Tohoku Earthquake, Tsunami and Nuclear Disaster!!!

by **Iraira** » Sat Mar 12, 2011 3:45 pm

Doctor Stop wrote:

Not sure if I've been living here too long, as I can't really tell whether this is a case of "too soon" or not.

by **Tsuru** » Sat Mar 12, 2011 3:45 pm

Taka-Okami wrote:Lets hope the engineers got their calcs right when they designed the reactor!

Should anything make it out, this will be blown out to sea. Wind conditions have been westerly and will be for at least the another week.

by **FG Lurker** » Sat Mar 12, 2011 3:49 pm

chokonen888 wrote:Meltdown...shit, after the initial dip, the yen is going to get stronger with the massive recovery effort.

Every time something happens to fuck up the Japanese economy the yen seems to get stronger and make it worse.

by **Mock Cockpit** » Sat Mar 12, 2011 3:57 pm

FG Lurker wrote:Every time something happens to fuck up the Japanese economy the yen seems to get stronger and make it worse.

Actually as fucked up as it all is in the long term this will probably help economic growth as the sheer scale of the re-building will boost the economy. In the short-term though, who knows? You'd have to expect some sort of earthquake tax/levy.

by **omae mona** » Sat Mar 12, 2011 5:02 pm

Just popped on NHK TV news a moment ago. They're saying that at 4PM witnesses heard the sound of an explosion at the Fukushima #1 nuclear plant, and about 10 minutes later white smoke was seen. There are reports of workers with injuries.

by **matsuki** » Sat Mar 12, 2011 5:13 pm

Tsuru wrote:Should anything make it out, this will be blown out to sea. Wind conditions have been westerly and will be for at least the another week.

Great, now the Koreans will start conspiracy theories on how this was a manmade earthquake designed by the evil Japanese to wipe out Korea.

by **Screwed-down Hairdo** » Sat Mar 12, 2011 5:16 pm

omae mona wrote:Just popped on NHK TV news a moment ago. They're saying that at 4PM witnesses heard the sound of an explosion at the Fukushima #1 nuclear plant, and about 10 minutes later white smoke was seen. There are reports of workers with injuries.

TEPCO has just confirmed the blast, according to NHK's website.

by **Ikemen-of-d00m** » Sat Mar 12, 2011 5:21 pm

OK, this meltdown is kind of freaking me out. Especially since I don't understand everything they say on the news..

Is Chiba-ken relatively safe? Is there some sort of map that shows the areas where it's going to be hell? What the hell are you supposed to do if all this sh*t comes your way? Stay inside and hold your breath?!

by **Kuang_Grade** » Sat Mar 12, 2011 5:23 pm

omae mona wrote:Just popped on NHK TV news a moment ago. They're saying that at 4PM witnesses heard the sound of an explosion at the Fukushima #1 nuclear plant, and about 10 minutes later white smoke was seen. There are reports of workers with injuries.

The US NHK English feed just led off with 'several workers have been injured in an explosion at Fukushima #1 plant". If this goes real bad, you have to wonder how Japan is going to get by without nuclear power plants given they generate 30% of the Japan's electricity

They just showed some photos and the outer building wall of the #1 reactor is down.

by **Tsuru** » Sat Mar 12, 2011 5:24 pm

Video here: http://www.twitvid.com/LICNU

When it was just reported I thought it was just a puff, it looks like most of the building panels were blown off.

by **BigInJapan** » Sat Mar 12, 2011 5:30 pm

Screwed-down Hairdo wrote:TEPCO has just confirmed the blast, according to NHK's website.

On NHK's live broadcast, they are comparing photos taken this morning, and this afternoon showing that one of the buildings (reactors?) has lost it walls as a result of an explosion (not confirmed). Four people were taken to the hospital.
They are also warning people in the area that in the event of a leak of radioactive materials to shut windows, turn off ventilation, and if you have to move around outside to evacuate, cover your mouth/nose with a wet close and try not to breathe the air. Also, if you come back to your house, change your clothes and take a shower ASAP.
A "hyper rescue team" has been sent in, and there will be a press conference at some point later on.
NHK live on Ustream: http://www.ustream.tv/channel/nhk-gtv

by **ketchupkatsu** » Sat Mar 12, 2011 5:33 pm

chokonen888 wrote:Meltdown...shit, after the initial dip, the yen is going to get stronger with the massive recovery effort.

The same thing happened in 1995 after the Kobe earthquake, the Yen gained about 18% following that event. Many economist suspected that it was due to repatriation of the Yen by Japanese companies needing to rebuild and repair.

by **matsuki** » Sat Mar 12, 2011 5:37 pm

ketchupkatsu wrote:The same thing happened in 1995 after the Kobe earthquake, the Yen gained about 18% following that event. Many economist suspected that it was due to repatriation of the Yen by Japanese companies needing to rebuild and repair.

