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ethnic MTV for Asian-Americans

Postby gkanai » Tue Jun 21, 2005 7:53 am

The New York Times has a long article on the fact that MTV is launching new channels for Asian-Americans. This is wonderful news and should have been done a decade ago, before MTV lost it's way among the reality shows, game shows and other non-music video nonsense.

Note that even though the Japanese pop music is popular all over Asia and that the Japanese pop music market is the second largest in the world, that the plans do not include a channel targetting Japanese-Americans.

That's because that target market is falling in numbers while the numbers for the others are rising.

That's what MTV World is counting on as it introduces three new channels focusing on the growing population of young, acculturated Asian-Americans: first, MTV Desi, which will go on the air in late July; then MTV Chi, for Chinese-Americans, by the end of the year; and MTV K for Korean-Americans next year. The channels will not be merely tweaked reproductions of MTV India, MTV China or MTV Korea, three of MTV's 42 channels abroad. Rather, they will, like their target audiences, be hybrids, blending here and there and grappling with identity issues, mostly in English.

MTV Desi will serve as the prototype. Interspersed among Bollywood videos, electronic tabla music and English-Gujarati hip-hop, it will feature brief documentary clips profiling desis, comic skits about South Asian-American generational conflicts, interviews with bicultural artists and desi house parties, live. MTV Chi will mix up Mandarin rock, Canto pop and Chinese-American rap; MTV K will tap into South Korean hip-hop and the little-known but vibrant Korean-American pop scene. MTV Desi will start on satellite nationally and then move to digital cable systems in various parts of the country.

MTV World's premise for these new channels was commonsensical: that young bicultural Americans have tastes different from those of youths in their ethnic homelands and therefore need, as it were, a customized MTV.


I Want My Hyphenated-Identity MTV [nytimes.com]
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Postby jim katta » Tue Jun 21, 2005 8:18 am

good post. But MTV is stupid.

This decision to target K and Chi, but not Japan, is clearly based on them doing market research and trying to stick to demographic numbers. Alas, in the case of a successful US asian MTV, the numbers aren't what they should be paying attention to. If these FOOLS took a chance and started a J-Pop MTV in the US, they would be blown away at how quickly it took off. Why? Because half of the viewers would be young white boys and girls! Dummies. It's called crossmarketing to both the base AND cross over demographic.

As it stands, I don't predict many asian pop culture fans tuning in to a Korean or Chinese MTV. Naw. MTV J-pop would have been a HIT. Now MTV will have to depend solely on chinese americans and korean americans tuning in. they'll get 'some' viewers, but most young k & chi americans generally are trying to integrate into the mainstream, which means they want to watch what white kids are watching. the insular young k & chi viewers who prefer 'ethnicity specific' programming are small in number compared to the ones who are trying to mainstream themselves.

Viacom marketing. duh....
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Postby altar » Tue Jun 21, 2005 9:43 am

The Asians in the US are a highly valuable target for advertisers and MTV's trying to cash in on that. If they were just offering alternate content to their existing viewership their advertisers wouldn't be interested I suppose. Plus they'll be able to attract new advertisers too.
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Re: ethnic MTV for Asian-Americans

Postby Samurai_Jerk » Tue Jun 21, 2005 10:25 am

gkanai wrote:Note that even though the Japanese pop music is popular all over Asia and that the Japanese pop music market is the second largest in the world, that the plans do not include a channel targetting Japanese-Americans.


That's probably because Japanese Americans are on the whole a lot more assimilated and far less in touch with their Japanese roots. I'm sure if there are J-pop groups popular with Asian-Americans they'll get some play on the new channels.
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Postby Kuang_Grade » Tue Jun 21, 2005 12:49 pm

I don't see where the money is in this. Advertisers are having a hard enough time figuring out how to talk to Hispanics, who are a much, much larger group (and similarly diverse in their sub groupings and habits) as Asians. While some the larger companies probably do have a few people worrying about how to sell soap in K-Town, I doubt they are sitting around saying "Damn, I would spend $50 mil on TV commercials alone, if I only had an outlet for it". I guess MTV is, at least at the beginning, looking at carrying fees f r o m sat. and cable providers with 'ethnic' programming packages for the main revenue base.

On a possible similar note, MTV recently bought neopets.com, a virtual tamagotchi website....Maybe that's what they want to spend their money of for the J market on....

http://www.reuters.com/newsArticle.jhtml?type=industryNews&storyID=8844424
NEW YORK (Hollywood Reporter) - Viacom Inc.'s MTV Networks said Monday it has acquired NeoPets Inc., the operator of a fast-growing youth community on the Internet.

NeoPets, founded in early 2000, allows members to create and care for virtual pets inhabiting the mythical land of Neopia. More than 25 million members worldwide have created NeoPets accounts in 10 languages, generating more than 5 billion page views per month, according to a statement by the two firms.
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Postby altar » Tue Jun 21, 2005 2:33 pm

A Korean-American singer (Maggie Kim)said she had a chat with some MTV and other music execs a year ago and they were saying that advertisers were really eager to reach out to the wealthy and high consumming Asian-living-in-North-America demographic. The hispanics are a large group but I'm not sure they're such high spenders. Anyway I dunno.
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Postby Andocrates » Tue Jun 21, 2005 5:23 pm

I just don't think there are enough Japanese in America to worry about. A cable network has to cover the whole country, so the other 48 states would be a hard sell. How many Japanese live in Mississippi.

I think only the Chinese MTV has a shot, and it's a long shot. Chinese are the only etinic group who dance worse then white people. LoL
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Gonna fail

Postby Scott » Wed Jun 22, 2005 4:05 pm

This MTV attempt is going to fail. "Asian-Americans" don't seem themselves as "Asians". They see themselves as either:
- American, but with parents from country X, or,
- People from country X, but living in the USA and trying to fit in.

"Asians" in the USA gel together (and are "marketable") kinda like asians in Asia itself do - not really.
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Re: Gonna fail

Postby gkanai » Wed Jun 22, 2005 4:09 pm

Scott wrote:This MTV attempt is going to fail.


I actually agree with you, but the article says that there will be 3 separate channels initially. So they're marketing to niches smaller than "asian."
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