Joint History Review Can't Agree on Nanjing

[Mulboyne]

Yomiuri: Study group split over Nanjing Incident
Though scholars from Japan and China will soon compile their final report on the countries' bilateral history, no progress has been made with regard to perceptions of the Nanjing Incident, it was learned Monday. The Japan-China Joint History Research Committee, co-chaired by Tokyo University Prof. Shinichi Kitaoka, is scheduled to release a general statement of its final report as early as Thursday. Though the scholars had hoped to work out a shared historical view on the Nanjing Incident -- in which hundreds of thousands of civilians were killed after the Imperial Japanese Army captured the city of Nanjing in 1937 -- the committee is expected to present two different statements in the final report because researchers failed to narrow the gap on issues such as how many people were slain, according to sources. Chinese scholars insisted 300,000 were killed -- the number officially supported by Beijing. Meanwhile, the Japanese side said opinions vary over the final death toll, ranging from tens of thousands to 200,000. Regarding the Second Sino-Japanese War, Japanese scholars contended that a number of powerful military officers instigated the Manchurian Incident in September 1931 and then dragged the nation into a series of wars. However, the Chinese side described the war as planned aggression against China by Japan.

The sources said it was decided not to tackle post-1945 history because the Chinese researchers feared such a report could lead to criticism of the current Chinese government. The two sides also were divided over the the international criminal tribunal for the Far East, or Tokyo Tribunal, which was convened in May 1946 and at which 28 Japanese military and political leaders were charged with Class-A crimes -- crimes against peace. The Emperor's visit to China in 1992 also split the two sides. The Chinese side apparently was keen to avoid addressing the Tiananmen Square incident in 1989, a source said. The final report also will include researchers' articles on different historical periods. The first meeting of the joint research committee -- the purpose of which is to deepen objective perceptions of history through research and the promotion of mutual understanding between Japan and China -- was held in December 2006.

[Screwed-down Hairdo]

Yomiuri: Study group split over Nanjing IncidentRegarding the Second Sino-Japanese War, Japanese scholars contended that a number of powerful military officers instigated the Manchurian Incident in September 1931 and then dragged the nation into a series of wars.

Mixing Japanese and Chinese historians to come up with a mutually acceptable joint history is a Monty Pythonesque process bound to come up with results akin to the Brothers Grimm!

[Coligny]

Yomiuri: Study group split over Nanjing Incident
Though scholars from Japan and China will soon compile their final report on the countries' bilateral history, no progress has been made with regard to perceptions of the Nanjing Incident, it was learned Monday.

I know i'm a bit delusionnal... but history is to be aboot facts, not perceptions, feelings or other pathetic subtlelties...

[Mulboyne]

[Yokohammer]

And now Takashi Kawamura, Mayor of Nagoya, has stepped up to piss the Chinese off once again:

Nagoya mayor won't budge on Nanjing remark

Did! ... Didn't! ... Did! ... Didn't! ... etc. etc. ...

[Russell]

And now Takashi Kawamura, Mayor of Nagoya, has stepped up to piss the Chinese off once again:

Nagoya mayor won't budge on Nanjing remark

Did! ... Didn't! ... Did! ... Didn't! ... etc. etc. ...

My bet is that this mayor won't qualify for the foreign ministry's diplomat corps.

[Coligny]

My bet is that this mayor won't qualify for the foreign ministry's diplomat corps.

Au contraire..

TIJ afterall

[Russell]

[Yokohammer]

Related to the same silliness:

Zoo site hacked amid Nanjing fracas

[Ganma]

None of these retards were there, so why don't they shut the fuck up about stuff they have no idea about? ...Oh right, they're politicians. It's their prerogative.

[Russell]

One thing.

If Nagoya's mayor believes only "conventional acts of combat" took place in Nanjing, and not mass murder and rape of civilians, then why are other cities in China where conventional acts of combat took place less in the limelight?

Nanjing must have differed in something with those other cities, methinks.

[Coligny]

None of these retards were there, so why don't they shut the fuck up about stuff they have no idea about?

History don't exactly works that way...

[cstaylor]

None of these retards were there, so why don't they shut the fuck up about stuff they have no idea about? ...Oh right, they're politicians. It's their prerogative.

It's Magic for Dummies 101... confuse the audience by showing them your right(ist) hand while the left one is stealing from Tokyo taxpayers through:
- Shin Ginko Tokyo embezzlement
- Tokyo Olympic bid embezzlement
- Construction embezzlement

He's rewarding his selectorate using the cheapest method available: jingoism. Has anyone else read this?

[Yokohammer]