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Postby Greji » Wed Nov 30, 2005 10:41 am

A sad case, but FGs better duck Blinky and friends will be looking for scalps again (or still?)

Peruvian man arrested for killing 7-year-old girl

HIROSHIMA -- A Peruvian man was arrested Wednesday for murdering a 7-year-old girl here and dumping her body in a cardboard box earlier this month, police said.

Carlos Yagi, 30, the suspect, is accused of strangling the first-year elementary school girl on Nov. 22, then placing her body in a cardboard box and abandoning it in a vacant lot in Aki-ku, Hiroshima.

Yagi, who lives in Aki-ku, had emerged as the prime suspect as police investigated residents of the area near where the victim's body was discovered. He lives along a road the victim used to walk along to go school. His apartment is only about 100 meters away from where he body was found.

Local police obtained an arrest warrant for him late Tuesday and placed him on a nationwide wanted list. They took him into custody early Wednesday morning.

Prior to his arrest, the suspect had denied involvement in the incident saying he was away from his neighborhood to look for a job. (Mainichi)


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Postby ichigo partygirl » Wed Nov 30, 2005 11:18 am

That truly makes me sick. What a sick, sick, thing that thing is. I cant even call him a person, because no person could do that.
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Postby skyengines » Wed Nov 30, 2005 12:18 pm

How about we consider him innocent until proven guilty? Do you really think the police aren't just after the most convenient target??
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Postby FG Lurker » Wed Nov 30, 2005 12:23 pm

skyengines wrote:How about we consider him innocent until proven guilty?

I have to say I agree... If he is guilty then he should swing (I'd happily pull the switch), but until it has been proven I don't think we should condemn the guy.
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Postby ichigo partygirl » Wed Nov 30, 2005 12:26 pm

it was more a comment of disgust at whatever did that to that poor child.
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Postby dimwit » Wed Nov 30, 2005 12:45 pm

And just think there is a big ELT meeting in Hiroshima this weekend. I'm sure the locals will give and influx of foreigners the hospitality that Hiroshima its famous for. :lol:
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Postby Mennon » Wed Nov 30, 2005 12:51 pm

Am I wrong or the only evidence they have is that the box is from a gas cooker he bought?

Explain how the box got outside!
I threw it out!

Won't wash in the land of hoarders. Why did you throw out a perfectly good empty box?

Anyway, Gaijin don't kill kids, JAPANESE MEN kill kids.
My judgement: Not guilty. But he will hang.
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Postby Taro Toporific » Wed Nov 30, 2005 1:09 pm

Mennon wrote:Am I wrong or the only evidence they have is that the box is from a gas cooker he bought?


The cop claim that the electical tape used to seal the dead girl in the box matches the tape found in the FG's house in the type/brand/lot of the tape, the tear patterns of the tape and his DNA on the tape. IF that's true, he'll swing.
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Postby cstaylor » Wed Nov 30, 2005 4:36 pm

No, actually not. If that was his box, and it was on the street after he threw it away, his DNA would be on the tape from when he opened the box.

The police are holding some of the details, for example, does anyone know if there were marks of a struggle? If not, perhaps she knew the assailant?
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Postby Greji » Wed Nov 30, 2005 4:39 pm

Taro Toporific wrote:
Mennon wrote:Am I wrong or the only evidence they have is that the box is from a gas cooker he bought?


The cop claim that the electical tape used to seal the dead girl in the box matches the tape found in the FG's house in the type/brand/lot of the tape, the tear patterns of the tape and his DNA on the tape. IF that's true, he'll swing.


He is going to hang, they just have to clear up some of the loose ends like paperwork, trial, etc. Then they hang him. Why mess up a nice open and shut case with something like not guilty?

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Postby cstaylor » Wed Nov 30, 2005 4:41 pm

Reminds me of "In the Heat of the Night". :wink:
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Postby homesweethome » Wed Nov 30, 2005 5:55 pm

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Taro Toporific wrote:
Mennon wrote:Am I wrong or the only evidence they have is that the box is from a gas cooker he bought?


The cop claim that the electical tape used to seal the dead girl in the box matches the tape found in the FG's house in the type/brand/lot of the tape, the tear patterns of the tape and his DNA on the tape. IF that's true, he'll swing.


