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Keiyaku Koushin Moneyzzzzz

Postby matsuki » Wed Jan 15, 2014 1:29 am

So my Tokyo man-shun 2 year contract was up last August...but then IPU moved in and with the rent and lemurs being shared, suddenly life was that much easier. So we've been paying month to month as usual and suddenly there is a envelope from the fudoyasan in the post, (owner lives below us but she doesn't handle anything...the fudoyasan basically handles all.) demanding 契約更新料 (contract renewal fee) of 1 month's rent for the contract that ended 5 months ago. Never once was asked to pay before (when the contract ended) in Aug. and I figured they were just happy to have someone that paid on time. Sooooo, while I know most sappy Japanese wouldn't question this and just pay...I'm wondering what the legal stance is on this? IIRC, many just ignore this shit and continue to pay their monthly rent?
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Re: Keiyaku Koushin Moneyzzzzz

Postby Doctor Stop » Wed Jan 15, 2014 11:07 am

You never received the letter.
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Re: Keiyaku Koushin Moneyzzzzz

Postby Yokohammer » Wed Jan 15, 2014 11:22 am

Choko,

Read your contract.
If you're obliged to pay renewal it'll be stipulated in the current contract.
If it's not there you can forget it.
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Re: Keiyaku Koushin Moneyzzzzz

Postby matsuki » Wed Jan 15, 2014 1:59 pm

I'm guessing it was in the original contract Yoko....but that expired 5 months ago so I wonder if it would legally apply as I haven't signed a new contract and here we are 5 months later and I'm being asked to sign one and pay. I guess it comes down to how much of a dick I want to be to the old dude but I do need to find my original contract as there is a chance a haggled that koushin fee away with the reikin.
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Re: Keiyaku Koushin Moneyzzzzz

Postby Yokohammer » Wed Jan 15, 2014 2:02 pm

chokonen888 wrote:I'm guessing it was in the original contract Yoko....but that expired 5 months ago so I wonder if it would legally apply as I haven't signed a new contract and here we are 5 months later and I'm being asked to sign one and pay. I guess it comes down to how much of a dick I want to be to the old dude but I do need to find my original contract as there is a chance a haggled that koushin fee away with the reikin.

Legally, your contract carries over when you renew, so any terms in the original remain in effect. They shouldn't need you to sign a new contract unless some terms have changed.

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Re: Keiyaku Koushin Moneyzzzzz

Postby matsuki » Wed Jan 15, 2014 2:17 pm

Well there you have it, now to find that contract!
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Re: Keiyaku Koushin Moneyzzzzz

Postby IparryU » Wed Jan 15, 2014 2:43 pm

chokonen888 wrote:Well there you have it, now to find that contract!

yup... i hope you didnt bring it to niigata...
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Re: Keiyaku Koushin Moneyzzzzz

Postby matsuki » Wed Jan 15, 2014 2:49 pm

IparryU wrote:
chokonen888 wrote:Well there you have it, now to find that contract!

yup... i hope you didnt bring it to niigata...


That's even better...I can have lemur pull it out and check it.
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Re: Keiyaku Koushin Moneyzzzzz

Postby IparryU » Wed Jan 15, 2014 3:00 pm

chokonen888 wrote:
IparryU wrote:
chokonen888 wrote:Well there you have it, now to find that contract!

yup... i hope you didnt bring it to niigata...


That's even better...I can have lemur pull it out and check it.

fine... i hope you did take it there then
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Re: Keiyaku Koushin Moneyzzzzz

Postby wagyl » Wed Jan 15, 2014 4:29 pm

You two, get a room! Oh, you already have.
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Re: Keiyaku Koushin Moneyzzzzz

Postby IparryU » Wed Jan 15, 2014 7:09 pm

wagyl wrote:You two, get a room! Oh, you already have.

Was we talking that dirty... My bad for fucking up your wet daydreams.

But just so you can picture it... Imagine the the sound of constant, hard ass smacking...

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Re: Keiyaku Koushin Moneyzzzzz

Postby wagyl » Wed Jan 15, 2014 7:24 pm

haha. I am guessing that is just before you
chokonen888 wrote:have lemur pull it out and check it.
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Re: Keiyaku Koushin Moneyzzzzz

Postby yanpa » Wed Jan 15, 2014 9:20 pm

Altogether too much detail here...

chokonen888 wrote:but then IPU moved in and with the rent and lemurs being shared
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Re: Keiyaku Koushin Moneyzzzzz

Postby legion » Wed Jan 15, 2014 9:34 pm

I think Tokyo is trying to stamp out renewal fees

You should talk to a lawyer

http://www.t-pblo.jp/fiss/
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Re: Keiyaku Koushin Moneyzzzzz

Postby wagyl » Wed Jan 15, 2014 9:48 pm

Reality check: first compare the cost of that consultation with a lawyer with the amount you would be required to pay in renewal fees.

Or else, gather free advice off the net (which you are doing here) first.
http://www.homes.co.jp/article/chintai/chintai_006/
http://www.yomiuri.co.jp/otona/life/law ... T01022.htm

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Re: Keiyaku Koushin Moneyzzzzz

Postby legion » Wed Jan 15, 2014 10:02 pm

Those lawyers charge 5000JPY for a half hour consultation, which is all you need
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Re: Keiyaku Koushin Moneyzzzzz

Postby yanpa » Wed Jan 15, 2014 10:16 pm

Also some of them might be hot single mothers who want to check out the place for themselves :twisted:
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Re: Keiyaku Koushin Moneyzzzzz

Postby Doctor Stop » Thu Jan 16, 2014 12:53 am

Doctor Stop wrote:You never received the letter.

What letter?
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Re: Keiyaku Koushin Moneyzzzzz

Postby matsuki » Thu Jan 16, 2014 12:48 pm

Doctor Stop wrote:
Doctor Stop wrote:You never received the letter.

What letter?


I'd so do this but the dude is literally the building next door and would probably pop on over unexpected eventually.
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Re: Keiyaku Koushin Moneyzzzzz

Postby IparryU » Thu Jan 16, 2014 1:26 pm

chokonen888 wrote:
Doctor Stop wrote:
Doctor Stop wrote:You never received the letter.

What letter?


I'd so do this but the dude is literally the building next door and would probably pop on over unexpected eventually.

Like when lemurs are there? Baaaaad timing.

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