As if gaijin men didn't have a bad enough reputation...

[Russell]

So, he doesn't have to explain how he came to believe she was dead and what happened right before that?

[Coligny]

Sometime corpses appears out of the blue...

[matsuki]

Maybe the claim is he thought it was a suicide...and decided to get rid of the body, rather than risk an investigation that would send detectives to his home, where his wife and kids were, asking questions about his dead "fiance."

[BigInJapan]

Maybe the claim is he thought it was a suicide...and decided to get rid of the body, rather than risk an investigation that would send detectives to his home, where his wife and kids were, asking questions about his dead "fiance."

I don't have much experience with the Japanese legal system, but my guess is that Gumo's legal team could be attempting to get a lighter sentence.
The death penalty almost never gets meted out for a single murder in Japan*, but how long he serves should depend on the severity of the charges they make stick.
*Checking out the statistics for the death penalty by country, best Korea is a complete nightmare (e.g. inappropriate words - WTF?).
From Wiki:
Firing squad, Hanging or Decapitation. North Korea performs public executions. Current laws allow the death penalty for prostitution "drug transactions"; plots against national sovereignty; terrorism; treason against the Motherland by citizens; treason against the people; murder, attempted murder, arson, kidnapping, rape, insubordination, burglary, illegal entry, assault, hostile acts, smuggling drugs, inappropriate words, armed robbery, grand theft, making illegal international calls without a phone card, illegal pornography, showing disrespect to Kim Il-Sung, Kim Jong-il, Kim Jong-Un or even Kim Family, unauthorized religious activity, produce anti propaganda, joining Islamic State of Iraq and the Levant or Al-Qaeda in Syria or Iraq.

[Russell]

*Checking out the statistics for the death penalty by country, best Korea is a complete nightmare (e.g. inappropriate words - WTF?).
From Wiki:
Firing squad, Hanging or Decapitation. North Korea performs public executions. Current laws allow the death penalty for prostitution "drug transactions"; plots against national sovereignty; terrorism; treason against the Motherland by citizens; treason against the people; murder, attempted murder, arson, kidnapping, rape, insubordination, burglary, illegal entry, assault, hostile acts, smuggling drugs, inappropriate words, armed robbery, grand theft, making illegal international calls without a phone card, illegal pornography, showing disrespect to Kim Il-Sung, Kim Jong-il, Kim Jong-Un or even Kim Family, unauthorized religious activity, produce anti propaganda, joining Islamic State of Iraq and the Levant or Al-Qaeda in Syria or Iraq.

Fortunately, I would get away with torture there.

[kurogane]

Sometime corpses appears out of the blue...

Or in it!

So, he doesn't have to explain how he came to believe she was dead and what happened right before that?

My knowledge of the legal system is not comprehensive but I highly doubt any suspect has a legal duty to explain anything. It's for the prosecutors to prove beyond a reasonable doubt that he committed the crime as charged and the judge to determine the punishment. It's disappointing to hear he is getting away with.........well, murder. He bought the tarps and the rope and the weights because he had a sneaky feeling she might commit suicide on their next date and was just being a good Boy Scout? This is a shocking failure of the crown to not pursue a case even if it might take a hit on its AAA conviction rate. I wonder if he would have got off so lightly if he were Japanese, or she weren't a 40 year old loozer NEETer? Thank god for him even scumbag whites are still white.

I wonder if we could start a Crowdfund thing to supply him with his sentence's worth of anal lube?

[legion]

Japanese prosecution relies on admission of guilt
This guy won't admit
Only he knows what happened and he isn't telling

I feel sorry for his kids

[kurogane]

I feel sorry for his kids

Yeah, and his dopey looking wife, FTM. She was probably resigned knowing she had married a cad and a bounder, but an incompetent body dumper??? Judging by his incompetence he isn't actually intelligent, but he's clever enough or clever enough to hire a proper lawyer. I wonder if FGs know better than the Indigenes to just STFU and tough it out, or if it is a mental toughness thing. I know 3 or 4 FGs that got off scot free just by clamming it and they were as guilty as Nixon. It's weird how loose lipped the locals get when they feel guilty. Almost papist in flavour.

OTOH, shame on the crown for not pursuing this even without a confession. That is deplorable.

[matsuki]

Japanese prosecution relies on admission of guilt
This guy won't admit
Only he knows what happened and he isn't telling

While I agree with this and what Kuro is saying, the police must have really fucked something up during the investigation...didn't they claim they had video of them driving together after he bought the goods but before he dumped her?

