Japanese women surveys?

[puargs]

I'm doing a short research project on the differences between Japanese and American women... anyone seen any (legitimate, not Mainichi WaiWai) surveys of interest that compare the two (or just from one country, that I could easily find the other country's counterpart)? I know you all have to have seen some good ones.

[FG Lurker]

I've "surveyed" a fair number of women in my time, I'm sure others here have too. I guess that isn't quite the data you're looking for though.

[Ketou]

[quote="FG Lurker"]I've "surveyed" a fair number of women in my time, I'm sure others here have too. I guess that isn't quite the data you're looking for though. ]

I'm not sure he meant topographical ones!

[amdg]

I'm doing a short research project on the differences between Japanese and American women... anyone seen any (legitimate, not Mainichi WaiWai) surveys of interest that compare the two (or just from one country, that I could easily find the other country's counterpart)? I know you all have to have seen some good ones.

Two words - 'sideways vaginas'

[GomiGirl]

why on earth are you doing such a stupid research project?

[Mulboyne]

Unilever conducted a 10 country survey of women for their Dove Campaign for Real Beauty. FG Thread here. Unilever white paper PDF here.

The National Institute of Population and Social Study Research has some free online data. Check under the "Population" and "Social Security" links.

If you google around, you can come across surveys in Japan on mobile phone usage, attitudes to sex (first experiences etc.), Valentine's Day present budgets, relationship with mother-in-law, participation in the workplace, exam performance, etc. Some of these may have counterparts you can dig out for the US.

[kurohinge1]

I'm doing a short research project on the differences between Japanese and American women...

That's very brave of you to admit that you're only qualified for short research into such ladies.

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[puargs]

Well, I just finished my draft write-up anyway, and it's not as stupid as it seems, GG. There were a few interesting tidbits in there, like how 56.2% of men in Japan are "happy", while 62.9% of women are. By contrast, in America, both men and women rated at an almost exact amount- 84% in each category said they were "happy".

There's also some huge discrepancies in weird shit like 42% of Japanese women believe that an extramarital love affair is acceptable under certain circumstances, while less than 11% of American women believe so.

Nevermind the typical FG responses I got, my initial hopes were that someone might respond with an interesting survey they came across.

As for the subject matter, I'm a male in my 20's. What else am I possibly thinking about besides women?

BTW - thanks for the links Mulb!!!

[amdg]

That's very brave of you to admit that you're only qualified for short research into such ladies.

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What's the rule then? European skanks hang out on beaches, American skanks hang out on benches. I'll have to keep that in mind next time I go skank hunting.

[Charles]

Well, I just finished my draft write-up anyway, and it's not as stupid as it seems, GG. There were a few interesting tidbits in there, like how 56.2% of men in Japan are "happy", while 62.9% of women are. By contrast, in America, both men and women rated at an almost exact amount- 84% in each category said they were "happy".

That sounds like info straight from the annual Government White Papers, there used to be a big shelf full of those reports up on the 6th floor office in Phillips Hall, big A4 paperback books about 2 inches thick. I translated one report extensively for a big project back in the day. I remember one statistical conclusion that was quite interesting, both men and women, but more women, reported higher levels of happiness the more they lived "traditional" Japanese lifestyles (salariman dad, stay at home mom). The White Papers lead me to the conclusion that Japan is still a matriarchy and the men are getting the short end of the stick.

Anyway, if it's not too late, you might like the site What Japan Thinks, which is devoted to translating surveys, and has put up quite a few surveys of various women's subjects.

[Charles]

[cstaylor]

Two words - 'sideways vaginas'

Can anybody clue me in to where this idea came from? I've heard it in conversation before, usually from people with very little exposure to asians.

[Ketou]

Can anybody clue me in to where this idea came from? I've heard it in conversation before, usually from people with very little exposure to asians.

I assumed it had something to do with being similar to their eyes.
Damn stupid in any case.

[kamome]

I thought it had to do with porn mags featuring one Asian girl that actually had a sideways vagina as a result of a genetic defect, which spawned the stereotype for all Asian women.

[puargs]

Charles- Thanks for the site and the moral support dude, lord knows I need it sometimes here, hahahaha. Actually yeah, most of the surveys I did look at do support exactly what you saw before- Japanese women do claim to be happier the more traditional a lifestyle they lead. Who knows how loaded the surveys are, or how loaded the women who take them are, but that seems to be the trend. Really weird.

[Charles]

Charles- Thanks for the site and the moral support dude, lord knows I need it sometimes here, hahahaha. Actually yeah, most of the surveys I did look at do support exactly what you saw before- Japanese women do claim to be happier the more traditional a lifestyle they lead. Who knows how loaded the surveys are, or how loaded the women who take them are, but that seems to be the trend. Really weird.

Consider that these surveys tend to be post-bubble. Female employment went way up during the bubble, but then it went back down to "normal" when the bubble popped. So the women who dared to try for a career (the non-traditional lifestyle) tended to suffer from the downturn more than the traditionalist housewives.

You can probably tell I had far too much of this stuff hammered into me during my classroom years.

[kamome]

Charles- Thanks for the site and the moral support dude, lord knows I need it sometimes here, hahahaha. Actually yeah, most of the surveys I did look at do support exactly what you saw before- Japanese women do claim to be happier the more traditional a lifestyle they lead. Who knows how loaded the surveys are, or how loaded the women who take them are, but that seems to be the trend. Really weird.

