Sharon Is Already Dead

[AssKissinger]

They're just keeping his pulse going to give people time to decide what to do.

[503]

One less Jew I guess.....

[Tsuru]

Predictably the palestines are cheering as if he were already dead. Ironically Sharon was on the course of improving relations after Arafat's death, and the takeover of Netanyahu after his own death will likely mean a reversal of the (relatively) progressive path the Israeli government has been walking for the last 6 months or so under his control. Re-entry of the Gaza strip by Jewish settlers? You bet.

The ones laughing in the end will be the fundementalist Jews.

[503]

What did I just say?! One less Jew.....

[Tsuru]

What did I just say?!

I don't care!

[Mulboyne]

Here's an unlikely Japan reference:

Orlando Sentinel: Sharon - Exit of a samurai

...The abrupt end of this larger-than-life samurai...

[maninjapan]

The trouble is I don't think they actually know what to do with themselves anyway - Sharon's whole life has been associated with war or trouble, however, he did do a lot for the peace process until he decided it would be a good idea to build a wall encompassing Israeli and thus taking land from Palesinians, thus encouraging more violence and bloodshed.

The best thing to come out of this would be a new leader who can somehow build on Sharon's legacy; yet, make the whole middle east region a lot more stable.

Funnily enough, whilst I was in England on holiday, the had an advert for Israel about going to visit there on holiday. Trouble is they didn't show the huge wall being built or the Black hawks flying over either, just the bits they "wanted" you to see.

the best solution to solve the problem is give the same amount of money America gives to Israel every year and give the same amount to Palestine and let them fight it out and whoever wins gets to keep the land.

[dimwit]

They're just keeping his pulse going to give people time to decide what to do.

So says Taro Aso. But he might just be refering to his own bid to become the next Prime Minister.

[emperor]

Looks like hes never going to have to face war-crime tribunals...

Qibya & Sabra and Shatila massacre just for starters..

[signalflow]

for the people who never been in israel but they seem to know very much............http://www.adl.org/Israel/israel_attacks.asp just for starter

[maninjapan]

What is that for? Quoting a list of attacks? What are you trying to say?

[emperor]

for the people who never been in israel but they seem to know very much............http://www.adl.org/Israel/israel_attacks.asp just for starter

havent visited Israel yet, dont know ALOT about the conflict, but have read and watched enough news and documentaries to know that the Israeli miltary resipricates for every attack with greater numbers of casualties and deaths which frequently consist of innocents
..and sometimes the accuracy of laser guided missiles or helicopter rockets are blamed when assasinating members of 'terrorist' organisations in their homes or cars and an extra couple people are taken out at the same time - but then youve got those situations when tanks fire on protestors, soldiers fire on children and bulldozers run over peace activists and houses with people still living in them

not for the spread of islam, not an anti-semite - but do think that its bullshit that some zionists think that piece of the world should be exclusive to one religion /judaism

wouldnt shed a tear if the whole region slid into the sea

[emperor]

What is that for? Quoting a list of attacks? What are you trying to say?

I think signalflow is trying to imply that all Palistinians get everything they deserve from the Israeli military/government because some radical elements of Palistinian society shoot and suicide bomb Israeli civilians and soldiers.

[kamome]

dont know ALOT about the conflict

That's for damn sure.

I think signalflow is trying to make the valid points that (1) as you admit, you don't have a clue about what you're talking about and (2) that before you make sweeping generalizations about Israel, its Prime Minister or the entire conflict in that region, you need to understand that Israel is a country under constant attack and has every right to take actions in self-defense. If its citizens are under constant attack, what are they supposed to do, sit back and let it happen? No, the proper response is to meet force with force to show that terrorism is not the avenue to pursue in order to get concessions from the Israeli government.

[emperor]

you don't have a clue about what you're talking about

By saying I dont know ALOT about the conflict does not in fact mean I know NOTHING about it. Im trying to be modest and I know enough to have formed some opinions.

Israel is a country under constant attack and has every right to take actions in self-defense. If its citizens are under constant attack, what are they supposed to do, sit back and let it happen? No, the proper response is to meet force with force to show that terrorism is not the avenue to pursue in order to get concessions from the Israeli government.

of course a country has the right to defend itself, but then youve got the issues of proportional response, who is going to be responded against and how.

- so if the vietcong attacked US soldiers, would it have been right to bomb a village of vietnamese peasants that may contain some vietcong? /napalm
- 2 planes hijacked by mostly Saudis killed 3500 US citizens, the response: 4000-8000 Afghans and 30000 Iraqis killed by in part carpetbombing, clusterbombs etc

The Israelis have killed journalists and peace activists - the Palestinians havent.

[kamome]

The Israelis have killed journalists and peace activists - the Palestinians havent.

Frankly, those activists who inject themselves into the conflict are putting themselves in harm's way and assume the risk of injury or even death if they do stupid things like stand in front of bulldozers carrying out government policy.

And by the way, you conveniently ignore all of the other innocents within Israel's sovereign borders who have been killed by Palestinian homicide bombers. So stop trying to make the Palestinians look like victims here without sin. They have been sponsoring terrorism for years.

[emperor]

[cstaylor]

I can't imagine what the next few months are going to be like if Likud beats Kadima in this upcoming election, and Hamas does as well as expected in the PA elections.

[maninjapan]

I like how now Israel has refused to deal with Palestine now Hamas have a ruling government. It's stupid things like this that casue the friction in the middle east. This is a good chance to embrace the future and work towards a new peaceful fiuture.

