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private students a viable option?

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private students a viable option?

Postby Dopefish » Wed Mar 01, 2006 4:10 pm

Hi
I am now living in Osaka and realising that within a month or so I will need to start getting some form of income in.

I am currently planning the best course of action.

At the moment I am here on a working holiday visa and I do not have a bachelors degree.

I have tutored my friends in english before, but that was specifically aimed that their school work and essays not english in general.

Anyway, I was wondering if you have any reccomendations on which schools i could apply to if need be. Also, if private lessons are a good option, what kind of fee would be appropriate?

As for teaching materials, are there any you reccomend? I was planning on using my girlfriend as a teaching guinea pig to practice a little bit before starting on paying students.

btw, I am Australian so 6month + 2x6month extensions of my visa. 21 years old, white, english/australian citizenship if that matters....
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Postby Charles » Wed Mar 01, 2006 5:28 pm

Dopefish wrote:As for teaching materials, are there any you reccomend?

Maybe a spell checker?

Time to go home, ozzie.
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Postby Greji » Wed Mar 01, 2006 5:42 pm

Charles wrote:Maybe a spell checker?

Time to go home, ozzie.


Charles, for Christ sakes, he just got into town. Lighten up and give him some slack. Surely, you can hold your distain for everything OZ down for just a little. Just because you got PNG'd from J-land for molesting a wallaby, doesn't mean everyone from OZ has to be put down in the wonderful world of WA.
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Postby ichigo partygirl » Wed Mar 01, 2006 6:12 pm

Try get some work through an english convo school which has one on one lessons. If you are lucky you will get students through students. Who you know is the most important thing - My best paying jobs have all been given to me or offered to me by people who know people. I think teaching private students isnt such a safe way to sustain a steady income. Although the pay is great, if they cancel you lose your money and you dont have a contract so there aint anything you can do. I would recommend getting a part time job that has pay you can rely on and teaching private students
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Postby AssKissinger » Wed Mar 01, 2006 9:48 pm

How do you plan on keeping your visa anyway? It takes time to build up a base of privates. I'd answer every ad you can find and do any work you can get if you're about to run out of dough but you know that. About rates and materials...

Private- 3,500 1 hour
Group- 2,000 per student, five max two min, 1 hour
Make them pay one month in advance
For adults use the Interchange books
Kids use The Let's Go Series

If you can afford it and have long term plans buy two copies of the Interchange books Intro - Three and same for the Let's Go Books 1-4 then get some matching cards, uno cards, crazy 8 cards, a bingo game and flash cards for the kids. If you can't afford to invest that much just get the cards for the kids and two copies of Interchange 2. You use one and the student uses one during the lesson but you don't give it to the student. If you're too poor to invest more, just give a little verbal 'test' to every adult you teach and then tell them they are at the Interchange 2 level (intermediate).

All this stuff can be found at any big bookstore.
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Postby Dopefish » Wed Mar 01, 2006 11:09 pm

Charles wrote:Maybe a spell checker?

Time to go home, ozzie.


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Postby ichigo partygirl » Thu Mar 02, 2006 1:38 am

Dopefish wrote:Hi
I am now living in Osaka and realising that within a month or so I will need to start getting some form of income in.

I am currently planning the best course of action.

At the moment I am here on a working holiday visa and I do not have a bachelors degree.

I have tutored my friends in english before, but that was specifically aimed that their school work and essays not english in general.

Anyway, I was wondering if you have any reccomendations on which schools i could apply to if need be. Also, if private lessons are a good option, what kind of fee would be appropriate?

As for teaching materials, are there any you reccomend? I was planning on using my girlfriend as a teaching guinea pig to practice a little bit before starting on paying students.

btw, I am Australian so 6month + 2x6month extensions of my visa. 21 years old, white, english/australian citizenship if that matters....


I am confused. Are you English or Australian??????
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Postby Charles » Thu Mar 02, 2006 2:59 am

ichigo partygirl wrote:I am confused. Are you English or Australian??????

Ah, now you see the usefulness of dual passports, you can always claim to be the nationality that is least ridiculed.