He is going to hang, they just have to clear up some of the loose ends like paperwork, trial, etc. Then they hang him. Why mess up a nice open and shut case with something like not guilty?

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No, that won't happen. Not guilty really doesn't apply. The police are definately holding things they don't want and can't reveal, or most likely they just don't have enough, at least not yet, evidence gathering is tedious and costly and that's why it has to wait.

The cops have plenty of time on their hands.
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Postby canman » Wed Nov 30, 2005 6:13 pm

This was the headline on the Mainichi page when I opened it.

"Police apprehend record number of foreigners in first half of year"

Here is the link for the rest of the article.
http://mdn.mainichi-msn.co.jp/national/news/20051130p2a00m0na020000c.html
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Postby blackcat » Wed Nov 30, 2005 8:53 pm

poor girl and her family feel very sorry for them.

I hope the cops get it right this time..if hes guilty he deserves what he gets...but that IF is very big in many peoples(japanese excluded)minds because they know Jcops/pollys/media are such a racist bunch of two faced liars.

see what happens when people are racist...corrupts the very process of law.
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Postby Taro Toporific » Thu Dec 01, 2005 11:41 am

[quote=""homesweethome"The cops have plenty of time on their hands.[/quote"]

Sadly the cops now have plenty of time to get a confession. For some reason the cops released his photo (something they don't do very often with Japanese suspects).
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Postby AssKissinger » Thu Dec 01, 2005 1:18 pm

I vaguely remember some controversy about Japan not even using DNA evidence or something like that...

would someone help me with remembering my mind about that?
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Postby Mennon » Thu Dec 01, 2005 1:32 pm

What's going on? I saw something about DNA matches.
Did anyone watch News Station last night? He had a reporter in his house with a hidden camera TWO days after the murder, and they went back there at least twice more with an interpreter. The cops had him pinned from the start and told the media! You could see the poor guy (if he's innocent) slowly realising that he was the prime suspect. No wonder he ran (innocent or guilty).
It really is scary to know that this could happen to any of us anytime. You know, you try to stay out of everyone's way and do the right thing, but as soon as something happens, those old bitches and bums are lined up around the block to tell police and reporters how strange you were.
I just hope he's guilty. The strangling thing isn't the usual Japfreak MO, is it. They likes the stabbin'.
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Postby Taro Toporific » Thu Dec 01, 2005 4:49 pm

Mennon wrote:What's going on? I saw something about DNA matches.


Peruvian suspect's DNA matches that on clothes of murdered schoolgirl
MSN-Mainichi, Dec 1, 2005
HIROSHIMA --
DNA of skin tissue on the clothes of a murdered schoolgirl matches that of arrested Peruvian suspect Juan Carlos Pizarro Yagi, police said.
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Wrapping paper for chocolate, the same type as one found in the cardboard box, was found at his apartment....
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Postby skyengines » Thu Dec 01, 2005 6:06 pm

I'm gonna go out on a limb here and say that I'm doubtful this guy committed this crime. Obviously there's a handful of evidence, including DNA (100% trustworthy in the hands of the generally racist Japanese state?), the box and the chocolate wrappers or whatever, my question regarding the two very obvious pieces of evidence: why would somebody who had a pretty obvious connection to these items dispose of a little girl's body without much effort to hide it (i.e. no burial)?

Is it not more possible that this was committed by someone in the community who had a pretty obvious way to frame the ayashii gaijin?

Sure the M.O. isn't stabbing, but it was strangling with no apparent sexual purpose, just seems bizzarre that some Peruvian immigrant is gonna pull that, dispose of the body in the wide open in a box that has a pretty direct connection to his place?

I dunno, I'm just putting this out there. The press is getting as much racist milage as they can out of the suspect that's for sure.
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Postby FG Lurker » Thu Dec 01, 2005 7:35 pm

I'm not saying the guy did it, but he didn't make it easier on himself by suddenly running from Hiroshima to Mie after telling people (the cops?) that he would be working the next day.

