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Coligny wrote:Any word on nukaplant operator health, safety and common sense boot camp ?
chokonen888 wrote:I thought they gave up on sea walls? The fuck?
Yokohammer wrote:Nope. I was just down there the other day, and the brand newchokonen888 wrote:I thought they gave up on sea walls? The fuck?eyesorewall looms large.
I'll take some pics when I get a chance to wander down there again.
Taro Toporific wrote:Yokohammer wrote:Nope. I was just down there the other day, and the brand newchokonen888 wrote:I thought they gave up on sea walls? The fuck?eyesorewall looms large.
I'll take some pics when I get a chance to wander down there again.
Wacko seawalls and tetrapods cause all the sand on beaches to erode away over time and destroying the coast habitat by creating a concrete dead zone.
The Japanese fishing industry is so stupid they don’t realize that by destroying the coastal habitat they are further reducing the number of fish in their already ridiculously over-fished waters, arrrg.
Taro Toporific wrote:
The Great Wall of Japan
---Tsunami protection--or a boondoggle for builders?---
The The Economist | 2014 June 14
...Three years ago, an earthquake under the Pacific Ocean triggered towering waves that carried away over 18,000 people and caused a meltdown at the Fukushima Dai-ichi power station...
...Japan’s government wasted little time announcing a favourite solution: pouring concrete. A few months after the disaster it pledged to build hundreds of seawalls and breakers in the three worst-hit prefectures of Fukushima, Miyagi and Iwate. The total cost will be up to ¥1 trillion ($9.8 billion). More walls are planned. A report by the ministries of agriculture and land said 14,000km of Japan’s 35,000km coastline requires tsunami protection.
Seawalls are controversial. They look hideous and the evidence for their effectiveness is flimsy...in the city of Kamaishi a $1.6 billion breakwater, listed in the “Guinness Book of Records” as the world’s largest, crumbled on impact. Nearly 90% of existing seawalls along the northeast coast suffered a similar fate. Critics say they even resulted in greater damage being caused elsewhere. “There is simply no guarantee that seawalls will stop every single tsunami,” says Nobuo Shuto, an engineer at Tohoku University.
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El Grauniad wrote:Tsunami-proof 'Great Wall of Japan' divides villagers
Government wants to build 440 walls along coastline, but some residents believe a concrete fortress is not the answer
When Masahito Abe looks out at the sea that killed 40 of his neighbours just over three years ago, he is certain of one thing: at some point, perhaps long after he is gone, the ocean will again unleash a terrifying wave on his village.
Like dozens of other communities along the north-east coast of Japan struck by the March 2011 earthquake and tsunami, Koizumi is now a wasteland. Grass and weeds grow where homes once stood. On the beach, a man digs for shellfish near the remains of a solitary gutted building.
No one will return to live in the low-lying neighbourhood of Koizumi in Miyagi prefecture, home to 60% of the 19,000 people who died in the disaster. But if the government gets its way, this abandoned strip of land will be made tsunami-proof as part of a £5bn plan to defend 230 miles of coastline with hundreds of towering concrete walls.
The scale of the project, referred to by detractors as the Great Wall of Japan, is staggering even by the standards of a country where much of the coastline is already protected against storms and erosion by concrete walls.
Under government plans, hatched months after the disaster, 440 walls are to be built in the worst-hit prefectures of Fukushima, Miyagi and Iwate. But while Japan's construction industry relishes the prospect of a huge payday courtesy of its allies in the governing Liberal Democratic party, opposition among residents is gathering momentum.
...concrete boondoggle continues...
yanpa wrote:El Grauniad wrote:the low-lying neighbourhood of Koizumi in Miyagi prefecture, home to 60% of the 19,000 people who died in the disaster.
Coligny wrote:Ships hitting head on might survive, submarines would not even notice, anything anchored to the ground and in it path... Pretty much fucked... If not by the oncoming wave, the retreating water loaded with everything from trains to full houses will do...
Tower with their reverse pedulum properties might not fare well... Going that way, a huge concrete bunker with a corner facing the ocean shaped like a reverse boat prow... And no windows...
Even better... Concrete pyramids... This stuff can last forever and you can hide stargates under...
chokonen888 wrote:For faaar less than that money, they could be building Tsunami towers or something of the like, to evacuate to in the case of tsunami.
yanpa wrote:chokonen888 wrote:For faaar less than that money, they could be building Tsunami towers or something of the like, to evacuate to in the case of tsunami.
Like these?
chokonen888 wrote:yanpa wrote:chokonen888 wrote:For faaar less than that money, they could be building Tsunami towers or something of the like, to evacuate to in the case of tsunami.
Like these?
Yes, but with actual shelter on top (nothing like braving the tsunami atop a steel scaffold, exposed to the elements) that could store supplies and shit. Speaking of which, such buildings require some serious anti-rust maintenance. My j-cousin is some kind of welding pro and was telling me last week that he got sent up some sort of tower like that recently....rungs on the maintenance ladder, along with many of the support braces, literally crumbled to rust upon being touched....when he was near the top. He carefully scrambled down and told them to get fucked.
Koizumi resident Abe, meanwhile, says the indiscriminate construction of sea walls will only strengthen Japan’s international image as a “concrete fortress.”
“The tsunami was a force of nature, so I can forgive it for the destruction and misery it caused,” he says. “But for humans to ruin their own environment.… I can never forgive that.”
Yokohammer wrote:our brand new seawall
Greji wrote:Yokohammer wrote:our brand new seawall
I think it is very wise of them to build such a long and strong three foot tall sea wall! It will certainly do wonders in stopping those 20-30 foot tsunami waves. Everyone can finally get some good sleep with the government planning in action! Since one of these major splashes occur every twenty to thirty years, it's good to see the government in quick decisive action!
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