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Postby Mulboyne » Wed Mar 30, 2005 9:47 pm

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People's Daily: Sales of Asahi Beer that supports Japan's history textbook rejected in Changchun
The compilation committee of Japan's new history textbooks distorts Japanese history of aggression...at the juncture when the compilation committee found it hard to keep itself going, Asahi Beer, Mitsubishi Heavy Industries and many other large enterprises inclined to the Right-wing provided it with ample funds, an honorary advisor to Asahi Beer openly declared at a compilation committee report (history): "Politicians who do not pay visit to the Yasukuni Shrine are unqualified to hold power."...This reporter...has learned from some supermarkets, and Japanese and South Korean restaurants in Changchun City of Jilin Province that...the sales volume of Asahi Beer began a downturn from yesterday...Changchun citizen Mr. Li gave a phone call to People's Daily, saying: "Now people are burning with anger at the practice of Asahi Beer and other enterprises which went so far as to openly support Japan's adulteration of the history of its aggressive war against China...To safeguard the dignity of the Chinese, I decide not to drink Asahi Beer."
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Postby Big Booger » Wed Mar 30, 2005 10:48 pm

What a bunch of babies... boo hoo...

I suppose Japanese should not by chinese "IBM" computers anymore because Chinese teach hatred toward Japanese for historical events that happened 50-70 years ago.... :roll: :roll: :roll:
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Postby Buraku » Wed Mar 30, 2005 10:50 pm

SKoreans helping the antiJapan moves, Seoul Young Korea Academy and other groups demonstrated iand declared a boycott against products by Japanese companies that support the rightist textbook. 2,000 members of 18 civic groups in North Gyeongsang Province gathered in Pohang and demanded an apology from Japan for claiming sovereignty over Dokdo / Takeshima, some South Korean local governments have stopped sister-city ties with Japanese towns, I wonder if Japan will start island trouble with Taiwan and Russia next ?
Japanese Governor's like Blinky and Jimento rightists are always crying about the fate of a couple of dozen Japanese who were abducted by the NorthKoreans over the last 20 years while conveniently forgetting the 5,390,910 Koreans forced into slave labor in Asia and the 668,800 Koreans that were brought to Japan as forced labor, and sexualslavery during the warthatneverwas otherwise known as WWII by the rest of the civilized world, The UN ain't happy with Ishihara's racism and it is estimated that around 500,000 Koreans died as a result of Japan's treatment of Korean slave laborers between that mysterious gap in Japan's history 1937-1945. Looks like South Korea may be starting that boycott ?
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Postby Ketou » Wed Mar 30, 2005 11:31 pm

Buraku wrote: I wonder if Japan will start island trouble with Taiwan and Russia next ?


What do you mean start? I think increase would be a better choice. :)
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Postby NeoNecroNomiCron » Wed Mar 30, 2005 11:51 pm

Big Booger wrote:What a bunch of babies... boo hoo...

I suppose Japanese should not by chinese "IBM" computers anymore because Chinese teach hatred toward Japanese for historical events that happened 50-70 years ago.... :roll: :roll: :roll:


On the same note, boo hoo for black issues in America, slavery ended 50 fucking years ago, white people from countries that never even praticed it has to listen to that shit everywhere.

Now black people are selling white russian women in kabukicho. Ya think they would have some kind of hessitation.
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Postby cstaylor » Thu Mar 31, 2005 12:23 am

NeoNecroNomiCron wrote:On the same note, boo hoo for black issues in America, slavery ended 50 fucking years ago, white people from countries that never even praticed it has to listen to that shit everywhere.
Actually slavery ended over 100 years ago, but Jim Crow laws in the South kept black americans from reaching their full potential.
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Postby dimwit » Thu Mar 31, 2005 12:25 am

I disagree. If you don't like the politics of the company you should boycott it. If Asahi sell are important enought in Korea and China they will be forced to change their policy or lose money. It is a pity more Japanese don't know the connections between corporate Japan and right wing groups.
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Postby Big Booger » Thu Mar 31, 2005 2:30 am

dimwit wrote:I disagree. If you don't like the politics of the company you should boycott it. If Asahi sell are important enought in Korea and China they will be forced to change their policy or lose money. It is a pity more Japanese don't know the connections between corporate Japan and right wing groups.


