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Postby Mulboyne » Mon May 21, 2007 4:43 pm

[floatl]Image[/floatl]Japan Focus: Pachinko - Declining Popularity or a Continuing Japanese Social Problem?
...The popularity of playing Pachinko is not in doubt. However, while the figure of around 30 million players is still often cited, the most recent data...show that pachinko declined in popularity, going from an estimated 29.9 million players in 1989 to 17.1 million players in 2005...The decline in the number of people playing pachinko should not, however, be confused with a decline in revenue. In fact...revenue has risen from 1.53 trillion yen in 1989, to 2.87 trillion yen in 2005. In short, the number of people playing has decreased by nearly 11 million, but the revenue has nearly doubled...While the number involved has dropped, the volume of play by the remaining individuals has increased. What these figures may indicate, is that the population continuing to play pachinko are more likely to be the hard core of addictive gamblers...All of this points to increasing social problems...Sensational examples highlighted in the Daily Yomiuri include: a person employed by Osaka prefecture who embezzled 2 million yen to play pachislot machines, and a man who murdered a woman to fund a pachinko addiction. Furthermore, there is increasing media focus on children being neglected by parents addicted to pachinko. In the most extreme cases, there have been 15 recorded deaths of children between 2002-2005, most of whom have died of heatstroke and dehydration when they were left in cars while their parent(s) were playing pachinko...more...
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Postby Takechanpoo » Mon May 21, 2007 6:57 pm

Why doesnt this fuckin retarded article refer to Zainichi Kimchi?
This is like discussing about human without head.
80~90% of pachinko Parlors are possessed by Zainichi.
And producing of pachinko machines are monopolized by them.
Above that, very very good location properties in front of station for pachinko parlor are forcibly snatched away by Kimchi dudes in postwar confusion period.
In the postwar confusion period,these illegal immigrant Kimchi dudes suddenly started to do extraordinary high-handed atrocities all over Japan because of police and army absence.
And part of revenue is sent to North General Kimchi.
Fuck off now from land of Chrysanthemum, nasty dudes.
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Postby Greji » Mon May 21, 2007 7:36 pm

Takechanpoo wrote:Why doesnt this fuckin retarded article refer to Zainichi Kimchi?


Good point. Why haven't you Sons of the Chrysanthemum done anything about it if it is that bad? Makes a great wadai, but nothing happens with all talk and no action. Could there be something here that is not being told?
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Postby james » Mon May 21, 2007 7:36 pm

pachinko is just one of those things that i won't miss if it ever disappears. happy to say there is now no pachinko place in my little boondock town out here. about 2 months ago, the owners of the remaining place closed up shop and disappeared.

i just don't get why people like it in the first place. despite the disgustingly thick blue haze of cigarette smoke, the places are so blazingly bright that stepping inside one would burn a holes in my retinas and for what? to sit at a machine and watch bouncing metallic balls..

a real casino at least has come class.
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Postby Behan » Mon May 21, 2007 7:44 pm

Just thought I'd share...

I know a pachinko parlor owner who is Zainichi Chinese (perhaps Taiwanese) but maybe he is a rarity.

He's also an avid katana collector so I wonder if he has a surprise for anyone who might try to rob him. But if they have guns it would be better to part with the cash.
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Postby canman » Mon May 21, 2007 8:17 pm

James within a two km radius of my house there are at least 4 pachinko shops. Recently the last to open is not very far, and since it opened traffic in front of my house has doubled, they rented all the land around the pachinko shop and have turned a few houses into islands surrounded by parking. I don't understand why people play, or why there isn't more of a crackdown on them. Although I read before about the connection between the police and the pachinko owners. I have only gone into one once. My student took me in, I bought 3000Y worth of balls, lost them in about 5 minutes and went home. What a waste of time and money that was!
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Postby CrankyBastard » Mon May 21, 2007 8:28 pm