[Russell]

Japanese prosecution relies on admission of guilt
This guy won't admit
Only he knows what happened and he isn't telling

While I agree with this and what Kuro is saying, the police must have really fucked something up during the investigation...didn't they claim they had video of them driving together after he bought the goods but before he dumped her?

Maybe they set the date incorrectly on the video camera...

[legion]

Japanese prosecution relies on admission of guilt
This guy won't admit
Only he knows what happened and he isn't telling

While I agree with this and what Kuro is saying, the police must have really fucked something up during the investigation...didn't they claim they had video of them driving together after he bought the goods but before he dumped her?

all dem forenurz looks the same

[kurogane]

While I agree with this and what Kuro is saying, the police must have really fucked something up during the investigation...didn't they claim they had video of them driving together after he bought the goods but before he dumped her?

They have a video of something showing them together down at the beach area around or about when it all went downhill, and either video or eyewitness evidence of him buying the DIY bodybag kit at a home centre the night before or that day. This is craven behaviour by the crown.
BTW, I wonder how well that You Think We All Look the Same Defence would fly in a Japanese court? Given how few will admit to racism even right after they've said something racist I would bet a Japanese judge would dismiss that summarily.

[Samurai_Jerk]

While I agree with this and what Kuro is saying, the police must have really fucked something up during the investigation...didn't they claim they had video of them driving together after he bought the goods but before he dumped her?

They have a video of something showing them together down at the beach area around or about when it all went downhill, and either video or eyewitness evidence of him buying the DIY bodybag kit at a home centre the night before or that day. This is craven behaviour by the crown.
BTW, I wonder how well that You Think We All Look the Same Defence would fly in a Japanese court? Given how few will admit to racism even right after they've said something racist I would bet a Japanese judge would dismiss that summarily.

There is some truth to it though.

[matsuki]

humans tend to perceive people of other races than themselves to all look alike. All else being equal, individuals of a given race are distinguishable from each other in proportion to their familiarity or contact with the race as a whole. Thus, to the uninitiated Caucasian, all East Asian people look alike, while to East Asian people, all Caucasian people look alike. This does not hold true when people of different races familiarize themselves with races different from their own.

Definitely truth to it....and while I don't find it the least bit offensive, it's a good indicator of how small the bubble that person is living in.

[kurogane]

Oh, ferschur. I was a guinea pig for the Cognitive Studies boys in grad school; quite interesting stuff, and that effect is obviously quite prevalent; I get it with American Basketball players, but that is also mostly hair and clothing styles and the Fifth World English. But I suggest most Japanese would never admit that as true unless they were the ones using it to their own ends, judges included. Knowledge only becomes legitimate when you have an iron in the fire and it aids your argument. Plus, it's an East Asian face thang. Or mostly an EA face thing. I never got into deep enough trouble for it to matter much

[Samurai_Jerk]

humans tend to perceive people of other races than themselves to all look alike. All else being equal, individuals of a given race are distinguishable from each other in proportion to their familiarity or contact with the race as a whole. Thus, to the uninitiated Caucasian, all East Asian people look alike, while to East Asian people, all Caucasian people look alike. This does not hold true when people of different races familiarize themselves with races different from their own.

Definitely truth to it....and while I don't find it the least bit offensive, it's a good indicator of how small the bubble that person is living in.

It really depends on where you live. If you're a white boy from the Bay Area and think all Asians look a like, you're definitely in a bubble. If you're from Finland, maybe not.

[matsuki]

humans tend to perceive people of other races than themselves to all look alike. All else being equal, individuals of a given race are distinguishable from each other in proportion to their familiarity or contact with the race as a whole. Thus, to the uninitiated Caucasian, all East Asian people look alike, while to East Asian people, all Caucasian people look alike. This does not hold true when people of different races familiarize themselves with races different from their own.

Definitely truth to it....and while I don't find it the least bit offensive, it's a good indicator of how small the bubble that person is living in.

It really depends on where you live. If you're a white boy from the Bay Area and think all Asians look a like, you're definitely in a bubble. If you're from Finland, maybe not.

Finland or Japan...still means you probably have no meaningful relationships with anyone outside your race.

[Taro Toporific]

American man gets 18-month prison term over drowning death of mistress
The Japan Times | May 25, 2016
YOKOHAMA – The Yokohama District Court on Wednesday sentenced an American man to 18 months in prison for throwing his mistress into the sea off Miura, Kanagawa Prefecture, last July, believing she was already dead.
Prosecutors had demanded a 30-month prison term for Gregory Gumo, 41, on the charge of disposing of the body of 42-year-old Mariko Akitaya. Police arrested him on suspicion of murder but prosecutors decided last month not to indict him on the charge...
...According to the ruling, Gumo threw Akitaya into the sea around July 28, 2015, believing she was dead, even though chemical substances in her system may have left her unconscious. The ruling determined she that she drowned.
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[Wage Slave]

Havill will be disappointed. Perhaps rightly so - What chemicals were these and how did they get into her body? A self administered drug overdose?

