Why you shouldn't teach English in Korea

[yarichin01]

Not really Japan related but it very well could be given the current state of the ESL market here and funny shit none the less. Embed failure.

http://www.xtranormal.com/watch/7839719/

[Mulboyne]

Also:

http://www.xtranormal.com/watch/7861639/

[Coligny]

Moderately dreadfull...

Wuz Take behind this ? because the 4 seasons shtick... I didun't knew them Korean wuz doin' it too... and am still not shure aboot it...

[FG Lurker]

Yeah, I have heard that Koreans go on about their special 4 seasons too, and the chopsticks crap. For all the two countries hate each other they are similar in many ways. Familiarity breeds contempt.

[Samurai_Jerk]

Yeah, I have heard that Koreans go on about their special 4 seasons too, and the chopsticks crap. For all the two countries hate each other they are similar in many ways. Familiarity breeds contempt.

It's like Sunnis and Shiites hating each other. The more you have in common the more you have to argue about.

[FG Lurker]

It's like Sunnis and Shiites hating each other. The more you have in common the more you have to argue about.

That's what "Familiarity breeds contempt" means.

[BigInJapan]

Not really Japan related but it very well could be given the current state of the ESL market here and funny shit none the less.
http://www.xtranormal.com/watch/7861639/

Nice find. It would appear that there is virtually no difference between punters "teaching" English in Korea, and [color="RoyalBlue"]cultural mentors[/color], I mean eikaiwa "sensei" here in Japan.

[Kanchou]

pretty funny.

[james]

Nice find. It would appear that there is virtually no difference between punters "teaching" English in Korea, and [color="RoyalBlue"]cultural mentors[/color], I mean eikaiwa "sensei" here in Japan.

go ahead and bash while feeling superior for doing whatever it is you deem to be of substantially more benefit to society.

some of us actually put a modicum of effort into what we do with the objective of achieving tangible results; disdain from the likes of you notwithstanding.

[Coligny]

[quote="james"]go ahead and bash while feeling superior for doing whatever it is you deem to be of substantially more benefit to society.

some of us actually put a modicum of effort into what we do with the objective of achieving tangible results]

Side notes... my students (40-70 yo)are 10 times more interested by cultural trivia than any french learning... They put some stuff in perspective... Like how 'luck' is the prevalent factor over proper addressing when trying to receive a postal parcel, or how any interactivity with the local police force not ending in being chained to a radiator for 24h is considered a courteous one despite whichever number of bruise you end up with...

[james]

Like how 'luck' is the prevalent factor over proper addressing when trying to receive a postal parcel

lol. that reminds me of when my russian professor in university described flying with aeroflot. he also said no one ever complained, regardless of the outcome.

[BigInJapan]

[quote="james"]
some of us actually put a modicum of effort into what we do with the objective of achieving tangible results]
Actually, my post was not meant to bash those that really teach English (in Japan, or Korea).
I have several foreign friends that are longtime J residents that teach English, including private tutors, English school owners, and tenured professors at private universities and I completely respect the honest hard work that they do.

The reason I used quotes around "teaching" and "sensei" is that the "punters" (I thought about saying Charisma Man instead), are the opposite (they do not really "teach", and are not really "sensei").
e.g. the foreign Charisma Man type guy in the kimchi video admits to not really being a teacher, looks down on the local culture, and guys like him are just there to be a slacker and hope to get paid for "teaching" when all they do is low-level mediocre conversation.

[Samurai_Jerk]

Actually, my post was not meant to bash those that really teach English (in Japan, or Korea).
I have several foreign friends that are longtime J residents that teach English, including private tutors, English school owners, and tenured professors at private universities and I completely respect the honest hard work that they do.

The reason I used quotes around "teaching" and "sensei" is that the "punters" (I thought about saying Charisma Man instead), are the opposite (they do not really "teach", and are not really "sensei").
e.g. the foreign Charisma Man type guy in the kimchi video admits to not really being a teacher, looks down on the local culture, and guys like him are just there to be a slacker and hope to get paid for "teaching" when all they do is low-level mediocre conversation.

As someone who taught ESL/EFL in Japan and the US for 9 years in various types of schools I can say that overall the people in that line of work are losers. And before you try to zing me with a smartass questions like "Well, what does that say about you?" let me go ahead and answer: Unfortunately, it says a lot.