3000yen!!!!
Used to be you could buy an 'asobidai' for that much and play for a few hours.
10000yen would get you a 'dai' that had paid out the previous day and had'nt had the pins changed, probable chance of winning 50000yen-80000yen depending on your skill.
I used to have a lot of spare time!!!!!!!:)
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Postby Hokuto-shinken » Mon May 21, 2007 8:45 pm

What is the talk about Chrysanthemum people. Do you mean dutch people from the Kanji Chrysanthemum? People from Holland?
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Postby CrankyBastard » Mon May 21, 2007 9:08 pm

Hokuto-shinken wrote:What is the talk about Chrysanthemum people. Do you mean dutch people from the Kanji Chrysanthemum? People from Holland?


The Chrysanthemum Throne is the name given to the Imperial Throne of Japan. It is the oldest continuing monarchy in the world. In Nihonshoki it is said that the Empire of Japan was founded in 660 BC by Emperor Jimmu. According to tradition, Emperor Akihito is the 125th direct descendant of Jimmu. The historical record goes back to Emperor Ohjin who is stated to have reigned in the early 5th century.
And it is also said that Takenchanpoo is a troll and/or sock puppet.
But I think he's just a wanker.:cool:
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Postby Greji » Tue May 22, 2007 10:45 am

CrankyBastard wrote:And it is also said that Takenchanpoo is a troll and/or sock puppet.
But I think he's just a wanker.:cool:


Nah, Ya gotta be able to walk and chew gum at the same time to be a wanker, Crank! Takepoopoo hasn't be able to perfect that yet. He is working on it, though!
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Postby james » Tue May 22, 2007 3:21 pm

canman wrote:James within a two km radius of my house there are at least 4 pachinko shops. Recently the last to open is not very far, and since it opened traffic in front of my house has doubled, they rented all the land around the pachinko shop and have turned a few houses into islands surrounded by parking.


i can't think of an uglier blight to live near. i'm sure you get some really well-to-do types coming through too.
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Postby Takechanpoo » Tue May 22, 2007 7:28 pm

gboothe wrote:Good point. Why haven't you Sons of the Chrysanthemum done anything about it if it is that bad? Makes a great wadai, but nothing happens with all talk and no action. Could there be something here that is not being told?
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Needless to say, many politician accepted donation from pachinko industry.
And pachinko related industry is also sourse of money for YKZ.
(30~40% of YKZ are zainichi korean)
And main broadcasting offices are sponsored by them.
Unfortunately zainichi kimchi have already grasped centre of Chrysanthemum power.
You know more than me, dont you?

CrankyBasterd wrote:And it is also said that Takenchanpoo is a troll and/or sock puppet.
But I think he's just a wanker.

I honestly admit that I am a clown.
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Postby Catoneinutica » Tue May 22, 2007 7:32 pm

Takechanpoo wrote:Why doesnt this fuckin retarded article refer to Zainichi Kimchi?
This is like discussing about human without head.
80~90% of pachinko Parlors are possessed by Zainichi.
And producing of pachinko machines are monopolized by them.
Above that, very very good location properties in front of station for pachinko parlor are forcibly snatched away by Kimchi dudes in postwar confusion period.
In the postwar confusion period,these illegal immigrant Kimchi dudes suddenly started to do extraordinary high-handed atrocities all over Japan because of police and army absence.
And part of revenue is sent to North General Kimchi.
Fuck off now from land of Chrysanthemum, nasty dudes.


Takechanpoo (you piss-taker, you - your manly-J-man avatars are a dead giveaway) references the elephant in the corner that the uber-PC academic-journal article studiously avoids - the preponderance of zainichi Koreans in the pachinko biz. Long-time FGs will doubtless have heard it whispered that the flood of remittances to N. Korea by Chosen Soren-minded Koreans has played no small part in keeping that nasty little regime in power over the years.

