All Gaijin Required to carry IC card

[homesweethome]

I'll superglue mine to my scrote.

Go ahead and even put it where the Sun don't shine, that still won't keep it from 'broadcasting'

[cstaylor]

Does anyone have a link showing that it's a wireless IC card, and not a standard smartcard?

[amdg]

Every foreigner between a 90 day tourist and a "special permanent resident" i.e. not a third generation Korean, will be required to carry the new card.

http://asia.news.yahoo.com/050607/kyodo/d8aiq2502.html

Interesting. I wonder what "special" permanent resident is? Just the Koreans who currently don't have to carry gaijin cards anyway?

Who are the Koreans that don't have to carry gaijin cards? The only ones that don't have to carry gaijin cards are the ones who have managed to obtain Japanese citizenship (= not Korean).

[nullpointer]

I'll superglue mine to my scrote.

Then don't ever complain that the policemen "tried to grab me by my balls"

[FG Lurker]

Who are the Koreans that don't have to carry gaijin cards? The only ones that don't have to carry gaijin cards are the ones who have managed to obtain Japanese citizenship (= not Korean).

Koreans whose families have been in Japan since a certain year (I don't remember what year, but 194x or 195x I think) have special status and do not need to carry gaijin cards.

[amdg]

Who are the Koreans that don't have to carry gaijin cards? The only ones that don't have to carry gaijin cards are the ones who have managed to obtain Japanese citizenship (= not Korean).

Koreans whose families have been in Japan since a certain year (I don't remember what year, but 194x or 195x I think) have special status and do not need to carry gaijin cards.

Seeking clarification here - don't need to 'have', or don't need to 'carry'? Which one do you mean? A friend of mine is third generation (by that I mean his grandparents were abducted from a small island off the coast of Korea and taken to Japan during the war) and he still has to have a gaijin card, and get it renewed just like I do.

[homesweethome]

don't need to 'have', or don't need to 'carry'?

The answer is both according to the Third Generation Korean National Representatives Association.

They have neither the obligation or necessity to carry the card, but still have to get it renewed just like everybody else because they refuse to take Japanese citizenship.
This fact has gotten lost in the static, but these people who were forced to come to Japan to work as slaves during the war, remained after Japan lost.

The problem for them at the time was: What to do? Go back to Korea? Even if they could (no MasterCard online airfare scheduling options)

Sure, go back where they had neither lives nor homes nor families and try to exist as non-persons? Understand, there was no 'Korean Refugee Peace Boat' that existed that was taking forced Korean Nationals back to their homeland sponsored by the Japan Occupation Forces (US, USSR, UK and UN). So really, what were these people supposed to do? What would you do in their situation?

Some managed to survive, marry, have children, and even prosper, despite what the powers that be would have found convenient. The problem came when the Japanese Government, faced with a crisis around 1954 (what to do with these non-Japanese who refuse to leave or take Japanese citizenship. Would you take the citizenship of a nation that forced you into slavery and then conveniently forgot you existed? They said NOThe GovernmentSpeak answer in all it's infinite wisdom was: Create a 'Special Category of Permanent Residents' who will exist as defacto citizens, but who will be limited in their ability to: 1. Vote. 2. Hold Public Office. 3. Work as Public Citizens in the Public Trust. I guess these folks found this acceptable at the time, but the problem was their children. Many married and had kids by Japanese Nationals, who in turn married and had children and so on. What was to become of them? They are not Japanese. They look, smell, act, behave, and fart just like a native, but in fact when they go to try to get a job, marry, borrow from a bank, throw out the trash, their NON JAPANESENESS comes back to haunt them. They get the 'Sorry no Gaijin Needed' response. Remember these are folks just like Soga (who married Jenkins) who didn't have any choice in the matter. They just had to try to make the best of a bad situation.

Mr. Fredricks, why don't you write something of their story?

The answer is: because nobody wants to listen.

[Mulboyne]

If we are still at working team level on this then we may have a bit more time and a few more changes before this goes into law.

