In Japan, Women's Constitutional Rights in Peril

[FG Lurker]

In Japan, Women's Constitutional Rights in Peril
Women's eNews via Google News, May 5, 2005

Japan's ruling party is pursuing drastic revisions to the country's constitution, including rewording the guarantee of gender equality. Women's rights advocates say that if the revisions pass, Japan will return to "a dark period of history."

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The constitution, written in 1946 after World War II, helped reshape life for women here. One of its major changes was to ensure that marriage would be solely based on agreement of husband and wife, who had equal rights. Before then women were not guaranteed civil rights or legal rights. They were not allowed to vote or own property. Although husbands could file for divorce, wives could not.

Then, in June of last year, a constitutional revision panel of the ruling party proposed adding language to Article 24 of the constitution that would emphasize the values of family and community.

[...]

"It is shameful that Japanese people no longer think much of family, community and the nation, and that some of them even insist on having a system of retaining separate family names," Masahiro Morioka, a ruling party member in the House of Representatives said in the report. "The constitution must ensure that protecting family is the foundation of securing the nation."

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Oh the horror! Separate family names! Whatever shall we do?

[cstaylor]

I said this was going to happen. Changing Article 9 was a just an excuse for these old throwbacks to get out the safety scissors, crayons, and construction paper.

Expect Meiji Constitution Reloaded if it passes the Diet.

[Big Booger]

"Because there is a problem with low birth rate in Japan, the LDP [Liberal Democratic Party] thinks that by creating a system where women stay at home, they will have more children," she said. "They will become second-class citizens and men will head households. If a man doesn't want his wife to work, she will be forced to stay at home and take care of the family. It also means the care for the elderly in Japan's aging society, which is sure to become increasingly difficult, will fall to the daughter or daughter-in-law."

This says it all. I should think this will not pass... if so, I feel for the ladies of Japan... back to the cupboards you ol' bags... The husbands home where's my dinner?

What a load of shit. IF they want to improve the families, why not bust down on father's who fuck their daughters:

http://www.fuckedgaijin.com/forums/showthread.php?t=5504&highlight=paedophile

I don't think today's woman will put up with the shit of past generations...


What is happening to the world? Bush and his wackos are going to town on the wings of Angels bringing in a new era of Ultra-Christiandom... And the LDP are trying to bring back the Feudal Family Values of Meiji and Edo?

[Socratesabroad]

What is happening to the world? Bush and his wackos are going to town on the wings of Angels bringing in a new era of Ultra-Christiandom...

Enough

Enough of these posts already. I'm tired of seeing every other post here turn into some diatribe against Bush. Don't like the guy and hold US citizenship? Fine, vote for someone else the next go round. Don't like the guy and don't hold US citizenship? Fine, immigrate to the States and naturalize; in a short time you'll be able to vote. Otherwise, you're SOL. Then again, foreigners usually are whenever they are 'foreign', hence the a propos title Fucked Gaijin.

But enough of the bitching, at least around here. There are plenty of sites on US politics better suited to such tirades and swipes.

[GuyJean]

But enough of the bitching, at least around here.

Damn You, BB! How dare you speak your political mind on an Internet message board! Forcing me to read your posts of free thought. The inconsideration you display befuddles me..

GJ

[devicenull]

What is happening to the world? Bush and his wackos are going to town on the wings of Angels bringing in a new era of Ultra-Christiandom...

Enough

Enough of these posts already. I'm tired of seeing every other post here turn into some diatribe against Bush. Don't like the guy and hold US citizenship? Fine, vote for someone else the next go round. Don't like the guy and don't hold US citizenship? Fine, immigrate to the States and naturalize]

Thank you. I don't love the guy, but I really don't care anymore. If you want to whine about him, just go to DU

[Big Booger]

What is happening to the world? Bush and his wackos are going to town on the wings of Angels bringing in a new era of Ultra-Christiandom...

Enough

Enough of these posts already. I'm tired of seeing every other post here turn into some diatribe against Bush. Don't like the guy and hold US citizenship? Fine, vote for someone else the next go round. Don't like the guy and don't hold US citizenship? Fine, immigrate to the States and naturalize]


blow me

I'm sick of these posts that follow up on psts that come after every other post of some diatribe against Bush.

Last time I checked this was Fucked Gaijin, not Socrates Board.

[GuyJean]

I don't love the guy, but I really don't care anymore.

Then why comment?

Last time I checked this was Fucked Gaijin, not Socrates Board.

Nice one..

BB, I think you've been relatively balanced in your whining.. We've had different views on politics and debated them.. Keep it up, good man. You see, I'm a realist; I'll listen to your dissent... And more and more Amercans will too.

GJ

[FG Lurker]

What is happening to the world? Bush and his wackos are going to town on the wings of Angels bringing in a new era of Ultra-Christiandom...