I think there is another thing to consider too: The J-cops don't need to get just anybody to pin this on... They need to catch the actual killer before he does it again. Again, I'm not saying that this guy did do it. I just don't think the "Racist j-pigs arrest first gaijin they see" kinda thing holds water.
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Postby Mulboyne » Thu Dec 01, 2005 7:36 pm

AssKissinger wrote:I vaguely remember some controversy about Japan not even using DNA evidence or something like that...

I think that claim came up before in reference to using DNA evidence to prove that a child had a Japanese father. I don't recall whether we decided the claim was true.
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Postby FG Lurker » Thu Dec 01, 2005 7:53 pm

skyengines wrote:Is it not more possible that this was committed by someone in the community who had a pretty obvious way to frame the ayashii gaijin?

This is bizarre. Are you suggesting that someone wanted Juan Carlos Pizarro Yagi (let's call him Pizarro) out of the way so badly that they killed a 7 year old girl and framed him for it? It'd just be a lot easier (and attract a lot less police attention) to kill Pizarro and maybe make it look like a suicide.

Or are you suggesting that someone might have killed the girl and decided to try to make it look like Pizarro did it...? That is bizarre too. If you want to commit a crime and not get caught for it, you have to make sure you don't leave any evidence, right? So the killer would have had to make sure he left zero of his own evidence, but then go to all the extra work of adding evidence from someone else?? I don't think so...

As I have said before, I am not saying that Pizarro did it. I don't think he should be convicted in the press or by armchair judges. I'm just not a big believer in conspiracy theories.
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Postby cstaylor » Thu Dec 01, 2005 9:20 pm

The best place to look for a perp's DNA on a strangulation victim (if they struggled) is under the fingernals. Skin particles could be on the box from when he owned it. :idea:
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Postby Mennon » Thu Dec 01, 2005 9:47 pm

Yea, there's no chance that it's a conspiracy, but I think getting the media to do the detective work aint no way to run an investigation.
The evidence is dodgy. A box that might have contained the cooker he bought. He said he used it as a bin for a while before throwing it out the morning of the murder. That explains the wrappers, and quite possibly the DNA. He lives near there and talks to children. I'm sure that as FGs, some of the best and most interesting conversations we've had in this country are with people under ten. He would have been a fixture on their travels home from school. Might have even given them candy from time to time.
He says he didn't do it. I believe him. But there's no way we'll ever know, because they're not going to let him go.
If there is some dodgy shit going on, let's just hope there's a whistleblower in the force who will let everyone know what's going on. Unlikely.
If there isn't, and he did do it, then they have balls the size of boulders doing the shit that they did with the media and the locals.
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Postby FG Lurker » Thu Dec 01, 2005 10:00 pm

Now it seems he says he did it...

http://japantoday.com/e/?content=news&cat=&id=357009
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Postby Mennon » Thu Dec 01, 2005 10:05 pm

Just saw on the news. Case solved. "The diablo made me do it."

Ah well. Fuck it. Fry in hell.[/quote]
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Postby skyengines » Thu Dec 01, 2005 10:22 pm

For the record, I didn't suggest a 'conspiracy' but coinciding interests, i.e. somebody that wanted to strangle a child, a convenient gaijin to blame it on then and/or the police force needing a suspect and finding the same convenient gaijin.

El diablo? Sorry, I still don't particularly believe it. This guy was grilled by investigators for the past two days, forced confession is the way the Japanese cops roll.

But I'm not saying he didn't do it. Only that I'm suspicious and hope he could get a fair shake at a trial. Unfortunately in 99% conviction rate Japan, that's impossible.
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Postby cstaylor » Thu Dec 01, 2005 10:22 pm

said the lawyer...

If he confessed, get him in front of a camera so he can say it himself, otherwise it's hearsay.
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Postby AssKissinger » Fri Dec 02, 2005 1:57 am

He confessed... maybe after 30 hours of sleep deprivation and bright lights and damn near torture settings but still I agree with Lurker about this

I just don't think the "Racist j-pigs arrest first gaijin they see" kinda thing holds water.


I don't think Japan functions like that.
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Postby cstaylor » Fri Dec 02, 2005 1:59 am

No, but I do think they take the easy way out... find enough circumstantial evidence, then beat out the confession.
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