I wouldn't do this to my dog.

by **Taro Toporific** » Thu Sep 18, 2003 1:35 pm

Forgetful father leaves toddler to die in hot car
Mainichi Shimbun, Japan, Sept. 18, 2003
KAGOSHIMA -- A 2-year-old girl tragically died after her father forgot to drop her at day-care center and left her in his car for nearly 10 hours while he went to work...Akinobu Shimobeppu, a 32-year-old teacher at the Setouchi Municipal Koniya Elementary School on the Kagoshima Prefecture island of Amami Oshima, did not realize ... and went to work. The temperature in Setouchi soared to 31 degree Celsius on Wednesday. ..

by **GomiGirl** » Thu Sep 18, 2003 1:44 pm

Unfortunately this happens often in Australia to dogs and small children and usually outside Casino's or places with poker machines. :cry:

by **Caustic Saint** » Thu Sep 18, 2003 2:31 pm

There's a huge rash of these every summer in the US. Thankfully, the cops aren't buying the "oh, I forgot all about him!" excuse anymore and are starting to charge the parents with manslaughter - if not murder.

Let's face it, the majority of these cases are nothing more than retroactive abortions. The "Li'l Sizzler" has become the way to get out of being a parent once you've realized it's not the dreamland you thought it was going to be.

The days of "the family has suffered enough and there's no need to punish them" are gone. Thank goodness.

by **Jack** » Fri Sep 19, 2003 9:33 pm

This happened in Quebec last summer when a father went to the casino and left the toddler in the car when it was 32C.

by **Alcazar** » Sat Sep 20, 2003 2:26 am

GomiGirl wrote:Unfortunately this happens often in Australia to dogs and small children and usually outside Casino's or places with poker machines.

Yeah and most of the time it is Chinese parents leaving their kids in the casino car park while they feed their gambling addiction for many hours. I don't care if you disagree with this statement-'Say it to the hand'.

by **Caustic Saint** » Sat Sep 20, 2003 7:48 am

Alcazar wrote:
GomiGirl wrote:Unfortunately this happens often in Australia to dogs and small children and usually outside Casino's or places with poker machines.

Yeah and most of the time it is Chinese parents leaving their kids in the casino car park while they feed their gambling addiction for many hours. I don't care if you disagree with this statement-'Say it to the hand'.

I don't disagree with it - if you're talking about the cases in Australia. In the US it's close to 100% white, suburban types that do this. Wal-Mart and one's own driveway seem to be the top location choices.

by **Alcazar** » Sat Sep 20, 2003 3:19 pm

Caustic Saint wrote:I don't disagree with it - if you're talking about the cases in Australia. In the US it's close to 100% white, suburban types that do this. Wal-Mart and one's own driveway seem to be the top location choices.

Yes, in Australia it has been mainly related to casinos, people who just play all day non-stop.

by **ramchop** » Mon Sep 22, 2003 10:45 am

Alcazar wrote:Yeah and most of the time it is Chinese parents leaving their kids in the casino car park while they feed their gambling addiction for many hours. I don't care if you disagree with this statement-'Say it to the hand'.

One example please.

by **GomiGirl** » Mon Sep 22, 2003 2:08 pm

ramchop wrote:
Alcazar wrote:Yeah and most of the time it is Chinese parents leaving their kids in the casino car park while they feed their gambling addiction for many hours. I don't care if you disagree with this statement-'Say it to the hand'.

One example please.

I'ver never known it to be a Chinese problem in Australia - it is usuall Joe/Joanne Public - white folk that seem to be the main offenders.

gambling addiction is not a racial issue as far as I know... why you are so certain that it is.. (BTW talk to the hand is so Jerry Springer!!)

by **cliffy** » Mon Sep 22, 2003 5:38 pm

As someone who works in the industry in Aust. I have to agree with GG, it is a problem that is shared with all kinds of people. Crown casino in Melbourne, Victoria, Aust. had a couple of widely reported instances of parents leaving their children in the car in the car park who were of Veitnamese origin (but other cases of such were not so widely reported). Star city in Sydney has had the same as well as all other casinos in Australia, my own workplace, Cairn's Reef casino, has also had cases of parents leaving their children outside of the casino while the played, Cairns for those who didn't know is in the tropics and is not a place to be out in the noonday sun (thankyou Noel Coward). My car's inside temp rises from 27 degC to 38/9 degC in three minutes parked in a covered car park in the wet (summer) season, parked in the open, the plastic trim starts to melt it turns very soft from its normal firm state very quickly (less than two minutes in one instance). bugger sitting in that for hours

by **Alcazar** » Mon Sep 22, 2003 7:24 pm

GomiGirl wrote:Gambling addiction is not a racial issue as far as I know... why you are so certain that it is..