Do Japan's recent sanctions against N. Korea even apply to these remittances? I've read nothing to indicate that they do.
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Postby Catoneinutica » Tue May 22, 2007 7:58 pm

PS: My condolences to any FG who has to live near one of those supernovae of noise, light, and cigarette pollution.

Obviously pachinko parlors are regarded as a blight in Japan - certain municipalities that have "upscale" pretentions, such as Karuizawa and Kaihin Makuhari, explicitly forbid them, along with consumer finance outlets.

I'm very curious about the dynamics involved in the establishment of a typical parlor. Certainly some neighborhood-resident groups will oppose it, but the local and national police will doubtless support it (presumably behind a facade of tatemae). This being Japan, one surmises the latter will usually prevail.
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Postby amdg » Tue May 22, 2007 9:19 pm

Takechanpoo wrote:Needless to say, many politician accepted donation from pachinko industry.
And pachinko related industry is also sourse of money for YKZ.
(30~40% of YKZ are zainichi korean)
And main broadcasting offices are sponsored by them.
Unfortunately zainichi kimchi have already grasped centre of Chrysanthemum power.


This is a problem that Japan created for itself many decades ago by creating a group of second class (non-)citizens with limited employment opportunities.

It's not a new tale either. Many countries have been in the same position - some deal with it some don't.


Edit - I forgot to say also that, in the same vein, this is something that troubles me about the recent proposals to relax immigration laws and bring in a new sub-sub class of worker drones to boost the lowest levels of the workforce. Japan isn't ready for a new constituency of people who like what they see around them but are forever denied access to any of it.
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Postby james » Tue May 22, 2007 11:17 pm

amdg wrote:It's not a new tale either. Many countries have been in the same position - some deal with it some don't.


not that i doubt what you are saying, but i'd be curious to hear of similar parallels..
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Postby dimwit » Tue May 22, 2007 11:26 pm

Catoneinutica wrote:PS: My condolences to any FG who has to live near one of those supernovae of noise, light, and cigarette pollution.

Obviously pachinko parlors are regarded as a blight in Japan - certain municipalities that have "upscale" pretentions, such as Karuizawa and Kaihin Makuhari, explicitly forbid them, along with consumer finance outlets.

I'm very curious about the dynamics involved in the establishment of a typical parlor. Certainly some neighborhood-resident groups will oppose it, but the local and national police will doubtless support it (presumably behind a facade of tatemae). This being Japan, one surmises the latter will usually prevail.


Always find a neighborhood devoid of pachiko is a good axiom for anyone considering real estate in Japan. But I find recently even the crudiest ones have been trying to dress up the exteriors and hide zombies within with big and bold Engrish signs. Damn I missed my calling, I should have been a copywriter Pachiko Inc.
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Postby amdg » Tue May 22, 2007 11:35 pm

james wrote:not that i doubt what you are saying, but i'd be curious to hear of similar parallels..


What, ... similar tales from history of countries creating an underclass of citizens who are taught to expect less and who then predictably turn to underground sources of income so that they too can live the good life that they see being lived by their compatriots?

Umm, can't think of any right now.

Edit – don’t mind me, just being my facetious self. If you really want a list you could probably do it yourself. It would save me having to defend every one of my claims.
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Postby Mulboyne » Mon Jun 04, 2007 3:31 pm

There's a short article in Japanese about the decline of the pachinko industry. As well as fewer people playing, the existing customers are getting bored more quickly with the machines which is forcing parlours to shorten the replacement cycle. New regulations on payouts already meant that the industry had to replace two million high payout pachisuro machines by June of this year. The article suggests that the reorganization of the financial sector into fewer, larger groups has also affected the ability of pachinko parlours to get access to credit. This was a factor in the bankruptcy of the Daiei pachinko operations in April.
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Postby TennoChinko » Tue Jun 05, 2007 10:26 am

Takechanpoo wrote:Needless to say, many politician accepted donation from pachinko industry.
And pachinko related industry is also sourse of money for YKZ.
(30~40% of YKZ are zainichi korean)
And main broadcasting offices are sponsored by them.
Unfortunately zainichi kimchi have already grasped centre of Chrysanthemum power.
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That's true - if not higher... but an equal or greater percentage of yakuza belong to the beloved protected Japanese species called burakumin or eta.