I don't give a rat. Boycott to your hearts content... A company that supports a domestic issue should be attacked by foreign countries with their petty boycotting, that's lame.

I could see if they supported an issue related directly to China or South Korea.. but Asahi supporting a committee (either right or left wing) is no business of China or South Korea.. IMHO.

How would Chinese feel if Japan stopped buying their produce because dirt farmers in China are taught to hate Japanese in their textbook, that are sanctioned and put out by the repressive government?
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Postby omae mona » Thu Mar 31, 2005 2:37 am

NeoNecroNomiCron wrote:On the same note, boo hoo for black issues in America, slavery ended 50 fucking years ago

We're actually coming up on the 143rd anniversary in a few weeks.

Now black people are selling white russian women in kabukicho. Ya think they would have some kind of hessitation.

As human beings, yes. But remember for the most part, those guys are no more American than you (typically they're from a few African countries), so I don't think the comparison to U.S. slavery in the 18th & 19th century is bound to be on their minds as much as we'd hope.
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Postby Buraku » Thu Mar 31, 2005 3:33 am

Big Booger wrote:I don't give a rat. Boycott to your hearts content....


Wow how did Booger become such a perverted Japanofile ? I don't think the Chinese give a fVck, we've already tried boycotts and sanctions on 'em and it failed, they're growing into a military and economic superpower.
Now what happens when folks start a boycott on Nippon because of the Yasukuni politics, somehow I doubt Japan could respond to a trade war with the USA if things heat up over the beef ban or if SKoreans and Japan start blocking eachothers goods, Japan is highly vunerable in this area...remember the econimic shocks of the 70s ?
you got stocks or shares with Asahi, with an Asia boycott looming I'd say now is the time to dump 'em Asahi-shares down the squat toilet

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Postby AssKissinger » Thu Mar 31, 2005 6:41 am

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Lawsuit filed over Japanese history book


March 30, 2005 2:18 PM EST
MATSUYAMA, Japan, Mar 30, 2005 (United Press International via COMTEX) -- A class action suit was filed Wednesday against a Japanese regional governor over alleged slurs against China and North Korea in new school history books.

The lawsuit against Gov. Moriyuki Kato of the Ehime prefecture by some 260 people seeks about $120,000 each, and demands a public apology for allowing the use of the text that blames China and North Korea for "causing injury to Japan," the Kyodo news agency said.

Filed in the Matsuyama District Court, they claim the Ehime board of education's adoption of the junior high school history textbook, edited mainly by the Japanese Society for History Textbook Reform, caused them mental anguish.

Much of the research for the book was funded by major Japanese corporations such as Asahi Brewery and Mitsubishi Heavy Industries. In China, news of the book sparked an impromptu boycott of the popular Japanese beer, the People's Daily reported from Beijing.

Supermarket chains reportedly were pulling Asahi from its shelves, and bars also were moving the popular Japanese beer out of view, the newspaper said.
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Postby devicenull » Thu Mar 31, 2005 5:54 pm

Yay, get rid of that vile crap. Maybe they will import some real beer now to replace it.
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Postby Big Booger » Thu Mar 31, 2005 6:10 pm

Buraku wrote:
Big Booger wrote:I don't give a rat. Boycott to your hearts content....


Wow how did Booger become such a perverted Japanofile ? I don't think the Chinese give a fVck, we've already tried boycotts and sanctions on 'em and it failed, they're growing into a military and economic superpower.
Now what happens when folks start a boycott on Nippon because of the Yasukuni politics, somehow I doubt Japan could respond to a trade war with the USA if things heat up over the beef ban or if SKoreans and Japan start blocking eachothers goods, Japan is highly vunerable in this area...remember the econimic shocks of the 70s ?
you got stocks or shares with Asahi, with an Asia boycott looming I'd say now is the time to dump 'em Asahi-shares down the squat toilet


If the Chinese don't give a fuck, then why in the hell are Japanese textbooks an issue to be boycotted over in China. In this case, Chinese are babies..

I don't think the bulk of Asahi sales are in China to begin with. They've barely been in the market in China for about 7 years...