Enough

Enough of these posts already. I'm tired of seeing every other post here turn into some diatribe against Bush.

What's wrong with what he wrote? Perhaps the fact that it is TRUE is what pisses you off?

[quote="Socratesabroad"]Don't like the guy and hold US citizenship? Fine, vote for someone else the next go round. Don't like the guy and don't hold US citizenship? Fine, immigrate to the States and naturalize]
What happened to freedom? Or would you be happier if the US moved even further away from being free and it became increasingly difficult to speak out against the government? The last time I checked "silencing critics" was not one of the tenets of a free nation.

[cstaylor]

Bringing the discussion back on topic, Bush isn't the reason the LDP wants to rollback women's rights... they've wanted to do that ever since the constitution was put in place.

[FG Lurker]

Bringing the discussion back on topic, Bush isn't the reason the LDP wants to rollback women's rights... they've wanted to do that ever since the constitution was put in place.

I agree that the two are not at all related. They are just happening at the same time, and both situations suck.

[Socratesabroad]

blow me

Thank you for such an erudite response. And here I was, silly me, attempting to be civil...

I'm sick of these posts that follow up on psts that come after every other post of some diatribe against Bush.

Is this some kind of modern play on 'I know you are but what am I?'

Last time I checked this was Fucked Gaijin, not Socrates Board.

I don't recall any claims of ownership or management on my part.

Damn You, BB! How dare you speak your political mind on an Internet message board! Forcing me to read your posts of free thought. The inconsideration you display befuddles me..

FG isn't simply an Internet message board, it's a board principally about Japan and things Japanese, hence the name Fucked Gaijin and not Why Bush is a Wanker. Exactly what does political sniping at Bush have to do with women's constitutional rights in Japan? Absolutely nothing. And, no, I'm not forced to read irrelevant posts but neither am I forced to read spam mail. However, it still shows up regardless and wading through all that crap is an inconvenience. FG has places like Beyond F*cked for posts unrelated to Japan, so I'd simply ask that BB go post his anti-Bush stuff there.

Here in FG, F*cked News is - according to the description - 'Odd news from Japan and all things Japanese around the world.' So exactly which part of the description did you and BB misunderstand?

What happened to freedom? Or would you be happier if the US moved even further away from being free and it became increasingly difficult to speak out against the government? The last time I checked "silencing critics" was not one of the tenets of a free nation.

Whoah, now. How did I become the enemy of free speech simply by chiding a poster who took a swipe at a political figure in a country completely unrelated to the topic?

But I'll be your huckleberry. As I'm sure you're aware, this message board, like many others, is not 'free' - at least not in the sense of a 'free-for-all' because you and I cannot post whatever we want. Hence bans on 'warez or otherwise illegal links,' 'prohibited topics,' and 'posting guidelines.'

Second, this is a message board, not a country - while Ultra does have some interesting knickknacks for sale, as far as I know he's not printing his own currency or creating his own armed forces.

Third, this forum - F*cked News deals with 'Odd news from Japan and all things Japanese around the world' so I assume 'speak[ing] out against the government' would refer to the Japanese government. Speaking out against other governments may be ethically defensible but falls outside the scope of this thread and this forum. Why not vent your political frustrations in Beyond F*cked where they belong?

[GuyJean]

How did I become the enemy of free speech simply by chiding a poster who took a swipe at a political figure in a country completely unrelated to the topic?

Actually, technically, it was on topic]What is happening to the world? Bush and his wackos are going to town on the wings of Angels bringing in a new era of Ultra-Christiandom... And the LDP are trying to bring back the Feudal Family Values of Meiji and Edo?[/quote] A comic book bubble of thought.. A moment of reflection in the bigger pond.. A mental jackoff, if you will..

Strange.. This thread has gone seriously off-topic, but I'm not sure BB was the cause..

GJ

[American Oyaji]

Anyway,
Back on topic...

1. Japanese women of the current era would leave in droves for FG beds unless they suspend their international travel rights.

2. The problem isn't really the family. It's the system, the machine. Japanese husbands are too busy and tired from working to come home and fuck.

3. Then you have the problem that after kids are born, the Japanese have this weird thing that wife changes to mother and is therefore unfuckable.

WTF!! Education can fix that. They are taking a chainsaw to a problem that a scalpel would fix.

[GomiGirl]

They are taking a chainsaw to a problem that a scalpel would fix.

But TIJ!!!!

* Women's only cars to stop gropers
* Suspect all foreigners due to rising crime rate
* etc etc etc

[American Oyaji]

You speak the truth WWGG

[Buraku]

more in another thread

- Japan 'developing nation' in terms of gender equality

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Japanese abandoning Japan