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Postby Mulboyne » Wed Jan 10, 2007 7:38 pm

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I mentioned to Captain Japan that I'd seen a clip a while back which explained that the question of whether the head on a beer is beer had been decided in a Japanese court. I found the video again on YouTube (above). No subtitles.

In 1940, a customer in Ueno complained that the head on his beer was too large. Police investigated the beer hall and concluded that the proprietor was not selling a glass of "beer" as advertised since the head was so large. An expert testified, however, that the alcohol content of the foam was greater than the liquid. In 1944, the court ruled that the head of a beer was also beer.
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Postby Iraira » Wed Jan 10, 2007 9:06 pm

Mulboyne wrote:[YT]76Vzu_35_tc[/YT]

I mentioned to Captain Japan that I'd seen a clip a while back which explained that the question of whether the head on a beer is beer had been decided in a Japanese court I found the video again on YouTube (above). No subtitles.

In 1940, a customer in Ueno complained that the head on his beer was too large. Police investigated the beer hall and concluded that the proprietor was not selling a glass of "beer" as advertised since the head was so large. An expert testified, however, that the alcohol content of the foam was greater than the liquid. In 1944, the court ruled that the head of a beer was also beer.



Dude, I'd like to thank you (I'm serious). That is just the chunk of useless information-"twibia" that is like a 10 metric ton ball of crack to me. I'm completely looking forward to going to work tomorrow and drop this on a few people, make them lug it around with them for the rest of their lives. I'm not joking, I'm not being a sarcastic ass. My day has been made, and several million neurons are now dealing with this frothy new info.
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Postby Captain Japan » Wed Jan 10, 2007 9:46 pm

Mulboyne wrote:[YT]76Vzu_35_tc[/YT]In 1940, a customer in Ueno complained that the head on his beer was too large. Police investigated the beer hall and concluded that the proprietor was not selling a glass of "beer" as advertised since the head was so large. An expert testified, however, that the alcohol content of the foam was greater than the liquid. In 1944, the court ruled that the head of a beer was also beer.

If measuring as a percentage of weight (foam vs. liquid), this claim might be true. But there is no way it could be true as a perentage of volume (foam vs. liquid) given the voids due to air. And that would be the basic beef: I don't want to pay for air.

So to sum this up: it is true then that I have no legal grounds for complaint when my beer cup is 1/3 foam? Is this correct?
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Postby Charles » Thu Jan 11, 2007 1:47 am

Wasn't there a similar thing in England? I recall hearing something about "true pint" regulations that came down on the side of the consumer, limiting the head on beers.
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Postby Mulboyne » Thu Jan 11, 2007 3:56 am

Charles wrote:Wasn't there a similar thing in England? I recall hearing something about "true pint" regulations that came down on the side of the consumer, limiting the head on beers.

From this Wiki:
[quote]United Kingdom law requires certain steps be taken to ensure that a pint of beer is indeed a pint. Though this can be achieved using so-called "metered dispense" (calibrated pumps), the more normal solution is to use certified one-pint glasses. These have a crown stamp and number etched upon them. The number relates to the authority certifying the capacity of the glass. Selling beer in unmeasured glasses without using some other form of calibrated measure is illegal. Half-pint glasses are also available, and are subject to the same laws. UK law currently prescribes that a pint serving of beer must be comprised of at least 95% liquid.

Despite this emphasis on accurately measured glasses, it is common for drinkers to be served less than a full pint of liquid - either because too much of the glass is taken up by a foamy "head", or simply because the customer has been sold a short measure. This allows publicans (who are often under pressure from a management company) to "sell" more beer than is actually in the cask or keg and hence save money. At present, those selling "pints" up to ten percent short will not be prosecuted in the UK.

For those wishing to avoid this practice while still serving beer with a large head, "lined" or "oversized" glasses are available. These have a line near the top (usually labelled "pint to line") to which the beer should be poured, with the head forming above it. In the past a number of breweries supplied these glasses to their pubs]Fights have been known to break out in a pub where the barman is pulling short pints. I remember my father asking one landlord "Could you fit a single whisky into that?" when he got his pint, "Sure," replied the bloke, reaching for a bottle. "Well, if there's room for the whisky then there must be room for more beer. Can you top that up, please?"
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Postby GomiGirl » Thu Jan 11, 2007 4:05 pm

Mulboyne wrote:From this Wiki:
Fights have been known to break out in a pub where the barman is pulling short pints. I remember my father asking one landlord "Could you fit a single whisky into that?" when he got his pint, "Sure," replied the bloke, reaching for a bottle. "Well, if there's room for the whisky then there must be room for more beer. Can you top that up, please?"

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