And I am not a Japanophile. I am simply Anti-Chinese boo hooing.. :D

and I'd say Asahi are doing quite well domestically...

http://www.asahibeer.co.jp/english/ir/monthly_sales/05_02ms.html


Seems like to me, most rifts develop over what happened in the past.. Chinese, Korean, et al, haven't learned to get over what happened when the majority of people were not even born... It's silly to hold on to grudges like they're doing... makes me think of when kids hold on to grudges and bicker and quarrel over BS that otherwise means diddly-squat today..

You want a reason to boycott, the world boycotting the near slave-like labor standards in Chinese sweatshops. Those nike shoes you're wearing were made by the sweat and effort of someone who is paid far less than their effort is worth, with no regards to safety..

There are many other reasons to boycott companies.. instead of some pansie dispute over textbooks..... what a load of shit.
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Postby Buraku » Thu Mar 31, 2005 10:04 pm

Ruskies wondering about these islands, Taiwanese looking for a sexslave apology, S.Koreans unhappy, Philippines, Vietnam, China, and they banned Canadian beef.... I wonder who the far right will be starting trouble with next
...perhaps the scapegoat theory is true as the Economy goes down the squat toilet Ultra Nationalism rises, it won't obey labor standards with its karoshi work force and the UN and Interpol are unhappy with the school-sex and Japan human trafficing, is it wise to behave with such disregard.
Too bad the japanophiles can't pull their heads out of theirass, using the Shintaro scapegoat method isn't the best way cos if the Japanese go against an Economic superpower like the USA or Euros they're gonna feel real pain.
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Postby dimwit » Thu Mar 31, 2005 11:44 pm

MATSUYAMA, Japan, Mar 30, 2005 (United Press International via COMTEX) -- A class action suit was filed Wednesday against a Japanese regional governor over alleged slurs against China and North Korea in new school history books.

The lawsuit against Gov. Moriyuki Kato of the Ehime prefecture by some 260 people seeks about $120,000 each, and demands a public apology for allowing the use of the text that blames China and North Korea for "causing injury to Japan," the Kyodo news agency said.

Filed in the Matsuyama District Court, they claim the Ehime board of education's adoption of the junior high school history textbook, edited mainly by the Japanese Society for History Textbook Reform, caused them mental anguish.

Much of the research for the book was funded by major Japanese corporations such as Asahi Brewery and Mitsubishi Heavy Industries. In China, news of the book sparked an impromptu boycott of the popular Japanese beer, the People's Daily reported from Beijing.

Supermarket chains reportedly were pulling Asahi from its shelves, and bars also were moving the popular Japanese beer out of view, the newspaper said.


We are very proud of our lovable governor. :roll: He used to be a Education Ministry bureaucrat before becoming governor which gives you a bit of an indication as to which way the wind is blowing. In Matsuyama, his views are not popular, but given the largely rural character of the prefecture Kato can roll over any opponent he faces (what is Tokyo's excuse for Ishihara?). Right now, however there is a major fuss because Pak Jun Ha is coming to Matsuyama next week to to a concert in Dogo Park, so there my be a connection in the timing of the suit.

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Postby devicenull » Thu Mar 31, 2005 11:46 pm

Big Booger wrote:You want a reason to boycott, the world boycotting the near slave-like labor standards in Chinese sweatshops. Those nike shoes you're wearing were made by the sweat and effort of someone who is paid far less than their effort is worth, with no regards to safety..

There are many other reasons to boycott companies.. instead of some pansie dispute over textbooks..... what a load of shit.


yay for not understanding the job market in china for unskilled labor.

Maybe China will "get over" a slaughter that even Nazis thought was barbaric when Japan actually apologizes or admits wrongdoing. Chinese have every damned right to hate the Japanese... something that the Japanese sheep here don't seem to understand anymore.
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Postby dimwit » Fri Apr 01, 2005 12:02 am

Big Booger wrote:Seems like to me, most rifts develop over what happened in the past.. Chinese, Korean, et al, haven't learned to get over what happened when the majority of people were not even born... It's silly to hold on to grudges like they're doing... makes me think of when kids hold on to grudges and bicker and quarrel over BS that otherwise means diddly-squat today..


