A petition to save the life of an aussie................

[fatslug]

not sure if you guys know but this aussie/vietnamese kid got busted in singpore airport a few yrs back and will face the death penalty............

http://www.australiaunites.net/petition.php

[Big Booger]

[fatslug]

yeah.... i dont know why, but i just feel so sorry for this guyand his family....maybe death penalty is just too much for me to comprehend the sense....

[Big Booger]

I think Singapore should just stick to whipping people with canes. Perhaps 1 lash for every gram smuggled?

[Greji]

I think Singapore should just stick to whipping people with canes. Perhaps 1 lash for every gram smuggled?

Nice thought. But it is heroin and that is the no-no of drugs (as if to the law in Singapore any are good). They are going to stretch this kid's neck. They are going to squeeze the dude's adam's apple until his toes wiggle. The more "well-meaning" citizens try to get involved, the more determined the Singapore government will be to do it.

The only chance he has got is the pressure and intervention that the PM is trying will have an effect with the Singapore government.

They don't see him as a poor Aussie kid of VN extract, they see him as an undesirable dude attempting to bringing in a pound of pure skag that would have been sold on their streets.

My bet is that he does the dance, if the PM can't get through!

[fatslug]

http://www.petitionspot.com/petitions/aussieman

[Greener]

I think Singapore should just stick to whipping people with canes. Perhaps 1 lash for every gram smuggled?

Nice thought. But it is heroin and that is the no-no of drugs (as if to the law in Singapore any are good). They are going to stretch this kid's neck. They are going to squeeze the dude's adam's apple until his toes wiggle. The more "well-meaning" citizens try to get involved, the more determined the Singapore government will be to do it.

The only chance he has got is the pressure and intervention that the PM is trying will have an effect with the Singapore government.

They don't see him as a poor Aussie kid of VN extract, they see him as an undesirable dude attempting to bringing in a pound of pure skag that would have been sold on their streets.

My bet is that he does the dance, if the PM can't get through!

This kid's got it easy, Gary Glitter is facing a date with the firing squad in Nam right now.

[Big Booger]

I think Singapore should just stick to whipping people with canes. Perhaps 1 lash for every gram smuggled?

Nice thought. But it is heroin and that is the no-no of drugs (as if to the law in Singapore any are good). They are going to stretch this kid's neck. They are going to squeeze the dude's adam's apple until his toes wiggle. The more "well-meaning" citizens try to get involved, the more determined the Singapore government will be to do it.

The only chance he has got is the pressure and intervention that the PM is trying will have an effect with the Singapore government.

They don't see him as a poor Aussie kid of VN extract, they see him as an undesirable dude attempting to bringing in a pound of pure skag that would have been sold on their streets.

My bet is that he does the dance, if the PM can't get through!

This kid's got it easy, Gary Glitter is facing a date with the firing squad in Nam right now.

Smuggling drugs is one thing, fucking 12 year old girls in Vietnam is another.. he deserves the firing squad.

[Greener]

Tough call, drug trafficing is a bad thing. As is what Gary did. (Then again, he was busted for extreme amounts of child porn on his computer a few years ago too...)

[ichigo partygirl]

Its a hard call. As much as i feel sorry for the guy and his family, i find it hard to defend someone who did this knowing the consequences if they got caught. I dont agree with death for drug crimes but as someone said before they would just as quick do it to one of their own. Sad case really, another life wasted.

[amdg]

[Papa-Lazarou]

He got cought bang to rights smuggling Herion into Singapore, SINGAPORE!! for fucks sake?

Does someone want to tell me why this is an outrage?

I could not me more oposed to the death penalty, but in a world of injustices this case isnt exactly keeping me up at night

[Mulboyne]

I could not me more oposed to the death penalty, but in a world of injustices this case isnt exactly keeping me up at night

The campaign is not looking to reverse the guilty verdict. Instead, it is asking that the death penalty not be carried out.

[Greener]

I seriously doubt that this guy will live beyond the execution date to be honest. Remember the massive outcry when Michael Fay was caned? (It is said that several million letters poured in to stop this.) Hell, even Clinton tried to have it stopped and when the US President cannot stop a caneing over some graffiti, this kid is swinging from the gallows pole to be sure.

[Pencilslave]

Here's what I don't understand. Correct me if I'm wrong,but Singapore is so strict that you can get fined for spitting out chewing gum.

If that's true I sure as hell wouldn't want to live in a country where they're always trying to think up new ways to fine you or throw you in jail.
I don't get them being hard ass about little stuff.

[hodensaft]

Wow, poor kid is going to hang on Friday. I'm as anti-death penalty as they come, but like people have already said, it's *Singapore* for the love of god. Say a prayer for the guy, that's all you can do.

[Greener]

On a side note, your avatar has a big penis but try finding a pussy that can take it in.

[fatslug]

poor bastard



im following his reports everyday and each day it gets er and er

[Greener]

poor bastard

What? The avatar being unable to find a vagina that can hold him?

Come to think of it, that IS pretty sad...

[FG Lurker]

Yeah, looks like he's gonna swing.

Maybe we should nominate him for a Darwin Award? Taking Heroin into Singapore (even if only in transit) has got to be one of the stupidest things a person could do...

[Greener]

His eyes are going to bulge out like a cartoon character.
He may mess himself in the process. (See the clectric chair seen from the movie Ted Bundy for where this joke comes from.)
His shoes are coming off.
His neck is going bungee jumping.
He's gonna dance with the noosehandler.
They're gonna string him up.
Wasn't Clint Eastwood in a movie where they did this to people?

Out of cliches - for now...

