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It's... Profitmon!-Fortune Magazine on Anime Biz in USA

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It's... Profitmon!-Fortune Magazine on Anime Biz in USA

Postby Kuang_Grade » Wed Nov 30, 2005 4:58 pm

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Postby Socratesabroad » Wed Nov 30, 2005 7:16 pm

KG wrote:and overall trying too hard to be hip for Fortune's middle age audience


I snickered when I read that: I could just picture Bob, the aging midlevel exec, on the phone to Joel, his investment advisor, wondering, "Now what about getting into this animation/animatronics stuff that my nieces and nephews are always taking about? Is there any money in that?"
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Postby Greener » Thu Dec 01, 2005 12:13 am

How ironic that the "otaku" community is getting real power in the marketplace just as I am losing interest in anime. (Nothing but the same lame genres over and over again without a shred of originality since Lain.) I'm also tired of anime trying too hard to look American and American cartoons trying WAY too hard to look like anime. It's just getting played out.
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Postby Red Floyd » Thu Dec 01, 2005 12:57 am

Is it just me, or does anyone else think trying to package Eva as a mainstream major motion picture for America seems insane?
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Postby Greener » Thu Dec 01, 2005 5:18 pm

More like stupid.

The "otaku" community has always been chalk full of egotistical assholes who think this stuff is "high art". They also expect everyone in the industry to cater to them and them exclusively. No community bitches and moans harder about what commerical releases are like, (dubbing in particular,) yet they have already stolen said titles through downloads and fansubbing and have no right to whine.

Pushing an Evangelion theatrical release YEARS after it's commerical releases shows how big the community's egos have gotten. There is no market for such a theatrical release in America.
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Postby Red Floyd » Fri Dec 02, 2005 3:47 am

I beg to differ, I think that the market is quite high. Since Takashi Murakami's Superflat trillogy, there has been a renewed interest in anime/otaku culture. My gripe with a live action Eva movie is trying to find a way to condense an anime based in Judeo-chrisitan mythology, filled with giant robots, and originaly made as a metaphor for Hideaki Anno's near mental breakdown, into a movie for wide release.


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Postby amdg » Fri Dec 02, 2005 7:04 am

Greener wrote:There is no market for such a theatrical release in America.


You've got to be kidding. With the right advertising, Americans will swallow anything the movie houses decide to slip into their mouths. Just look at War of the Worlds (2005). Charlie and the Chocolate Factory (2005). The Longest Yard (2005).

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Postby Greener » Fri Dec 02, 2005 1:36 pm

Red Floyd wrote:I beg to differ, I think that the market is quite high. Since Takashi Murakami's Superflat trillogy, there has been a renewed interest in anime/otaku culture. My gripe with a live action Eva movie is trying to find a way to condense an anime based in Judeo-chrisitan mythology, filled with giant robots, and originaly made as a metaphor for Hideaki Anno's near mental breakdown, into a movie for wide release.


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Yeah, whatever.

Superflat made no impact, just to the otaku who already stole it via digisubs. As for Evangelion, no chance. They said Mononoke would be huge, it bombed miserably. Even Spirited Away was only a modest success. Do you really believe that clusterfuck that was Evangelion would be anything but a disaster on the screen and at the box office regardless of who's cast?
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Postby Greener » Fri Dec 02, 2005 1:39 pm

amdg wrote:
Greener wrote:There is no market for such a theatrical release in America.


You've got to be kidding. With the right advertising, Americans will swallow anything the movie houses decide to slip into their mouths. Just look at War of the Worlds (2005). Charlie and the Chocolate Factory (2005). The Longest Yard (2005).

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Wrong, you can't market Evangelion properly in America. The series lived off of it's shock value in Japan and marketing didn't matter here. In America there is no way in hell this clusterfuck can ever be marketed properly and would sink like a stone except for the otakus who will simply bitch about it all the way there. (Go back to stealing shows off the net and let the masses enjoy what they wish.)
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Postby plaid_knight » Sun Dec 04, 2005 5:41 am

in Judeo-chrisitan mythology

And (to the average Xtian) very obscure Gnostic mythology such as the Pseudoepigraphica and Apocrypha.

But these days movies don't need to do well in their theatrical run to make up their production costs; anything even moderately good will make money through theatre ticket and dvd sales. That's why we're getting a sequel to Hellboy and why there will probably be more Firefly movies.
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Postby Red Floyd » Sun Dec 04, 2005 10:54 am

Greener wrote:Do you really believe that clusterfuck that was Evangelion would be anything but a disaster on the screen and at the box office regardless of who's cast?


Never underestimate the power of hype.
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Postby Kuang_Grade » Sun Dec 04, 2005 3:21 pm

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Postby Red Floyd » Sun Dec 04, 2005 3:56 pm

There is also the possibility that it may not be condensed to only a single film, but rather aseries, ala Lord of the Rings. But no matter how you cut it, EVA isn't exactly a US cinema friendly anime.
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