Kyodo via Yahoo: Japan eyes tightening control of foreign residents
The Japanese government decided Tuesday to set up a working team to consider ways of tightening its control of foreign residents as an anticrime step. The team will consider such measures as requiring long-stay foreigners in Japan to carry identification cards equipped with integrated circuit chips, government officials said. Envisaged to comprise senior officials from various ministries, the team is expected to come up with specific steps in about a year and present a bill to revise the foreign resident registration law, possibly in the regular Diet session in 2007, one official said.
The ruling Liberal Democratic Party earlier proposed that the government require all foreigners staying in Japan for more than 90 days to carry ID cards with chips recording their identity data. The LDP and the government claim the new policy is aimed at keeping track of foreigners as part of its measures to prevent terrorism and crimes. The working team will also consider easing restrictions on foreign residents such as enabling them to stay longer in Japan, the officials said.

[Blah Pete]

The LDP and the government claim the new policy is aimed at keeping track of foreigners as part of its measures to prevent terrorism and crimes.

Jeezus, why don't they just put us in camps it will be easier.

The working team will also consider easing restrictions on foreign residents such as enabling them to stay longer in Japan, the officials said.

With the welcome wagon they are designing I don't think FGs will want to be able to stay longer.

[homesweethome]

http://asia.news.yahoo.com/050628/kyodo/d8b0l3983.html

The team will consider such measures as requiring long-stay foreigners in Japan to carry identification cards equipped with integrated circuit chips, government officials said.

I still say there is more to this 'integrated circuit chips' thing. I guess we won't know what the things can do until we start hearing stories of how the government knows more than we want them to about each individual gaijin resident. Everything done in the fight against 'CRIME AND TERRORISM' ...BULLSHIT, this is just govspeak buzzwords for public consumption to make certain factions feel better about throwing away their hard earned Yen into the government black hole. This is bad enough but, taking advantage of a subclass of citizens and forcing them to carry government issued 'papers' without which their lives will be impossible, just for political weeny points?

Camps are next....for your PROTECTION

[devicenull]

http://asia.news.yahoo.com/050628/kyodo/d8b0l3983.html

The team will consider such measures as requiring long-stay foreigners in Japan to carry identification cards equipped with integrated circuit chips, government officials said.

I still say there is more to this 'integrated circuit chips' thing. I guess we won't know what the things can do until we start hearing stories of how the government knows more than we want them to about each individual gaijin resident. Everything done in the fight against 'CRIME AND TERRORISM' ...BULLSHIT, this is just govspeak buzzwords for public consumption to make certain factions feel better about throwing away their hard earned Yen into the government black hole. This is bad enough but, taking advantage of a subclass of citizens and forcing them to carry government issued 'papers' without which their lives will be impossible, just for political weeny points?

Camps are next....for your PROTECTION

Sigh, why can't we just bomb them again? I mean, we blew up virtually everything, and they just rebuilt it wih small shitty roads again. The construction companies would love us for it.

[homesweethome]

Devicenull wrote:

why can't we just bomb them again?

I just got a message on the PM from Bush, he and Donald are agreeable, but Condi thinks the Chinese will be pissed cause they want first dibbs at the Japs. She is negociating with them now and will offer them Marunouchi and maybe throw in Yokohama (which has lots of good Chinese restaurants).

[Maths Dude]

They should ony make people from those countries that cause the most trouble carry gaijin cards. Here in OZ noone needs a 'gaijin card', not even students or spouses or whatever. When I think back, I now realize that Japan is one of the most racist countires on earth. Japan can go and get FUCKED.

[amdg]

[amdg]

[drpepper]

Anyone can become a Japanese citizen. I could (not going to though) so why couldn't they? So they may not get to use the easy short form Korean blah blah blah form but anyone who is here legally and geen here for a long time (being born here is a good point too) can get citizenship.

[homesweethome]

[amdg]

[homesweethome]

[homesweethome]

[devicenull]

Devicenull wrote:

why can't we just bomb them again?