No it is not a racial issue, (nice try on the race card), it is a cultural issue. 'Chinese' is a culture as well as a 'race'. Fancing not knowing that Chinese culture values gambling, next you will be professing your ignorance of the Chinese love for gold!

1.

[url=http://www.google.com.au/search?q=cache:Kz352RqeGkQJ:[url]www.abgaminginstitute.ualberta.ca/agrilibrary/word/asian_gambling.pdf+Australia+chinese+problem+gambling&hl=en&ie=UTF-8][/url] 2. [/url]

3.:P 'Oooh My!' Ramchop, New Zealand example! BTW Ramchop your response was such a New Zealand Labour Party, PC, 1992, gentile poverty 'Because we like socialism' response. On the mainland, that kind of attitude is now obsolete (and in hiding)...

4.

5.

Consider yourselves educated/eviscerated..... :roll:

by **GomiGirl** » Mon Sep 22, 2003 7:49 pm

Well yes I have been to the casinos in Macau blah blah blah, but it was really your rude attitude that struck me more than anything.. also we were talking about leaving kids and dogs in cars and you suddenly turned it into a chinese issue. I am sure if I could be bothered, I could find as many examples of "white" people doing the same thing.. but I am busy now..

by **Alcazar** » Mon Sep 22, 2003 8:06 pm

GomiGirl wrote:Well yes I have been to the casinos in Macau blah blah blah, but it was really your rude attitude that struck me more than anything.. also we were talking about leaving kids and dogs in cars and you suddenly turned it into a Chinese issue. I am sure if I could be bothered, I could find as many examples of "white" people doing the same thing..

Well yeah, there are all sorts of people who are gambling addicts. I was making the point (I forgot why now) that Chinese people love to gamble, and for cultural reasons disproportionately gamble to excess, a point I demonstrated.

And no, I wasn't being rude, but you sure took the bait. :idea:

by **tidbits** » Mon Sep 22, 2003 8:23 pm

Fancing not knowing that Chinese culture values gambling, next you will be professing your ignorance of the Chinese love for gold!

????? I disagree because I was brought up with a lot of influences on Chinese culture. Gambling is definately a No-No, not just Chinese cultures, no other cultures in Singapore value gambling. Is not common to have cards at home. Chinese do love money (in olden days is gold) For instance in New Year, you will hear lot of wishes about Properity,(besides wishes on good health, safety etc.) and adults will give money in red packets to children too.

by **Alcazar** » Mon Sep 22, 2003 8:49 pm

tinateoh wrote:????? I disagree because I was brought up with a lot of influences onf Chinese culture. Gambling is definately a No-No, not just Chinese cultures, no other cultures in Singapore value gambling. Is not common to have cards at home. Chinese do love money (in olden days is gold) For instance in New Year, you will hear lot of wishes about Properity,(besides wishes on good health, safety etc.) and adults will give money in red packets to children too.

Ah yes I can see what you mean. However Singapore has cracked down on gambling because of the problems it has caused Chinese culture around the world. Singapore is a really puritanical place, with lots of things banned, but it doesnt mean Chinese don't like gambling. They like it so much they had to ban casinos in Singapore! It was causing problems. But really, so what, there are lots of gambling addicts in Australia who play poker machines, but that is an individual problem, not a reason to destroy an industry as many call for here.

I don't look down on the Chinese for liking gambling, there is nothing wrong with gambling in itself, it shows the Chinese like games and a fun time. Speaking of gambling I was reading about pachinko last night here: http://www.pripix.com/features/pachinko.htm.

When I was in Japan as a nine year old, I loved those pachinko balls, bouncing them down stairwells. I want to try out pachinko as an adult in Japan at least once.

by **tidbits** » Mon Sep 22, 2003 9:46 pm

In Malaysia, the muslim (mainly malays) are not allowed in the law to gamble, so what you can see is the Chinese (who is the second majority) and Indians (minority) in the casino or turf clubs, (which might leads people to think that only Chinese loves gambling. There are Chinese who like gambling (as any other nation would, otherwise there won't be Las Vegas), but there are really many Chinese who hates gambling too (like me and lots of other Chinese that I know), so is not fair to say Chinese love gambling. Gambling is no fun at all, pachinko is real boring, believe me.

by **Taro Toporific** » Mon Sep 22, 2003 10:54 pm

tinateoh wrote:... pachinko is real boring, believe me.