For an uber alles Nippon fella,
does burakumin Japanese > FG?
or, FG > burakumin Japanese?

Kinda hard, isn't it?
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Postby Mulboyne » Mon Mar 10, 2008 6:19 pm

Mainichi: Pachinko parlor pinch puts pressure on industry
Pachinko and pachinko slot machines, once known as the kings of entertainment for the general public in Japan, have started to show signs of decline amid tightened regulations on gambling. While the overall number of pachinko addicts may have declined as a result, figures show other unexpected problems have started to emerge. A white paper on leisure complied by the Japan Productivity Center for Socioeconomic Development showed that in 2006, Japan's pachinko-playing population stood at 16.6 million people, a drop of 11 million people compared to 10 years earlier. Profits have also fallen. In 1995, the gross turnover for the pachinko industry reached 31 trillion yen, but in 2006 the figure shrank to 27 trillion yen.

This has hit many pachinko parlors hard, with 144 pachinko parlor operators going bust in 2007, 40 percent more than during the previous year. It was the worst figure for bankruptcies in the past decade. Nobuo Tomoda, head of the information management department at credit research firm Tokyo Shoko Research, suggests pachinko parlors' focus on gambling is behind the bankruptcies. "It's probably because the gambling factor is too high, and pachinko parlors no longer remain places for regular salarymen to enjoy light entertainment," he said. Since the 1980s, pachinko parlors have increasingly brought in machines focused on gambling. "When the payout in each case was bigger, pachinko fanatics who dreamed of a jackpot would feed large amounts of money into the machines, which boosted sales," explains an executive from a pachinko parlor operator.

In the early 2000s, a pachinko slot machine titled "Million God," which was said to offer wins as big as 1 million yen per day, was developed, and customers flocked to parlors that had the machine. However, side effects have emerged alongside the big jackpots. Firstly, novices have become more self-conscious about visiting pachinko stores, thereby reducing the overall population of pachinko players. But the serious problem of pachinko addictions and players with large debts remains. Across Japan, there has been a spate of problems caused by pachinko addictions, including cases in which pachinko-playing parents left their babies in cars in summer while they played pachinko, causing the infants to die from heat exhaustion.

The problems associated with pachinko prompted the National Police Agency to tighten regulations and by September 2007, most of the pachinko machines that focused largely on gambling were cleared out. The Financial Services Agency also introduced restrictions, banning the placement of unmanned loan-dispensing machines near pachinko parlors. Now only machines that are "barely able to make 20,000 to 30,000 yen a day" (according to a major pachinko parlor executive) are permitted. As a result, the pachinko fanatics that parlors had relied on for income have dropped off, and the industry is complaining of worsened business performance as a result.

This financial damage has spread to other areas. Most pachinko machines today have liquid crystal displays and a plethora of other electronic parts. Special businesses assemble the machines, but the electrical parts are produced by prominent electronics manufacturers. Omron Corp. a major manufacturer of precision instruments suffered lower-than-expected sales and business profits in its midterm financial results in September 2007. One of the reasons was reportedly a drop in demand for its sensors to detect pachinko balls. There are a significant number of financial organizations that provide big loans to pachinko parlors, which to date have been seen as cash cows, but some bank executives are starting to show caution with one saying they are now a "new source of bad debts."
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Postby Greji » Mon Mar 10, 2008 9:01 pm

Mulboyne wrote:Mainichi: Pachinko parlor pinch puts pressure on industry".....The problems associated with pachinko prompted the National Police Agency to tighten regulations and by September 2007, most of the pachinko machines that focused largely on gambling were cleared out. ....."


WTF? Marvin, I hope you didn't write this, or at least, believe it!
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