I just got a message on the PM from Bush, he and Donald are agreeable, but Condi thinks the Chinese will be pissed cause they want first dibbs at the Japs. She is negociating with them now and will offer them Marunouchi and maybe throw in Yokohama (which has lots of good Chinese restaurants).

Well, they complain about jobs and crowding all the time, some good old fashioned firebomb runs would fix that up.

[Taro Toporific]

Japan enforces IDs on foreigners
Expressindia.com
Tokyo, July 29:"Travellers who are staying in Japan for medium- and long-term periods, please accept free IC cards at the airport and always carry them."
An announcement like this may soon be heard on planes before they land in Japan.
This is because the government and the ruling Liberal Democratic Party are studying the introduction of a new information management system to prevent crimes committed by illegal foreign residents ... more ...

[Greji]

a new information management system to prevent crimes committed by illegal foreign residents

I was just checking the status of this thread when I discovered the reason they have decided to crackdown on FGs. 3Yen has a picture of the new IC card of a notorious furyou known to haunt the Roppongi area. No wonder!

[Big Booger]

Japan enforces IDs on foreigners
Expressindia.com
Tokyo, July 29:"Travellers who are staying in Japan for medium- and long-term periods, please accept free IC cards at the airport and always carry them."
An announcement like this may soon be heard on planes before they land in Japan.
This is because the government and the ruling Liberal Democratic Party are studying the introduction of a new information management system to prevent crimes committed by illegal foreign residents ... more ...

If they are illegal foreign residents... they won't have a card anyway...

[Mulboyne]

If they are illegal foreign residents... they won't have a card anyway...

At least until a couple of years ago - and perhaps even still today - Tokyo ward offices could issue a card to foreigners on short stay visas. The card stated that the holder was not a resident but it looked very similar to the ordinary card and could be used to open a bank account or get a keitai because most bank/shop staff would only check the address, assuming it was a resident card.

A short stay visitor would usually go to ward office, show proof that they were living at an address and ask to register with the ward office. Typically, they would tell the office they were looking for work or helping a sick friend. The ward office was happy to be able to know who was staying in the area although they would not be able to tax the individual.

Virtually all Phillipinos who overstay a short term visa have such a card. It can't be renewed but it allows someone get set up.

[Akito]

The first time I planned to come to Japan I asked the guy working at the Japanese travel agency if I would need to get some kind of registration card and if I had to arrange it before I arrived. He laughed at me and said "No, we're not North Korea"

[Reddeville]

That`s right - Japan is not North Korea. It`s worse because at least we all know what North Korea is and it doesn`t hide the fact it is a one person autocracy.

In Japan you have an authoritarian regime, made up of racist oligarchs, masquerading as a `parliamentary democracy`. Yes, North Korea Japan aint. It`s worse in a fundamental sense because it is more open than North Korea yet has a passive, servile population that is going down the slope of right wing nationalism again. All while justifying it as `We Japanese are unique, we have one ancient culture, we have ancestors who were all Japanese` etc.

Yeah, right, this hybrid Mongol, Korean, Chinese population here who took all their culture from Mongolia, China and Korea and still persist in being culture stealers today (just love those Japanese doing Djembe Drumming looking like pricks in the costumes, and studying foreign languages while being racist about the countries where those languages come from ..) are `unique`. They came out of nowhere.

At least North Koreans have the excuse of being starved and scared into submission for years by the lunatics in North Korea. The Japanese have been enslaving themselves for years, running to their masters and begging for more chains. Serfs.

[homesweethome]

Yes, Reddeville-san!!!

Thank you for your attention to the bored!

I can only speak for myself.

I take this as a very big compliment. To be bored requires higher brain functions which my doctor says I may never recover.

I do this (blog stuff) at his prescription just to try to keep the lower brain functions from deteriorating any further.
FYIN

[progaijin]

http://www.japantimes.co.jp/cgi-bin/getarticle.pl5?fl20051122zg.htm

Found this online. Makes you feel all warm inside, doesn't it?

[Mulboyne]

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