And pachinko is PAINFULLY noisy! :evil:

by **Alcazar** » Mon Sep 22, 2003 11:39 pm

Taro Toporific wrote:
tinateoh wrote:... pachinko is real boring, believe me.

And pachinko is PAINFULLY noisy!

I'll at least have one go, and get a Japanese 'veteran' to advise me...

by **Andocrates** » Tue Sep 23, 2003 6:09 am

tinateoh
More F*cked than You

You are Chinese? Wow now your handle makes so much sense. It must suck to have to deal with so much crap. Because the Chinese culture is so interesting to the rest of the world a ton of sterotypes have sprung up.

Chinese all know kung-fu
Chinese are all good in Math
Chinese are all cheap as Scotsmen
Chinese all know ancient laundry tricks
They have secret medical information
They all excel in Math
They can learn Kanji easy (oh wait!)
etc etc.

I hope I get to meet you someday.

by **ramchop** » Tue Sep 23, 2003 8:48 am

Alcazar wrote:Consider yourselves educated/eviscerated.....

I applaud your attempt at research, but you've still failed to provide an example of the "mostly Chinese" parents who let their children die in cars.

Let me guess, the PC press would never publish such an important fact, so you couldn't come up with an example. However, you just know because of your great insight.

Only 3.2% of the Australian popluation is Chinese yet most of these cases of criminal neglect is down to this small community. Bullshit!

by **tidbits** » Tue Sep 23, 2003 9:33 am

It must suck to have to deal with so much crap.

Just have to get used to it since I have to deal with it in my home country anyway..

Chinese all know kung-fu
Chinese are all good in Math
Chinese are all cheap as Scotsmen
Chinese all know ancient laundry tricks
They have secret medical information
They all excel in Math
They can learn Kanji easy (oh wait!)
etc etc.

crazy..but what is ancient laundy tricks anyway? That one sounds interesting. I do know some Chinese cheapskate trick: if you want to save some water on laundry, you can turn your panty three times (so you can use every corner (provided your panty is triangular shape) and again turn it inside out and used it another 3 times, so total you can use it 6 times before you wash! Er..off course for the man I know the shape is slighty diffrent..

Kanji? I have to learn since seven years old and I was learning the complicated ones..but knowing kanji can never mean I am good/ fast in Japanese.

Sorry, getting out of the main topic again.

by **Caustic Saint** » Tue Sep 23, 2003 9:51 am

tinateoh wrote::lol: crazy..but what is ancient laundy tricks anyway? That one sounds interesting.

From inthe80s.com

The Calgon in the Chinese Laundromat: Woman comes in and asks how the cleaner gets her laundry so fresh. He laughs and says "Ancient Chinese Secret." The woman in the back says "We need more Calgon" and the customer says "Ancient Chinese secret huh????" and the proprieter smiles embarassingly (very cheesy)

by **AssKissinger** » Tue Sep 23, 2003 10:03 am

you can turn your panty three times (so you can use every corner (provided your panty is triangular shape) and again turn it inside out and used it another 3 times, so total you can use it 6 times before you wash!

Urgent message! Don't wash! Send to me immediately!

by **tidbits** » Tue Sep 23, 2003 10:24 am

Urgent message! Don't wash! Send to me immediately!

wait..I haven't finished using all the six corners yet..

by **AssKissinger** » Tue Sep 23, 2003 10:53 am

tinateoh wrote:
Urgent message! Don't wash! Send to me immediately!

wait..I haven't finished using all the six corners yet..

by **Taro Toporific** » Mon Jul 30, 2007 11:32 pm

Forgetful father leaves toddler to die in hot car
Mainichi Shimbun, Japan, Sept. 18, 2003...

Toddler dies after being left by nursery staff in car for three hours
japan today Monday, July 30, 2007 at 08:13 EDT
KITAKYUSHU--A 2-year-old boy from a private nursery school in Kitakyushu, Fukuoka Prefecture, died Friday apparently of heatstroke after school staff left him in a vehicle for over three hours on the hot summer day...more...

by **Doctor Stop** » Tue Jul 31, 2007 12:27 am

That shouldn't be happening these days. Haven't most pachinko parlours upgraded to air-conditioned lockers to stuff your kids in while you lose this month's rent money?

by **Taro Toporific** » Tue Jul 31, 2007 1:58 am

Doctor Stop wrote: Haven't most pachinko parlours upgraded to air-conditioned lockers to stuff your kids in while you lose this month's rent money?

I think those could be pre-publicity for the upcoming movie version of Coin Locker Babies that's coming in 2008 according to the IMDB .

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