Kobe's public beaches ban tattoos

[Taro Toporific]

Tattoo Beach Bans “Violate Human Rights”
sankakucomplex.com| July 24, 2011
...this summer one of Kobe’s top public beaches has gone one step further by banning anyone with a tattoo from visiting the beach.
Signs at the beach warn against “intimidating other visitors [by displaying tattoos]” and police patrol the beach looking for infractions and demanding they either cover up immediately or leave...
...Along with the tattoo ban, a similar ban on “noise” and smoking on the beach is in effect...more...



Also refer to the previous FG threads:

• Tattoo Regret
  
• tattoo

[TennoChinko]

Did they kick out any FG sporting this kind of tattoo?

[Mike Oxlong]

I bet 99 out of hundred local beach-goers couldn't identify that.

[Yokohammer]

Did they kick out any FG sporting this kind of tattoo?

Ouch ... powerful comeback there TC.

[Iraira]

Did they kick out any FG sporting this kind of tattoo?

Must spread more before Tenno can get more rep which can he redeem at a pachinko place.

[nikoneko]

This is over at Suma beach I believe and they did it mainly because of a rash* of drugs and other problems supposedly breaking out there the last few years.

* a rash in the japan sense probably means a couple kids were caught smoking joints..

[Samurai_Jerk]

Since it's a public beach I guess it's OK for people with tattoos to stop paying taxes.

[2triky]

I bet 99 out of hundred local beach-goers couldn't identify that.

They'll think it's a zip code.

[Coligny]

They'll think it's a zip code.

Doctore, police, consumer association... All proudly focusing on hiding the symptoms instead of acting on the root of the problem... How can this kind of nationnal level of stupidity can be allowed... it's between mesmerizng and totally enraging...

[Jack]

Doctore, police, consumer association... All proudly focusing on hiding the symptoms instead of acting on the root of the problem... How can this kind of nationnal level of stupidity can be allowed... it's between mesmerizng and totally enraging...

I love it when a foreigner tells (lectures) the locals what to do to not look stupid in the eye of the foreigner.

[Jack]

[Screwed-down Hairdo]

I'd do her.

I'd rather do her tat.....

[***]

Why are Japanese offended by all tattoos?

I mean, what about the kid with a Mickey Mouse Tattoo or the typical Canadian with the Canadian Flag tattooed on his arm / shoulder / leg?

Those kinds of tattoos aren't offensive and they don't frighten the Japanese.

So what gives? What's the real reason the government bans tattoos at the beach?

[Gum]

I am wondering if any FGs here have ink on any part of their body (but in particular the arms). I am just wondering besides wearing dress shirts and long sleeves how you deal with this in the long term...

I have some myself (as you can see on the pic) and besides going to school and doing simple things for a short time over in J land it was not that great of an issue as I out of respect and common sense I kept my arms well covered. (With the exception of wearing long sleeve v-neck type shirts to areas where it did not seem much of an issue due to the amount of gaijin shoppers like Harajuku).

Any FG(s) willing to shed some light on this (if any) that has been there for a while with a job, etc. Has having ink taken a toll on you in the long run? Any strange odd exp. you are willing to share?

-Gum-

[Coligny]

I love it when a foreigner tells (lectures) the locals what to do to not look stupid in the eye of the foreigner.

Imbecile...

Not that you don't already know it... I hope...

[Typhoon]

I'd rather do her tat.....

FTW

[Proxy]

I am wondering if any FGs here have ink on any part of their body (but in particular the arms). I am just wondering besides wearing dress shirts and long sleeves how you deal with this in the long term...

I have some myself (as you can see on the pic) and besides going to school and doing simple things for a short time over in J land it was not that great of an issue as I out of respect and common sense I kept my arms well covered. (With the exception of wearing long sleeve v-neck type shirts to areas where it did not seem much of an issue due to the amount of gaijin shoppers like Harajuku).

Any FG(s) willing to shed some light on this (if any) that has been there for a while with a job, etc. Has having ink taken a toll on you in the long run? Any strange odd exp. you are willing to share?

-Gum-

i have a great many tattoos and have never had a problem. if you have a job that says no, cover them. if the onsen says no, don't go. it's common sense.
as for experiences....this time last summer i was out and about when a senile old japanese woman came over and asked if she could stroke my tattoos. i said have at it.
and the guy at immigration at narita wanted to chat a bit about them.
but other than that, ive got nothing.

