ALT positions subsidized???

[japanguy]

Does the national govt. subsidize the local education boards to help pay for ALT's? I have heard that the govt. subsidizes each BofE. And that it is around 500-600 man yen for each teacher. Is this true?

Thanks,
Japanguy

[Samurai_Jerk]

I know they do for JET Program ALTs but I don't know how much they give for each person.

[jingai]

Yes, think of it as a massive public works project like a dam or new highway. The national gov't has all the tax revenue and then doles it out to local towns. The number of ALTs in a town reflects upon its political influence- why do you think they are all in rice-country and not Tokyo?

[Ketou]

Yes, think of it as a massive public works project like a dam or new highway. The national gov't has all the tax revenue and then doles it out to local towns. The number of ALTs in a town reflects upon its political influence- why do you think they are all in rice-country and not Tokyo?

Because Ishihara does not want an increase of the gaijin infestation in Tokyo.

[AssKissinger]

I've often wondered if eikaiwas get some kind of govt kickback or tax break or something.

[Mike Oxlong]

This is how the 'dispatch companies' make money. They get a contract from a local BofE for anywhere from 6-8 million yen/year, and pay the ALT they contract into the position about 3 million/year.

[AssKissinger]

This is how the 'dispatch companies' make money. They get a contract from a local BofE for anywhere from 6-8 million yen/year, and pay the ALT they contract into the position about 3 million/year.

Are you sure about those figures? Does Interac really pay their employees 23 man a month and collect that kind of cake from it? If you're not sure admit it. If you have some kind of link to evidence I would be amazed. Because even when working direct with a BOE it's hard to get past 4 million as an individual. I'm not calling BULLSHIT I can believe it, but 8 million... No disrespect

[james]

I've often wondered if eikaiwas get some kind of govt kickback or tax break or something.

not *this* eikaiwa. in fact, my taxes, like yours, go to paying for this boondoggle of a program. nothing against the jets, many i've met are nice people, but the program is a huge waste.

[AssKissinger]

I've often wondered if eikaiwas get some kind of govt kickback or tax break or something.

not *this* eikaiwa. in fact, my taxes, like yours, go to paying for this boondoggle of a program. nothing against the jets, many i've met are nice people, but the program is a huge waste.

Yeah, I'm sure that you little gaijin mom and pop deals don't get a break ever. But I bet the big boys who own other companies as well get tax write offs for contributing to the internationalization or the education of Japan. Don't know for sure though.

[james]

Yeah, I'm sure that you little gaijin mom and pop

lol. 25 yen off a litre of milk, through sunday this week! scratch 'n win tickets are at the counter.

sorry.. just hadn't heard that expression in awhile so my mind conjured up a little convenience store.

i'm sure nova and aeon get a break on all kinds of stuff, all in the nebulous namesake of "internationalization". as for real internationalization, i take a group of my students to canada every year (more often than not, at significant expense to myself). i do get a bit of this back, indirectly since certain travel expenses are tax-deductible, but i don't think i'd call it a kickback, given the hundreds of hours of planning involved and the fact it leaves me dead tired when i get back!

[Mike Oxlong]

Are you sure about those figures? Does Interac really pay their employees 23 man a month and collect that kind of cake from it? If you're not sure admit it. If you have some kind of link to evidence I would be amazed. Because even when working direct with a BOE it's hard to get past 4 million as an individual. I'm not calling BULLSHIT I can believe it, but 8 million... No disrespect

Hey, I don't mind the question. Always check up on what you hear and read, eh...

The figures I mentioned were what I was told by another FG who works for one of these dispatch places. He is an area manager. So, in my case it's hearsay. Seems to be a straight-talker, but who knows...

Yeah, I know a chick who made 4.2 million - that's the highest I heard of direct from the BofE. Others have reported 6 million a year direct, but that's from a friend who knows a guy who (more hearsay)...But as I understand it, the dispatchers play up the undependable and unreliable and unpredictable angle on FGs, and take extra yen from the client for 'handling' the wild & outta control barbarian, and making them perform on cue.

The dispatch sells their 'curriculum', their expertise in handling FGs, and their 'reputation'...value-added.

[samuraiwig]

From what I gathered during time working at a dispatch agency for a couple of years, the company charged BoEs around 450,000-500,000 per month / 5.4-6 million per year.

If anything this figure would be higher, because they play their cards very close and give different people different information at different times. I guess 8 million could be possible, but it sounds a bit too high to be commonplace. Whatever the truth may be, the agencies get a nice slice for doing very little beyond the initial sales leg work.

ALTs were getting 250,000 for starters, with small incremental rises each year. ALT salaries were capped, so after staying for 'x' number of years they were stuck on the same money ad infinitum.

People I know contracted directly with BoEs, who are very few and far between, were mostly getting around 380,000-400,000 per month.

I'm sure there must be a thread either here or on a more ELT-focused site that would divulge more details.