[matsuki]

Gumo’s defense claimed the defendant was not guilty of the charge as the victim was alive at the moment she was dumped in the sea.

The court concluded, however, that Gumo assumed he was disposing of her body and she is believed to have died as she sank.

manslaughter anyone?

[legion]

Gumo’s defense claimed the defendant was not guilty of the charge as the victim was alive at the moment she was dumped in the sea.

The court concluded, however, that Gumo assumed he was disposing of her body and she is believed to have died as she sank.

manslaughter anyone?

unbelievable

They have excelled themselves in idiocy.

This is like pushing someone off a cliff and claiming it was the ground that killed them.

[Samurai_Jerk]

Look on the bright side. This shows a foreign guy can now get away with murdering a Japanese gal just as easily as Japanese guys have when they killed foreign girls. That's what I call progress.

[yanpa]

So the lesson from this is that if you buy your rope, weights and other marine-orientated body-disposal paraphernalia in a better-planned, more anonymous manner, and don't try and skip the country too hurriedly, there's a good chance it could all be written off as an unfortunate accident.

[Coligny]

American man gets 18-month prison term over drowning death of mistress
The Japan Times | May 25, 2016
YOKOHAMA – The Yokohama District Court on Wednesday sentenced an American man to 18 months in prison for throwing his mistress into the sea off Miura, Kanagawa Prefecture, last July, believing she was already dead.
Prosecutors had demanded a 30-month prison term for Gregory Gumo, 41, on the charge of disposing of the body of 42-year-old Mariko Akitaya. Police arrested him on suspicion of murder but prosecutors decided last month not to indict him on the charge...
...According to the ruling, Gumo threw Akitaya into the sea around July 28, 2015, believing she was dead, even though chemical substances in her system may have left her unconscious. The ruling determined she that she drowned.
More...

Holy shit... the life of a jap whore have less value than a French dog. Mistreatment to an animal leading to death give you 24 month of jailtime and a 30 000 euros fine.

Starting to like this place...

[matsuki]

Look on the bright side. This shows a foreign guy can now get away with murdering a Japanese gal just as easily as Japanese guys have when they killed foreign girls. That's what I call progress.

....or simply this particular FG was able to play the system? I'm pretty sure the detectives and prosecutor weren't too happy with how it played out. I'm actually surprised he wasn't acquitted...his attorney makes a good point. It's not abandoning a body if she was still alive. I wonder if he'll push his luck with an appeal? (or better yet, the prosecutor decides to appeal...not too uncommon in this case by case system.)

[Samurai_Jerk]

his attorney makes a good point. It's not abandoning a body if she was still alive.

But if you use the logic that it wasn't murder even though he killed her by drowning because he thought she was already dead, it makes sense for the abandoning a body charge to stick. It seems that all they care about is what he thought, not what was true. I still feel like we're missing something though. Does everyone agree that he drugged her or not? I haven't seen an article yet that states he admitted to it or the court decided that's the case. Of course I haven't done much digging either.

[matsuki]

My guess is he drugged her and is guilty of murder but with no hard evidence to prove he drugged her, the best they could hope for would be manslaughter. Why they went ahead with the body abandonment case I don't know but if intent is the deciding factor. law would be a lot different.

[Samurai_Jerk]

That's everyone's guess. What I'm wondering is if that was assumed to be true by the court or if the inability to prove he's the one that poisoned her was the reason they didn't charge him with murder.

[matsuki]

What I want to know is his explanation for how he knew she OD'd (didn't stop her or call for an ambulance) and why he thought her going missing/presumed dead (dumping the body) would be any different than letting the cops find her suicided in her own apt or wherever. My guess is he kept his mouth shut.

[Taro Toporific]

Aichi cops arrest Tokyo man traveling around Japan to ‘hit on women’
--Suspect tried to run but was overpowered and pinned down--
May 26, 2016 | AICHI (TR) – A man was arrested for trespassing in a Nagoya university building for the sole suspected purpose of hitting on women, police said.
An unemployed 23-year-old man was arrested on suspicion of trespassing in a building of a campus of Nagoya University on Tuesday to try and proposition women...Police said the suspect entered the first floor of a building on the Higashiyama Campus of Nagoya University at around 9:20 a.m. on Wednesday and was cat-calling numerous women...
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