Indeed, gonna fuck up trade even more though...yen is already too strong to be competitive. Oh well, good for me in the short term at least, we're 99% import right now.

by **Kanchou** » Sat Mar 12, 2011 5:37 pm

I basically dodged a bullet where I am in Fukushima. Here the biggest damage was a lack of onigiri and bento at the Seven Eleven.

by **MaxPower** » Sat Mar 12, 2011 5:45 pm

NHK's coverage of the nuclear plant has been horrible. Photos of of the plant before and after while another channel has video of the explosion? Weird.

by **Tsuru** » Sat Mar 12, 2011 5:48 pm

Slightly better quality stream here:

http://www.ustream.tv/channel/foxtokimekitonight

by **matsuki** » Sat Mar 12, 2011 5:48 pm

MaxPower wrote:NHK's coverage of the nuclear plant has been horrible. Photos of of the plant before and after while another channel has video of the explosion? Weird.

....and yet they want to force you to pay for that crap coverage :rolleyes:

by **FG Lurker** » Sat Mar 12, 2011 5:55 pm

ketchupkatsu wrote:The same thing happened in 1995 after the Kobe earthquake, the Yen gained about 18% following that event. Many economist suspected that it was due to repatriation of the Yen by Japanese companies needing to rebuild and repair.

Guess it depends on how the government responds. Hopefully as the yen is so strong already they'll do what they can to limit further gains.

by **FG Lurker** » Sat Mar 12, 2011 5:57 pm

chokonen888 wrote:Indeed, gonna fuck up trade even more though...yen is already too strong to be competitive. Oh well, good for me in the short term at least, we're 99% import right now.

Problem is the scared companies and people don't spend money. If you're importing goods useful for reconstruction then there should be quite a boom. If it's anything else though a big drop in sales wouldn't be surprising.

Regardless, fast movements in exchange rates cause more problems than whatever point the rate itself is at (within some reason of course.)

by **CrankyBastard** » Sat Mar 12, 2011 6:22 pm

Looking at the tv pictures looks like No1 building blew sky high with only skeletal remains.
The shit has hit the fan!:(

by **Coligny** » Sat Mar 12, 2011 6:50 pm

CrankyBastard wrote:Looking at the tv pictures looks like No1 building blew sky high with only skeletal remains.
The shit has hit the fan!:(

TEPCO plubished a major nuclear accident advisory report.
EDF Japan (french power company) is prepping rappatriation of its workforce.

Not a publicly released information.

A bit late to start reading, Cold war era nulcear war prep and survival book (the scientific -a bit dry- kind)

http://www.megaupload.com/?d=VCWML0DC

Winds are 'good' for now... nothing like the Tchernobyl clusterfrack...

stock on fresh vegetables and mushrooms if you like them. Might not going to be available anytime soon.

by **AML** » Sat Mar 12, 2011 6:58 pm

Maybe we should start looking at one way tickets?

by **Samurai_Jerk** » Sat Mar 12, 2011 6:59 pm

Holy crap. They just showed the aftermath of the tsunami in Iwate-ken on Ch. 4. The wave left debris on the 4th floor balconies of a 5 story apartment buidling.

by **CrankyBastard** » Sat Mar 12, 2011 7:00 pm

"EDF-Toshiba-Westinghouse." Looked promising, but might now b time to dump those investments and buy Sanyo.

by **Osakadave** » Sat Mar 12, 2011 7:07 pm

FB friend suggested contacting the embassy or consulate for potassium iodide. Don't know if they'll actually have any or enough if they do.

by **Catoneinutica** » Sat Mar 12, 2011 7:19 pm

MaxPower wrote:NHK's coverage of the nuclear plant has been horrible. Photos of of the plant before and after while another channel has video of the explosion? Weird.

Well, the J-gov't would certainly have an incentive in playing down this catastrophic failure of J-nuke design. Nonetheless, I don't think exports of Japanese reactor technology are going to be booming in the coming years.

by **Coligny** » Sat Mar 12, 2011 7:24 pm

Catoneinutica wrote:Well, the J-gov't would certainly have an incentive in playing down this catastrophic failure of J-nuke design. Nonetheless, I don't think exports of Japanese reactor technology are going to be booming in the coming years.

http://www.iaea.org/press/

From what we know...

The guy planning for earthquake damage did a good job, it's the doofus not protecting the diesel auxiliary power units against tsunami damage in a coastal plant that should be beheaded...

by **AML** » Sat Mar 12, 2011 7:27 pm

I still dont understand how they could let it get this bad (power plant)

What, did they sit down for a group meeting like they always do rather than act?

by **MaxPower** » Sat Mar 12, 2011 7:35 pm

Starting to feel pretty uneasy about this power plant situation.

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