[gekisou]

As a fellow Aussie I beleive he is getting what is deserved, and that the Singaporean Government is right in keeping to their word (unlike so many other governments!)

Imagine how many other people and their families that would be damaged if the drugs did get through?

I saw one show and they were debating about how the death penalty system didnt work. I forget the exact figures on how many etc, but they used America in the example. Their arguement was that America (who had 68 or something people put to death in the last year - higher then singapore) used the death penalty, but there were still many crimes and thus it did not work.

BUT REALLY in Singapore the number of people put to death is higher per capita, and Singapore has less crime because of it. Therefore it works. I work with a lot of Singaporeans (my business partner is Singaporean) and an ex- narcotics cop and he and others said that everyone in Singapore follow the rules as closely as possible, and know the risks.

Sure Singapore is becoming like a dictatorship, but look at how well it has worked for the people? Sheeple need to be shown the way (myself included) If its through Dictatorship or Religion, who cares, it has been shown to work until the dictator/pope gets greedy!

[kurohinge1]

... I beleive he is getting what is deserved, and that the Singaporean Government is right in keeping to their word (unlike so many other governments!)

Imagine how many other people and their families that would be damaged if the drugs did get through? ...

That government is nothing to be admired.

Today Show Editorial

VAN NGUYEN 29 November 2005

... The business about the fate of Van Nguyen reached ridiculous levels yesterday with a stupid suggestion that the Prime Minister should call off the Prime Ministerial XI cricket match in Canberra on Friday because it coincided with the date of the young man's execution.

Others are saying we should boycott trade.

Both propositions border on the ludicrous.

There are two separate issues here.

One is drug running, which makes Van Nguyen neither a hero nor a martyr, but a young man wanting to make a quick quid at the expense of others whose lives would be jeopardised by buying the rubbish he would be selling.

Against that, it need be said that every drug seller would go broke if there wasn't a drug buyer.

So what is happening to the mind set of buyers is almost impossible to fathom.

The drug issue is entirely separate from what can be simply called judicial killing.

It is far too grotesque to describe here what happens when a person is hanged.

But at 6 o'clock on Friday, if this barbarism prevails, a trap door will open and this young man's body will hang until it stops writhing, with all the gruesome ramifications that that has.

It's instructive to note that the Opposition Leader in Singapore, Juan Chee Soon, has been very outspoken about this whole episode and the 400 or more which have preceded it.

As he said recently, "If there is any logic to what the government in Singapore is doing, it is that a drug courier's deed causes, or has the potential to cause, the death of a fellow human being."

Therefore the State has the right to, in return, take the life of the perpetrator.

But as he wrote recently, "If that is the reasoning, why does Singapore continue to allow the sale of cigarettes?"

Nicotine and tobacco are stimulants whose addictive properties have been likened to those of opium and heroin.

Their carcinogenic effects have caused the deaths of millions and caused hundreds of billions of dollars to be spent on health care.

So as the Opposition Leader in Singapore said, "If we don't criminalise the sale of cigarettes, much less hang the producers and sellers of nicotine, why do we execute peddlers of other types of drugs?"

The argument is that drugs are a scourge on society and authorities have a sovereign right to protect their citizens from criminals such as Nguyen.

But as the Singapore Opposition Leader said, "Singapore is the biggest business partner of Burma and the Singapore government invests in projects that involve one Han Lo Hsing, an established Burmese drug lord."

He wrote, "Singapore has been fingered in the laundering of Burma's drug money."

And argues, "While all this goes on, does anyone expect to stop the drug trade by executing a courier such as Nguyen."

As the Opposition Leader wrote, "It doesn't make much sense to keep mopping the floor while leaving the tap running."

He makes the further point that in a democracy, this barbarism would not go on.

But Singapore is not a democracy.

As he wrote, "Elections are anything but free and fair. Our ballot papers are numbered and the Elections Department works out of the Prime Minister's office."

As the Singaporean Opposition Leader wrote, "Nguyen's death, as with the death of hundreds before him, will be in vain if we, in Singapore, don't fight to change this law."

And that is the issue.

It's not even really that this bloke is an Australian.

The civilised world surely must take up arms in 2005 against such barbaric behaviour as hanging.

Punishing the drug runners comes after that.

[fatslug]

it kinda sux when u have kiddy fiddlers and murders (Michael Jackson and OJ simpson) get away with shit like that.......and this guy has to hang till his eyes pop !!!

poor bastard !!!!!!!!!!!!

GOD BLESS !

[Greener]

Well, the countdown is on now in Australia. Amnesty International staged a vigel earlier today as well. The Aussie government gave up yesterday.

On the bright side, at least they aren't going to do to this guy what the Brits did to Braveheart.

[FG Lurker]

One less drug smuggling loser in the world as of a short time ago.

More info on CNN.

[FG Lurker]

CNN only seems to load properly about half the time from this computer. No idea why. Here's another story on the Australian ABC site.

A lot of Aussies seem right upset about this... I really have no idea why! This little slimeball was trying to import 400g of poison into Australia -- something he freely admitted himself. Good riddance.

[oyajikun]

CNN only seems to load properly about half the time from this computer. No idea why

Bit off topic I know,, but,

I had the same problem. I use a Linksys router (WRT54G) and found that once I changed the MTU size from 'auto' to '1452', CNN and other previously slow loading pages, popped right up. Hope this helps!

[cstaylor]

For security reasons a lot of sites won't allow fragmented IP datagrams. Lowering your MTU prevents that from happening.

[oyajikun]

For security reasons a lot of sites won't allow fragmented IP datagrams. Lowering your MTU prevents that from happening.

Cool, thanks for the explanation.