I don't agree. The way to bridge cultural gaps is to have an understanding of the past, not to whitewash it. Lying about things that are obvious to everyone only demonstrates Japanese arrogance and can't hope to improve the situation.

You want a reason to boycott, the world boycotting the near slave-like labor standards in Chinese sweatshops. Those nike shoes you're wearing were made by the sweat and effort of someone who is paid far less than their effort is worth, with no regards to safety..

There are many other reasons to boycott companies.. instead of some pansie dispute over textbooks..... what a load of shit.


I don't know enought about labor conditions in China to pass judgement on that, but I think actually knowing who is funding what is important, and boycotts do focus unwanted attention on companies and embarrass them. Corporations that are not sensitive to their comsumers deserve no less. I don't know what the companies were thinking about when the opted to fund those ding-dongs. :roll:
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Postby Big Booger » Fri Apr 01, 2005 4:58 am

dimwit wrote:
I don't know enought about labor conditions in China to pass judgement on that, but I think actually knowing who is funding what is important, and boycotts do focus unwanted attention on companies and embarrass them. Corporations that are not sensitive to their comsumers deserve no less. I don't know what the companies were thinking about when the opted to fund those ding-dongs. :roll:



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Oh I agree boycotts can and do do wonders. They help change policies and practices.

In this case, I think the motivation and reason for the boycott is a bit silly.

This is chinese sticking their nose in Japanese domestic matters... how would china feel if Japan came over and criticised the way Chinese teach history. How they invoke feelings of anger and hatred (whether founded or unfounded) on Japanese today for dealings done years ago?

Should Japan apologise for their atrocities? Most definitely.

Should Chinese get over the past and stop whining like babies. Without a doubt.

What is funny, is that historically speaking, Chinese have not been very kind to their neighbors....... TIBET?

And should Taiwanese boycott all Chinese goods for the recent passage into law of the use of WAR to attack Taiwan should they vote on a move to independence???

China is quick to point a finger, but they forget there are always three looking back. ;)
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Postby devicenull » Fri Apr 01, 2005 7:36 am

Big Booger wrote:
dimwit wrote:
I don't know enought about labor conditions in China to pass judgement on that, but I think actually knowing who is funding what is important, and boycotts do focus unwanted attention on companies and embarrass them. Corporations that are not sensitive to their comsumers deserve no less. I don't know what the companies were thinking about when the opted to fund those ding-dongs. :roll:



CHINESE LABOR CONDITIONS

Oh I agree boycotts can and do do wonders. They help change policies and practices.

In this case, I think the motivation and reason for the boycott is a bit silly.

This is chinese sticking their nose in Japanese domestic matters... how would china feel if Japan came over and criticised the way Chinese teach history. How they invoke feelings of anger and hatred (whether founded or unfounded) on Japanese today for dealings done years ago?

Should Japan apologise for their atrocities? Most definitely.

Should Chinese get over the past and stop whining like babies. Without a doubt.

What is funny, is that historically speaking, Chinese have not been very kind to their neighbors....... TIBET?

And should Taiwanese boycott all Chinese goods for the recent passage into law of the use of WAR to attack Taiwan should they vote on a move to independence???

China is quick to point a finger, but they forget there are always three looking back. ]

Despite the labor conditions, the workers are there by choice because it pays more than farming, if they quit, 20 more people will be there in an hour to try to get the job. Here's something amusing:
Factories owned by Hong Kong Chinese, Taiwan, and South Korean companies tend to have worse conditions


After the shit that Japan pulled in the past (and got away with), and the fact that they still pull shit... they have no right to any "victim" mentality.

Get over it? sure, with time. There are still people alive who survived being used as bayonette practice though. I guess they should just forgive Japan though... I mean it's not like they have any right to bear a grudge. Same goes for Korean slaves and survivors from 731's attrocities. And I am not going to even touch on Nanjing. Most of the young generation that hates Japan is willing to forgive if Japan is willing to actually fess up and admit that what it did was criminal to say the least, oh and stop honoring the criminals as heros.