[tone]

Actually, my post was not meant to bash those that really teach English (in Japan, or Korea).
(they do not really "teach", and are not really "sensei").
e.g. the foreign Charisma Man type guy in the kimchi video admits to not really being a teacher, looks down on the local culture, and guys like him are just there to be a slacker and hope to get paid for "teaching" when all they do is low-level mediocre conversation.

haha, so true. the myths on both sides are hilarious - eg, what the students are thinking and what the "teacher" is thinking going in and during the contract.

im sure there is no end to weird work sittuations in that industry

thats why in my time i avoided roppongi - maybe not for good reason, but thats what i imagined it to be - and i even worked in Hiroo for 1 year.

it also goes to show the value of a "bullshit" college degree. I got one also, taught english as a youngin 21-23, and had to come back to Seattle and hustle my ass off developing a skill. i can't imagine if i had been at a school i loved and stuck around for 10 yrs.

[tone]

my bad - just read above, one of the posters talking about gaijin disdain

and yeah, my bad for engaging in that. but i do have a knee jerk disdain for the low end english edu industry, but maybe it still does some good for the population...

[matsuki]

my bad - just read above, one of the posters talking about gaijin disdain

and yeah, my bad for engaging in that. but i do have a knee jerk disdain for the low end english edu industry, but maybe it still does some good for the population...

Keyword there is low end...some good people there too but the majority are the peasants that give western foreigners here a bad name.

Regarding Korea, been there on vacation, was like Japan "X" number of years ago. Good cheap food/fun but wouldn't consider living there. (what is the obsession with bubbles? from their written language to all their architecture and car design! bubbles everywhere!!) All the people I know that have lived in both Japan and Korea say the "outsider" discrimination is slightly worse in Korea mentality-wise and then add that they don't hide it behind a smile and fake politeness. They also complained that anywhere outside Seoul, all the girls were fugly clone looking with the same straight banged bowl haircuts.

[AssKissinger]

Compared to the drudgery of doing 'real work' back home teaching English abroad was paradise. I was hopping around Asia and getting laid a lot. I hated teaching real little kids and had some crooked bosses but besides that the work was fine. I came to work wasted, had money to blow in bars and restaurants and still I could take trips all over: Hong Kong, Vietnam, Nepal, and so on. I don't know anyone in America that lives like that. I would take that over making $100,000+ with three or four weeks off a year any fucking day. Not that I've ever managed anything that good in the States. I know eikaiwa has gone down the shitter but I'm glad I was there during what I think was probably the Golden Age.

[McTojo]

I believe everything in that video truly happens. Disgusting!

[AssKissinger]

I believe everything in that video truly happens. Disgusting!

It was like that when I taught in Korea. I told my boss if he didn't cut the shit I was going to beat his ass down hard in front of the kiddies and he straightened up after that.

[Samurai_Jerk]

I know eikaiwa has gone down the shitter but I'm glad I was there during what I think was probably the Golden Age.

You don't know how far down the shitter. I know some guys who've been at it over 20 years. They never expected to get rich but had a great work-life balance and a couple even managed to settle down with great ladies and buy a home in the 'burbs of Tokyo. As of two years ago they've been struggling to pay the mortgage and wondering where it all went wrong.

BTW, you'd be shocked at how much nicer Seoul and its resident have become over the last few years.

[AssKissinger]

BTW, you'd be shocked at how much nicer Seoul and its resident have become over the last few years.

I believe it. I would love to go back to Korea. I had some amazing experiences there.

[FG Lurker]

I believe it. I would love to go back to Korea. I had some amazing experiences there.

You'd end up hating it as much as you did the first time you were there.

[dimwit]

You don't know how far down the shitter. I know some guys who've been at it over 20 years. They never expected to get rich but had a great work-life balance and a couple even managed to settle down with great ladies and buy a home in the 'burbs of Tokyo. As of two years ago they've been struggling to pay the mortgage and wondering where it all went wrong.

Last year was for me the best year I've ever had in Japan. My income was up 25% and I am essentially teaching as much as I sanely want to teach. My guess is that some people are actually spending their Kodomo Care money on education, and closing of the large scale English schools has really opened up the market. My guess is that your friends are into corporate English or are teaching at college both of which are on the decline.

[AssKissinger]

You'd end up hating it as much as you did the first time you were there.

