rape-circles' -with major ''- (in fact i created it with a friend of mine), i did not get personally involved in any sort of rape activity, not did i witness any; however, there were several people who got very, let's say, entangled in the aforementioned drinking parties, and took their fun elsewhere (back rooms, staircases, bathrooms, hotel room when the party was in a hotel, you mention it), or disappeared from the main stage of events, in pairs and in larger groups. you shoud bear in mind that these rapes are not something that ocurr where the larger mass of people is located.

there was very explicit behaviour in the larger stage as well, as can be seen from the pictures (i have witnessed very similar scenes) but never a rape. personally, i never got involved in the shadier areas of activity because i knew that the repercussions on my career and life would be abysmal if arrested for it. however, that did not stop others from doing it. some of you may remember a similar incident in 1997, where a rugby team from Teikyo (i think) raped one or several girls in a karaoke box. they are the same sort of people, that gets involved in 'incare circles'. in fact, i knew several of the scumbags, one of them from my own association, who were later expelled from university with no other punishment.

that, however, does not detract from the fact that i engaged in consensual sexual activities with several college girls that came to our parties.

[AssKissinger]

that, however, does not detract from the fact that i engaged in consensual sexual activities with several college girls that came to our parties.

How many?

[kamome]

that, however, does not detract from the fact that i engaged in consensual sexual activities with several college girls that came to our parties.

How many?

That's right. I also want to know how many. And did this include 1x1 encounters only or group activities?

[Carlito]

let me just say that my golden days are over. like many a fool i am still looking for the chimerical el dorado; i keep hoping that i and have only gotten past the silver hills. on the other hand, as snow starts to populate the mountain range, what hope is there to find any more gold. you only have got as much time as you have got...

all my interaction with those college girls was limited to 1x1's as far as i can remember. a few of them were more than ready for offroad activity though, i must add.

[kamome]

golden...fool...el dorado...silver hills, blah blah

Uhhhh....yeah.

[dingosatemybaby]

golden...fool...el dorado...silver hills, blah blah

Uhhhh....yeah.

Well, Carlito did say at the end that "It`s all about spread."
That part was clear enough.