The only bit I will say on Nanjing is that before coming to Japan, I was in Nanjing for a while, I went to the memorial. At the memorial there is a partially excavated mass grave that one can view. At the entrance there are signs in Chinese, Japanese, and English that clearly request that the site be respected. They ask that you don't smoke, keep silent, and don't take pictures out of respect. That day, there were some Japanese visitors, they smoked, took pictures, and spoke loudly cracking jokes as they went through this. I was pissed, but on coming to Japan, I decided to ignore all that and chalk it up to asshole tourists, nothing more. Then I find that one of my teachers has an interest in China. This teacher has lots of photo albums of his 8 2-week trips to China over the years. He went straight for the Nanjing album as soon as I mentioned that I had been there. Despite all the other things to see in Nanjing, his entire album was nothing but pictures of the memorial, and a good half of it was pictures of the mass grave. He showed these with glee and even had a picture of a guard who asked him to stop taking pictures. I lost my remaining respect for Japanese at about this time.

The only thing Japanese seem sorry about in regards to the war is that they lost. I don't see any reason that Chinese should forgive them yet.
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Postby cstaylor » Fri Apr 01, 2005 11:52 am

devicenull wrote:The only thing Japanese seem sorry about in regards to the war is that they lost. I don't see any reason that Chinese should forgive them yet.
Lost is an understatement. "Had their heads handed to them" is more appropriate.

In the case of Germany, it took losing two world wars before settling down. :idea:
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Postby cstaylor » Fri Apr 01, 2005 11:58 am

Big Booger wrote:This is chinese sticking their nose in Japanese domestic matters...
The Chinese government seems to do that to everyone, not just the Japanese, and then they get all bent out of shape when the U.S. publishes reports about their human rights violations.

Of course, under Bush II the U.S. is on wobbly legs there, with rendition, indefinite detainment, restriction of civil liberties, Abu Gharib, etc...
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Postby Mulboyne » Fri Apr 08, 2005 2:42 pm

Asahi: Anti-Japan protests
Convenience stores in northeastern China removed Japanese products, including beer made by Asahi Breweries, because of a controversy over Japanese textbooks for junior high school students that some say justify Japan's past military aggression. Reports began circulating on the Internet that eight Japanese companies, including Asahi Breweries Ltd., are providing financial support to the Japanese Society for History Textbook Reform (Tsukurukai). According to the brewery, a former employee who left the company years ago is involved with the society. The company itself has nothing to do with it. Asahi Breweries issued a statement in China denying the reports but the situation shows no signs of subsiding.
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Postby Mulboyne » Sat Apr 09, 2005 1:02 pm

Bloomberg: Beijing Store Selling Japan Brands Closed by Protest
Anti-Japan protesters forced one of Beijing's largest electrical goods markets, which sells Japanese brand goods, to delay its usual 9 a.m. opening today. Hailong Electrical Market, a group of retail shops housed in a 14-story building with large advertisements outside for Toshiba laptops, Sony computers and Canon printers, won't open until protesters have left the area, said a security guard at the front door who refused to give his name. About 1,000 protesters, many carrying banners urging a boycott of Japanese goods, were congregated outside the store in Beijing's Haidian district at about 10 a.m.. About 70 Chinese policemen and plain-clothed security guards present made no move to break up the protest.
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Postby devicenull » Sat Apr 09, 2005 4:44 pm

Mulboyne wrote:Bloomberg: Beijing Store Selling Japan Brands Closed by Protest
Anti-Japan protesters forced one of Beijing's largest electrical goods markets, which sells Japanese brand goods, to delay its usual 9 a.m. opening today. Hailong Electrical Market, a group of retail shops housed in a 14-story building with large advertisements outside for Toshiba laptops, Sony computers and Canon printers, won't open until protesters have left the area, said a security guard at the front door who refused to give his name. About 1,000 protesters, many carrying banners urging a boycott of Japanese goods, were congregated outside the store in Beijing's Haidian district at about 10 a.m.. About 70 Chinese policemen and plain-clothed security guards present made no move to break up the protest.



Hahaha, i know that place. They have a decent amount of jap products, most of them are legit and overpriced. Right next to Beida, going to have to see if any friends were in on it 8)
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Postby devicenull » Sat Apr 09, 2005 11:39 pm

even better:
Turns out a few friends of mine took part in it ^^
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