[BigInJapan]

... the typical Canadian with the Canadian Flag tattooed on his arm / shoulder / leg?

"typical Canadian"?
I consider myself to a fairly "typical" Canuck, and I have never met, or seen anyone with a maple leaf tatoo.
Not to say they don't exist, as a Google image search does indeed prove their existence - but I'll wager that more than 90% of said tatoo owners are young and got them within the last 10 years (and they are far from typical IMHO).

[tone]

harsh...

i know this echoes a previous thread, but does this mean a good number of public facilities have anti tattoo policies? trains, libraries, community centers, squash clubs, outdoor tennis courts?

[Samurai_Jerk]

I'm not a big fan of tattoos and I understand why some businesses won't hire people with tattoos that can't be easily covered. However, I have a big problem with any sort of public facility banning people from using it because they are tattooed. Tattoos are not illegal and don't harm anyone around them. The worst thing a another person's tattoo can do is make an uptight asshole feel a bit uneasy. That kind of person feels uneasy about a whole lot of other shit too though.

[IparryU]

harsh...

i know this echoes a previous thread, but does this mean a good number of public facilities have anti tattoo policies? trains, libraries, community centers, squash clubs, outdoor tennis courts?

wow... this is just plain stupid...

I am not a fan of tatoos because I was always told that tatoos are just ID for the police... fucked reason, but made good sense for me.

IMO a public location should not ban tattoos if they still allow smoking. just pure jackassedness if not. but tattoos don't hurt anyone but the one who gets them done... so why worry.

Now if someone had a tattoo of a tsunami, bomb, racial stuffs, or gang related stuffs i can understand them getting the boot, but it still shouldn't be a reason to kick someone out, no way.

but in this cuntry anything that has some minor offenses to people is banned, but pissing in public, being drunk in public, mass child porn production, other_shit_i_hate is ok...

live with it, TIJ

[Samurai_Jerk]

IMO a public location should not ban tattoos if they still allow smoking.

They also banned smoking. Another bullshit move.

[matsuki]

I'm not a big fan of tattoos and I understand why some businesses won't hire people with tattoos that can't be easily covered.

THIS INDEED

However, I have a big problem with any sort of public facility banning people from using it because they are tattooed. Tattoos are not illegal and don't harm anyone around them. The worst thing a another person's tattoo can do is make an uptight asshole feel a bit uneasy. That kind of person feels uneasy about a whole lot of other shit too though.

Yeah, I never really considered anything other than a small design but completely dropped the idea when I set out to move here. Just not worth the trouble. My friends here that have tats are always getting shit and the few that claim they aren't, just don't understand enough of the language/culture to read between the polite lines. Then there is the whole issue with your sweet lil aiko, even if she's ok with thee tats, as soon as her parents find out, the FG hate/prejudice becomes stronger...if they'll even meet you. Keep in mind that although there are plenty of gyarus and open minded families out there, I still run across plenty of lemurs in this country that will not pierce their ears, citing that their parents would flip out.

So yes, banning them at public facility? Overly sensation, grumpy, old people with outdated views on society and too much time on their hands have officially taken over this country...

They also banned smoking. Another bullshit move.

Ehhh, I'm with them on this...fucking hate getting cropdusted by walking smokers or just plain showered by smoke when the people next to you light up.

[Yokohammer]

Ehhh, I'm with them on this...fucking hate getting cropdusted by walking smokers or just plain showered by smoke when the people next to you light up.

Same here. And that's coming from an ex-smoker (although I quit more than 20 years ago).

[Samurai_Jerk]

Ehhh, I'm with them on this...fucking hate getting cropdusted by walking smokers or just plain showered by smoke when the people next to you light up.

I've never been a smoker and personally I agree with you about cigarattes but what about when people decide they don't like drunk people on the beach and alcohol gets banned? Then you end up with a bullshit situation like most of the US where you can't have a cold beer on a hot day at just about every public park or beach. How fucking horrible is it having a BBQ at the park without a beer or going to a 4th of July celebration and drinking soft drinks all day?