I enjoyed the place when I wasn't working. If I went back to work I would probably end up in Korean prison. It's a fucking a wonder I made it through the first time with all the shit I did.

dimwit, the difference is you're probably actually a good teacher. My biggest problems were craziness and laziness. A lot of those Nova types are just dumb and sooner or later that just gets old. In my last year of eikaiwa I taught more lessons drunk than sober and I never did a second of preparation, that's the truth. I remember my friend used to prepare his lessons for the week on Sunday and I always thought, what the fuck? Prepare for what- but he still makes a living at it. Has a good gig actually.

[rooboy]

Yeah, Seoul's not bad but my mate who lives in Korea is outta there soon never to go back.

The problem with Korea seems that the most cuntish people live outside Seoul (not including the racist cunts of politicans and the racist newspaper/tv companies in Seoul, and the sexstarved K cunts who follow foreigners around when they go out in their downtime and try to make em lose their jobs by making anonymous calls about them to the police and to their employers for having a normal social life:drool5: ) and the arseholehagwon owners only want fob newbies teaching in Seoul preferably young bimbos who aint ever had any real job in their lives.

According to my mate the floods of unemployed newbies flocking from mostly Yankeeland and Maplesyrupland are driving down wages and conditions like it's what he heard about Korea in the truly horrendous days.

he's a fellow Aussie and to get another job there to get away from his fucked job in a backwater full of inbreds who still stare with mouths open 3 and a quarter years after he started his job in the same place and call him a sonofabitch in Korean when he walks by (and that's only the old bastards and bitches):nice: , he has to get a copy of his original degree 'apostilled' whatever the fuck that is in Oz and yet another criminal record check that is only 3 months old tho he hasn't been out of Korea since 2009 and have that apostilled too. Putting him nearly 200 bucks Oz out of pocket for the privilege.

For fucked jobs that giz around 2,000 Oz bucks before deductions, a crappy room that looks like a box with a toilet and has one window and fuckwit neigbours all night stomping above his head when the pet dogs they shut up in their rooms there aren't howling and barking all night and in the early hours before he's due to go to work. 10 days total holiday in one yr but even then he can't take days off if kids come and K kids go to study after school way more than Japanese kids do. 2 days of sick day but he's never been allowed to take one and that's usual in Korea too.

Korea was never worth it in the 1st place and when they start charging for the shitholes they give for 'free' (my mate says you get taxed on it anyway) and dropping the airfare over there, watch the K version of gaijin flee the scummy place.

If you want to know why I believe my mate and lotsa people I've met going to Korea to visit them about what losers a lot of Koreans are, check out this website. Foreigners in Korea say those attitudes and views are normal there but these little dropkick, voyeuristic, jealous shemale cunts of Korean 1st, 2nd, 3rd generation males writing mostly live OUTSIDE Korea.

Makes everything I've heard and read about the national inferiority complex absolutely believable. Wait til you read the shit about how 'dirty blooded' stheast Asians are destroying the Great Han People - in other words the mixed blood, swimming in the gene pool of Asia Koreans.

Read the General Gossips and Discussions thread first. The little nappy shitter called Consoleman actually lives and works in Australia - I'd love to get the arsewipe deported from my country.

forum. korean sentry .com

[rooboy]

Well I can't edit my fucking post so I'll give the proper address:

forum. korean sentry .com

Looks like these sociopathic, emotionally and sexually crippled arsewipes and bottom feeders need a ninja visit.

[yarichin01]

[rooboy]

Mods - why did you edit the link? That aint safe what you put in there. If it's because it's not a video then cool but to everybody don't click on the damned link. That one's not safe, I'll post it somewhere else.

[Taro Toporific]

Mods - why did you edit the link?.

When linking to crazies like forum. korean [color="Gray"]non[/color]sen[color="Gray"]ce[/color]try .com, 2ch, et al, it is like giving the loonies an invite to troll here on the FG. That is, the crazies follow all their backlinks and D.O.S. anyone who disagrees with them.
By adding http://anonym.to/? when linking to raving "asswhipes" as you call them, it denies them any extra Google Juice(tm) from the backlink. You don't want to help those crazies on forum. korean [color="Gray"]non[/color]sen[color="Gray"]ce[/color]try .com by giving a better GoogleRank with your backlink, did you?

[rooboy]

Ding, lightbulb came on, here comes my thread edits! Thanks taro.