What school do you go to?

[jingai]

Consider that these surveys tend to be post-bubble. Female employment went way up during the bubble, but then it went back down to "normal" when the bubble popped. So the women who dared to try for a career (the non-traditional lifestyle) tended to suffer from the downturn more than the traditionalist housewives.

You can probably tell I had far too much of this stuff hammered into me during my classroom years.

Kind of like blacks in America. Last hired, first fired. It probably also has to do with expectations- these women went to college, expected to have a real career and not bump into a glass ceiling or have to choose between work and family, and then were disappointed when they found out it wasn't going to work out for them. Hopefully things are changing for the better.

[puargs]

Kamome- UIowa. I'm going back to Japan in August to graduate from Nanzan, though.

[GomiGirl]

[Charles]

This post was even more stupid than the survey topic...

Why do I think it is stupid? People tend to use these stats to think they "KNOW" what another person is like before they meet them.. eg, a STEREOTYPE and that is ignorant to prejudge anybody based on age, gender, religion, nationality etc.. and we all know what idiots who think in stereotypes are like.. don't we Charles???

Why do you think I fight stereotypes with stereotypes? You yourself have criticized your fellow countrymen for their bigotry. Didn't it ever occur to you that my little ozzie bashing is just a way to show them what it's like to be on the RECEIVING end for once? Don't like it? GOOD. That's the point.

In any case, I am well familiar with this sort of assignment, having had more of them than I care to recall. I remember once I was assigned to write a withering cultural critique of Japan, I absolutely refused, and firmly stated that I had never been to Japan (yet) and what the hell could I possibly know about it? And besides, it wasn't my place to criticize Japan as a student of Japan, I was barely a second-hand observer through books and articles, not a participant, and I had no personal stake in the matter, how could my personal opinion (if I even had one) possibly matter?
But that didn't make any difference. The department head is a statistics freak and requires students to be able to analyze statistics and draw sweeping conclusions from surveys. This is just one of the problems in the department. The school is focused on nihonjin grad students who are learning how to teach Japanese, which radically affects the things the beginning Japanese students learn. I learned far more Japanese linguistics terminology than any student ought to be expected to know, and far too little practical language. This would be great if I wanted to be a translator of linguistics books, but I don't.

[puargs]

GG, nice flame. You're exactly right, it is indeed too broad a topic. The purpose and conclusion of MY research project was to prove that there is no discernible difference between women of any type, because the types themselves are not discernible. Women are women, and the differences between them don't easily fit into castes. Please don't immediately jump to conclusions.

The surveys prove certain trends in broad categories. Criticizing from whom/how the surveys were conducted is the only valid criticism- the numbers of the SURVEYED GROUP don't lie. They're not pulling the numbers out of their asses, they're providing detailed, accurate reports of all questions answered. What it PROVES is up to the reader, and my opinion is clear; but you can't criticize the people simply trying to provide or research the data. I don't believe Charles is claiming to know anything about real women in all honesty, rather that he knows figures and research based on the subject which was shoved down his throat in school. A big feminist debacle isn't what he was shooting for, even if he says things some might consider in poor taste ;D

Shit, I just wanted some surveys!

[amdg]

Why do you think I fight stereotypes with stereotypes? You yourself have criticized your fellow countrymen for their bigotry. Didn't it ever occur to you that my little ozzie bashing is just a way to show them what it's like to be on the RECEIVING end for once? Don't like it? GOOD. That's the point.

Yes, if any country in the world needs a dressing down because of the outright bigotry they exhibit, then it’s us Australians, because we’ve just got such a strong culture of warring against people of other colours, other religions and other nationalities. You could even say that, over the years, our nation has had a definite tendency to create a great political schism within its own body of people, based purely on religious beliefs.

Luckily though, you, as an American, have told us Australians what it’s like to be on the “RECEIVING end for once”. I can tell from the ‘sotto voce’ emotion of your posts that you, as an individual, have been on the ‘receiving end’ more than once (I don't 'necessarily' mean that in an anal penetration sense) so I’ll take your word for it when you tell me how painful and humiliating it is. I’ll definitely try to avoid that path of bigotry, based on your advice.

Bigotry, as your country’s gold-embossed and substandard Webster’s dictionary will tell you, is ‘intolerance’. And Americans have championed the war on intolerance ever since they let black men and women be equals; just think about it – America created a unique place in the world where black men and black women can be equal to one another. It’s a miracle and God be praised.

[kamome]

[cstaylor]

Your indignance against Charles's bizarre anti-Australian rants is well-placed, but don't make the mistake of thinking he speaks for all Americans.

When I read posts like amdg's, all I get is "seppo.... blah blah blah". When it comes to racial tolerance, Australia is not the first country that pops into my head.

[amdg]

Your indignance against Charles's bizarre anti-Australian rants is well-placed, but don't make the mistake of thinking he speaks for all Americans.

I don't of course. I've been to America several times - if only for short visits. I found most people there to be very hospitable. I doubt Charles has spent much time in Australia.

[amdg]

When I read posts like amdg's, all I get is "seppo.... blah blah blah". When it comes to racial tolerance, Australia is not the first country that pops into my head.

So what is the first country to pop into your head?

[cstaylor]

Canada.

[amdg]

Your choice of Canada as a role model is not bad.

[kamome]

Brazil comes to my mind. Their society is not so divided along racial lines.