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Postby ichigo partygirl » Thu Mar 02, 2006 3:01 am

Its also the usefulness of hair dye :P
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Postby AssKissinger » Thu Mar 02, 2006 8:45 am

Dopefish wrote:I'm english you fucking cunt.


I take all that time to write that up and all you wanna do is flame with dickhead, whatever. That's why it's so pointless dealing with newbs.
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Postby Greji » Thu Mar 02, 2006 9:43 am

AssKissinger wrote:I take all that time to write that up and all you wanna do is flame with dickhead, whatever. That's why it's so pointless dealing with newbs.


I'm sure he appreciated your very good post AK, but Charles's posts can sometimes cry for a reply, or maybe just a could old butt shot!
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Postby Dopefish » Thu Mar 02, 2006 10:20 am

I've prepaid my apartment for 12 months and I have about 250,000yen to last until i get a job. (all i need to buy with that is food, water, toilet rolls etc)
Thanks for the book advice. I will check out some book stores / amazon soon.

Sorry for my outburst I am a little bit stressed out trying to get everything organised.
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Postby AssKissinger » Thu Mar 02, 2006 10:52 am

Dopefish wrote:I've prepaid my apartment for 12 months and I have about 250,000yen to last until i get a job. (all i need to buy with that is food, water, toilet rolls etc)
Thanks for the book advice. I will check out some book stores / amazon soon.

Sorry for my outburst I am a little bit stressed out trying to get everything organised.


If you get booted from the country for a visa violation that 12 months prepaid apartment is going to be the worst investment you ever made.
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It helped me, Thanks AK!

Postby 503 » Thu Mar 02, 2006 11:32 am

AssKissinger wrote:I take all that time to write that up and all you wanna do is flame with dickhead, whatever. That's why it's so pointless dealing with newbs.


It helped me Thanks AK!
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Postby Charles » Thu Mar 02, 2006 12:34 pm

Dopefish wrote:I've prepaid my apartment for 12 months...

Uh-oh.
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Postby Dopefish » Thu Mar 02, 2006 5:03 pm

LOL
You guys are funny.

It's all fine as I am here primarily to holiday but I wanted a place for my GF to live as well. I will of course abide by the VISA regulations but she can continue living here when i am travelling, as I am such a nice guy. :inlove:
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Postby GomiGirl » Thu Mar 02, 2006 5:19 pm

AssKissinger wrote:How do you plan on keeping your visa anyway?


He has a working holiday visa I think which means he doesn't need to have a particular job as such - actually they prefer it if you have changed jobs and cites a few times and just make enough money to support yourself.

So when it is time for renewal, just show your tax statements to show you have been working at 1 or more jobs and tell them where you plan to spend the next 6 months (preferably not in the same city).

Jobs you are not able to do or risk losing your visa is bar work. English teaching is encouraged but with private students or cash jobs you will not get a tax statement and so cannot prove that you are supporting yourself legally - ie paying tax to government.

Other good jobs while on a working holiday visa is golf caddy (used to be very lucrative for FG's in the 80's) or ski instructor/towie at ski fields. Hell even as an arubaito at a combini is great. Your employer doens't need to sponsor you just provide you with tax statements at the end of your contract to show how much earned, tax paid, NHI and/or pension. After you leave you can ask for your pension payments to be refunded.

This visa is only open to countries that offer reciprocal visas such as UK, certain European countries, Canada, Australia and NZ. Not available to US citizens. It is also a quota system - so if lots of Japanese people are entering your country on this visa you have a better chance of getting one as long as you don't have a criminal record or two heads. No degree is required and only available until the age of 30.

Here endeth the lesson.
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Postby Dopefish » Thu Mar 02, 2006 5:40 pm

Yeah, It's very easy to get for Australian citizens.

10000'ish Japanese go to Australia on a working holiday every year and only around 1500 Australians visit Japan on the WHV.

This is why they allow Australians a second renewal and removed the max working hours etc. :cool:
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Postby GomiGirl » Thu Mar 02, 2006 5:51 pm

the irony is though that most of the Japanese kids who go to Australia do not work - most have saved enough cash for the entire year and after they have finished the obligatory 6 weeks intensive English course and homestay, buy a car and drive around the country, living in the HUGE network of share houses that is known along the grapevine as Japanese friendly.
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