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Buraku wrote:Damien Hirst is shit anyway, I wouldn't call what he does art. The guy can't even paint or sculpt
Buraku wrote:its fools gold, the crap is only worth something if you believe in it.
Charles wrote:Hirst has contributed significantly to the world of art, he changed the rules forever.
Charles wrote:Yep, the guy doesn't paint
Or sculpt.
Art is about illusion. Hirst takes the mundane and makes them into objects worth millions of dollars. If you knew how to do this, you'd do it yourself. But you don't, so you can only whine jealously. The world is full of philistines like you, but artists of Hirst's caliber are rare and prized. Hirst has contributed significantly to the world of art, he changed the rules forever. What have YOU done lately?
prolly wrote:I'm no Charlie Finch, but even I had to roll me eys at that one. Given that the 90s were a rather slim decade, while I can't argue that he's made a "contribution" it's a difference of degree. Hubris is hardly new, and it's too bad you're all to eager to drink the ArtWorld Kool-aid.
Charles wrote:I will accept your criticism if you are able to do either of the following:
1. Create a work of art that has equal impact in the art world, and sells for equal prices.
2. Have sufficient money to purchase a Hirst artwork.
Until then, you're just an armchair critic. As an artist, until I can do either of those things, I can only follow in Hirst's wake.
ttjereth wrote:I fail to see how the skull is sculpture, since it's just a cast of an actual skull?
On top of that, I think your opinion of Hirst and his work is highly overrated as do many others. Ranting and raving about philistines doesn't make your opinion on the man or his work any more valid than anyone else's, and if dead animals preserved and/or cut in half are works of art there are a ton of artists of rare and prized caliber out in the world working in taxidermist shops.
ttjereth wrote:So you are no allowed to do so until you are able to recreate a work of similar popularity or achieve a similar level of wealth as the person you are criticizing?
Charles wrote:Having spent some of my years in Art School doing drawing exercises in the Medical School's dissection lab, producing drawings from freshly dissected cadavers, and in particular focusing on cranial anatomy, I can perhaps be excused for seeing the real teeth and assuming the rest of the skull is real. But at least my observations were made from personal experience, rather than dubious sources like wikipedia.
But I will consider myself chastened. Your Google-fu has outwitted my BFA degree and decades of professional experience in the arts. I will have to call all the world-class artists I know who have sought my professional services and inform them that some anonymous guy on the internet named ttjereth will now be handling their requests. And I will have to refund the huge amounts of money I made writing art criticism.
ttjereth wrote:You do that, and while you're at it you should see if one of them can help you with removing that tremedous stick you have stuck up your ass.
Charles wrote:I will accept your criticism if you are able to do either of the following:
1. Create a work of art that has equal impact in the art world, and sells for equal prices.
2. Have sufficient money to purchase a Hirst artwork.
Until then, you're just an armchair critic. As an artist, until I can do either of those things, I can only follow in Hirst's wake.
ttjereth wrote:So much for knowing "man's works and his theories" eh? My 10 second google search beats your bookshelves. Welcome to 21st century.
.The government plans to introduce a state compensation system to partly reimburse costs incurred when foreign works of art borrowed by Japanese art galleries are damaged or stolen, the education and finance ministers said Wednesday. Education, Science and Technology Minister Ryu Shionoya and Finance Minister Shoichi Nakagawa spoke at a meeting of the House of Councillors Budget Committee of the government's aim to support the holding of high quality exhibitions in the country. "The state compensation system will reduce insurance premiums [for artworks] enabling gallery curators to reduce admission fees," Shionoya said. "Because we believe it'll raise international confidence in Japanese exhibitions, we plan to study how other countries handle this issue," he added
Charles wrote:
Yes, my opinions are more informed than yours, at the minimum...Your opinion is ill-informed, akin to declaring that Lee Iacocca or Daryl Shelby had no influence on modern automobiles.
Charles wrote:Do you need eyeglasses? It's a real skull, laboriously encrusted with millions of dollars of diamonds and precious metal applique.
Yes, my opinions are more informed than yours, at the minimum. I know the man's works and his theories, as well as those of all the other artists he is influenced by and is influencing. You do not, you have to google for contrary opinions, while my bookshelves are full of them. Your opinion is ill-informed, akin to declaring that Lee Iacocca or Daryl Shelby had no influence on modern automobiles. Your whine that a taxidermist could do it, oh that's the oldest, most pathetic criticism of all. I hear it all the time, it's the old wheeze, "my 6 year old kid could do that!" OK, so why aren't your 6 year old kid's works in the museum and selling for millions? Is there a possibility that the artist knows something your little kid doesn't? Something that took a lifetime to develop?
Typhoon wrote:Rationalize all you like, that stuff is still fatuous crap.
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