I know that Hamas are a terrorist group that want Israel's destruction, but this is from the Israeli point of view. Sit down with them. Have a chat and a few cigars and see what happens. If they still want to destroy you - don't worry your best friend America will help you with a few more black hawks.

[kamome]

I like how now Israel has refused to deal with Palestine now Hamas have a ruling government. It's stupid things like this that casue the friction in the middle east. This is a good chance to embrace the future and work towards a new peaceful fiuture.

I know that Hamas are a terrorist group that want Israel's destruction, but this is from the Israeli point of view. Sit down with them. Have a chat and a few cigars and see what happens. If they still want to destroy you - don't worry your best friend America will help you with a few more black hawks.

If al Quaida took power in a country on your doorstep, would you feel like sitting down and having a few cigars with them?

[cstaylor]

I think I should quit my day job and start forcasting political events.

[Tsuru]

He is suffering complications to his digestive system and although the BBC is reluctant to report this, Dutch news sources quote one of the surgeons as saying the chances of him surviving surgery are very slim.

http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/middle_east/4703344.stm

[maninjapan]

Wow - its amazing how much things change in a month. Come on everyone must have known this was going to happen after last month.

[Tsuru]

It seems I was wrong

[maninjapan]

It seems I was wrong

Give it a few days.

[Buraku]

Looks like hes never going to have to face war-crime tribunals...

Qibya & Sabra and Shatila massacre just for starters..

what a Israeli scumbag

the other guy, the Arab fucker is already dead
http://www.fuckedgaijin.com/forums/showthread.php?t=9246

Ariel Sharon is expected to undergo another surgey next week for re-attaching the part of his skull that was earlier removed.
http://www.ibnlive.com/article.php?id=7634§ion_id=2
A part of Sharon's skull had been removed in a series of operations, as it had become narcotic.

[emperor]

Frankly, those activists who inject themselves into the conflict are putting themselves in harm's way and assume the risk of injury or even death if they do stupid things like stand in front of bulldozers carrying out government policy.

Film-maker 'murdered' by soldier
A British cameraman shot dead in the Gaza Strip by an Israeli soldier was murdered, an inquest jury has decided. James Miller, 34, from Devon, was shot by a soldier from the Israeli Defence Force (IDF) while making a film in a Palestinian refugee camp in 2003.
An Israeli investigation in April 2005 cleared a soldier of misusing firearms.
Coroner Andrew Reid had told the jury at St Pancras Coroner's Court, London, on Thursday to return a verdict of unlawful killing.
He said they had to decide in the context of the case whether he had been murdered or was a victim of manslaughter.

Israel has been uncooperative with the Metropolitan PoliceDet Insp Robert Anderson

After around an hour of deliberation, the jury decided that Mr Miller had been deliberately shot on the night of 2 May 2003.
A jury spokeswoman said: "We, the jury, unanimously agree this was an unlawful shooting with the intention of killing Mr James Miller.
"Therefore we can come to no other conclusion than that Mr Miller was indeed murdered."
Palestinian children
The spokeswoman added: "It is a fact that from day one of this inquest the Israeli authorities have not been forthcoming in the investigation into the circumstances surrounding Mr Miller's death."
Mr Miller, originally from Haverfordwest, Pembrokeshire, was making a film about Palestinian children in the Rafah refugee camp at the time.
He was trying to ask the soldiers if it was safe to leave the area when he was fatally wounded in the neck.
Metropolitan Police Det Insp Robert Anderson told the inquest on Thursday that Israel had been "uncooperative" during their own investigations into the shooting.
Access denied
Mr Anderson said he had asked to visit Israel to interview soldiers concerned and other witnesses.
But, he said: "Israel has been uncooperative with the Metropolitan Police in that they haven't allowed us access to interview soldiers and witnesses."
He said the Metropolitan Police investigation had to see witnesses who had already been interviewed by the IDF, such as reporter Saira Shah, and rely on reports from the pathologist and ballistic experts.
Mr Anderson said his investigation, based on the available evidence, had found there was no evidence either that the dead man had posed a threat to the IDF at the time of the shooting, or that there had been any Palestinian fire directed at the soldiers' position.
Dr Reid concluded the hearing saying he intended to write to the Attorney General to seek to prevent similar deaths occurring.

[Buraku]

not for the spread of islam, not an anti-semite - but do think that its bullshit that some zionists think that piece of the world should be exclusive to one religion /judaism

wouldnt shed a tear if the whole region slid into the sea

Rice's Mission Marred by Israeli Attack
http://www.journaltimes.com/articles/2006/07/30/ap/headlines/d8j6gpc80.txt
Rice's meeting with Lebanon's prime minister was scrapped at the last minute, and the airstrike led her to plan a Monday return to Washington to work on a political solution.

[Buraku]

Japan Self-Defense Force plane carrying Japanese and South Koreans from Israel arrives in Tokyo

https://www.japantimes.co.jp/news/2023/ ... vacuation/

Israel releases 'hostage manual' found on bodies of Hamas fighters

https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/articl ... unmen.html

Britbongistan a Palestine march in Leeds, some idiots violently clashed each other and with a few middle aged Englishmen join in, some guys square up and start throwing punches, a browned tanned woman starts punching, one British guy shouting 'Its Our Fucking Place, Fuck Off' then a Dyke Lesbo heavyset White savior Gauche caviar White 'Baizuo' woman with blue hair joins in.

https://twitter.com/cooomber/status/1715749646381854877

at the beginning of the vid some guy seems to be using a pole or flag as a melee weapon