The fact is there is no established link between second-hand smoke and cancer. The only reason everyone gets behind the bans is they don't like the way smoke smells and various government agencies have lied about the results of studies that time and again DON'T support their theory.

[IparryU]

So yes, banning them at public facility? Overly sensation, grumpy, old people with outdated views on society and too much time on their hands have officially taken over this country...

they all will die out within the next decade... yay!

Then you end up with a bullshit situation like most of the US where you can't have a cold beer on a hot day at just about every public park or beach. How fucking horrible is it having a BBQ at the park without a beer or going to a 4th of July celebration and drinking soft drinks all day?

yes, this is complete bullshit... but from my experience with my family 4th of July parties at public parks, the police will stop by to check your cooler (if you are Mexican or black) to check how much supply you have. As long as you are not acting belligerent they will just say to keep your cool and have a good evening. It also helps having little children about so it looks like a family orientation rather than a whole bunch of wet backs having a fiesta...

Yes... Mexicans + alcohol = trouble in the making... but if whitey sitting at the next bench has a table full of buds they cant say that much... good times...

[Samurai_Jerk]

yes, this is complete bullshit... but from my experience with my family 4th of July parties at public parks, the police will stop by to check your cooler (if you are Mexican or black) to check how much supply you have. As long as you are not acting belligerent they will just say to keep your cool and have a good evening. It also helps having little children about so it looks like a family orientation rather than a whole bunch of wet backs having a fiesta...

Yes... Mexicans + alcohol = trouble in the making... but if whitey sitting at the next bench has a table full of buds they cant say that much... good times...

It really depends on the state or town you live in. They're dicks in Seattle. At the 4th of July party and fireworks show that is in a public park (Gasworks Park) and free to anyone who wants to go they put up temporary fences and have two check points where they check every bag and cooler for alcohol and confiscate anything that they find.

I hear NYC is pretty bad now too. When I was growing up there they left you alone as long as the alcohol container wasn't visible or you weren't causing trouble. But ever since Guiliani and Bloomberg decided to try to turn the place into little Singapore things have changed.

And why the fuck would I want to bring kids to a party? Nothing I hate more than when my friends and I plan a party and some douche bag turns up with their kids.

[matsuki]

I've never been a smoker and personally I agree with you about cigarattes but what about when people decide they don't like drunk people on the beach and alcohol gets banned? Then you end up with a bullshit situation like most of the US where you can't have a cold beer on a hot day at just about every public park or beach. How fucking horrible is it having a BBQ at the park without a beer or going to a 4th of July celebration and drinking soft drinks all day?

The fact is there is no established link between second-hand smoke and cancer. The only reason everyone gets behind the bans is they don't like the way smoke smells and various government agencies have lied about the results of studies that time and again DON'T support their theory.

No way they'll ban alcohol here...it's one of the cuntriiiii's finer points.

Cancer aside, the smoke makes everyone in the vicinity smell like ashtrays and if you're trying to eat, the smoke overwhelms your senses by choking you with tobacco/tar/shit. Granted, drunk people can be annoying and cause trouble but the restaurants/police/etc. usually make them leave if they get out of hand. When some jackasses that have no manners site next to you and light up all you get is the typical shoganai

Same here. And that's coming from an ex-smoker (although I quit more than 20 years ago).

You can probably explain this better than me (i've never been a smoker) but all my friends that used to smoke always describe how better everything smells/tastes after they quite. (and how shitty cigarette smoke smells to them) It's like someone who's hearing is so bad, they need to blast their headphones so loud that everyone around them can hear it...their sense of smell (and manners) just isn't normal and gets rationalized by their own selfish addiction.

[maraboutslim]

You know, it's not like your sense of smell only improves for "good" smells once you quit smoking. You have to suffer through being able to now smell how bad the city smells as well!

[IparryU]

When some jackasses that have no manners site next to you and light up all you get is the typical shoganai

i have had a few occasions where some asshole lights up right next to my kids in a sit down type of environment. the fuckers ended up quickly moving away or putting out their cigarette really fast...

if it is just me and the wife... shoganai. but not around the kids... that is where the line is for me. I have seen other FG parents do the same and the j-families around that didn't smoke were quite happy with it, but they wouldn't have supported them if the smoker were to get all mad and talk shit. TIJ