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Coligny wrote:Put toto/inax stickers on the hood and doors. Drive with a matching toto/inax cap.
Get arrested for impersonashiun of shitter repair crew...
Yokohammer wrote:...I hardly ever drive in Tokyo, so I haven't seen this. Any other FG brethren had similar {driving-while-gaijin} experiences?
Yokohammer wrote:I'm wondering if Matsuki's mildly "swarthy" appearance is part of the problem, and if a blond, blue-eyed Ayrian type (yes, I know, don't bother) would get the same treatment.
matsuki wrote:Taro - During the day? Night?
Taro Toporific wrote: The Force can have a strong influence on the weak minded. )
kurogane wrote:I am a huge fan of the judicious and even gratuitous use of The Force, but is that actually true about ID? This is a rehash, but most every time I hear a conclusive argument that it be so I usually get a huge whiff of blowhard barber shoppe lawyer/SJW prig, or a full perma-Newbie/FOB stench (a la Debuto). I always show it because it's just easier...Taro Toporific wrote: The Force can have a strong influence on the weak minded. )
kurogane wrote:Yes, I see The Force within you is strong. I like the wave off programme, I just can't quite get the point of being all DebiDebi about something so trivial.
Samurai_Jerk wrote:kurogane wrote:Yes, I see The Force within you is strong. I like the wave off programme, I just can't quite get the point of being all DebiDebi about something so trivial.
Yes searching people without probable cause because they look different is so trivial.
Taro Toporific wrote:Yokohammer wrote:...I hardly ever drive in Tokyo, so I haven't seen this. Any other FG brethren had similar {driving-while-gaijin} experiences?
Last spring I was pulled over for driving-while-gaijin at a dangerous railroad crossing in Ota-ku Tokyo for no reason and given the anal probe for 45 minutes without being issued a ticket, warning, or any reason. Very strange.
Previously, I haven't been pulled over for driving-while-gaijin for 25 years. My previous driving-while-gaijin police stop was sort of "reasonable" since I was driving Nissan President with an overload trunk (full of surplus servers and routers) with my very Muslim looking buddy near the Imperial Palace during a state visit of some Israel official.Yokohammer wrote:I'm wondering if Matsuki's mildly "swarthy" appearance is part of the problem, and if a blond, blue-eyed Ayrian type (yes, I know, don't bother) would get the same treatment.
I'm about as blond-eyed, blue-haired Ayrian as a person can get (with plenty of dead WWII Nazi relatives).
Russell wrote:I can come up with two reasons why they targeted you.
1. Your car's looks somehow are associated with criminal activity. I suspect they looked for drugs.
2. Your license plate is registered in a secret database of them, due to your previous refusal to cooperate.
And no, it's not your dental characteristics that made you stand out. It would be too dark for that anyway.
Yokohammer wrote:The "no reason" thing is a bit troubling. Aren't the police required to give a reason if one is demanded?
matsuki wrote:Russell wrote:I can come up with two reasons why they targeted you.
1. Your car's looks somehow are associated with criminal activity. I suspect they looked for drugs.
2. Your license plate is registered in a secret database of them, due to your previous refusal to cooperate.
And no, it's not your dental characteristics that made you stand out. It would be too dark for that anyway.
1.) It's a minivan, no blacked out windows or windowless rear. Doubt it's the specific vehicle but yes, looking for both drugs and weapons.
2.) Possible but before we get all tinfoil cap, is that "secret list" actually a thing?
Taro Toporific wrote:matsuki wrote:Russell wrote:I can come up with two reasons why they targeted you.
1. Your car's looks somehow are associated with criminal activity. I suspect they looked for drugs.
2. Your license plate is registered in a secret database of them, due to your previous refusal to cooperate.
And no, it's not your dental characteristics that made you stand out. It would be too dark for that anyway.
1.) It's a minivan, no blacked out windows or windowless rear. Doubt it's the specific vehicle but yes, looking for both drugs and weapons.
2.) Possible but before we get all tinfoil cap, is that "secret list" actually a thing?
You are are their shit-list.
I would be damn sure I had several video drive recorders operating on my vehicle at all times. I would make sure one video recorder was recording what is happening outside the driver's door window. Ideally, at least one of the video recorders is hidden because I bet the Japanese cops would want to impound and suppress any video taken of them.
Yokohammer wrote: The "no reason" thing is a bit troubling. Aren't the police required to give a reason if one is demanded?
kurogane wrote:Yokohammer wrote: The "no reason" thing is a bit troubling. Aren't the police required to give a reason if one is demanded?
Fully agreed, but they could probably get away with "We're doing our job", and the general public would buy that, I thinks. Interesting to watch a Japanese do that, but they do have constitutional protection.
Yokohammer wrote:If they would just do their fucking job without all the bullshit it would be much easier to cooperate. But sometimes they just want to exercise their authority, or fill a quota, and that's when the bullshit starts and their "victims" pledge to never, ever cooperate with cops in any circumstances. Cutting off their noses to spite their faces, as it were. Priorities all fucked up.
Taro Toporific wrote:I would be damn sure I had several video drive recorders operating on my vehicle at all times. I would make sure one video recorder was recording what is happening outside the driver's door window. Ideally, at least one of the video recorders is hidden because I bet the Japanese cops would want to impound and suppress any video taken of them.
matsuki wrote:I see cops on foot/chari hiding in the alleys and shit on my daily commute through rural Tokyo (which is creepy enough since it's obviously not about prevention as much as trying to be sneaky and catch you with your cell phone or making a lane change over a yellow line or something) but yesterday it got even weirder with a cop, on foot, in one of the expressway tunnels as I was heading to Odaiba. Literally no place to pull you over and...I can't even begin to understand what the idea was but there he was, standing in prime "run me over fam!" territory at an interchange with a lit up red batton and jeering at oncoming traffic.
wuchan wrote:matsuki wrote:I see cops on foot/chari hiding in the alleys and shit on my daily commute through rural Tokyo (which is creepy enough since it's obviously not about prevention as much as trying to be sneaky and catch you with your cell phone or making a lane change over a yellow line or something) but yesterday it got even weirder with a cop, on foot, in one of the expressway tunnels as I was heading to Odaiba. Literally no place to pull you over and...I can't even begin to understand what the idea was but there he was, standing in prime "run me over fam!" territory at an interchange with a lit up red batton and jeering at oncoming traffic.
they do that. Usually there are two things they are doing.
First is seatbelt checks. They have a guy hang out in a random spot looking for people in the back seat without seat belts and radio ahead to the UC Toyota crown which pulls the offender over. I don't have a problem with this because I see too many kids bouncing around in the back of vans which is extremely dangerous.
wuchan wrote:The second is a speed trap. The guy on foot has a radar box hidden near by and then radios ahead to the UC crown. This one I have a problem with because they only tend to pull over cars that are cheaper or look old. I have seen trains of AMG mercs, BMWs, and more expensive domestics get a free pass so the cop could pull over the one nissan note in the bunch. The police have directly told me "only poor people commit crimes". It's a strange theory but I think it's more like poor people don't have the money to fight back in court.
matsuki wrote:trying to be sneaky and catch you with your cell phone or making a lane change over a yellow line or something
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