Graffitti

[Taro Toporific]

Is there any difference between the spray cans in japan and the us? specifically, the place you insert graffitti caps...

whats the deal if u get caught graff'n? im guessing i could outrun them and theres a billion small strees to hide in...

The Japanese spray can I'm looking at right now seems to be the same. I never thought about it before but German cans where the same as US ones too. Odd.

As far as the cops go, they ain't gonna chase you. As long as you don't tag your own 'hood, just ignore them and run. Tokyo is so concrete butt-ugly that graff'n can only improve the place.

Check these places...
http://www.medianetjapan.com/town/drama_art/flix/page1.htm
http://www.gate39.com/driverseat/rakugaki.aspx

[ramchop]

Tokyo is so concrete butt-ugly that graff'n can only improve the place.

Yes plenty of grey canvas for you to be creative on. So please try to be interesting (tags can be so boring). And with all that concrete there's no need to vandalise children's playgrounds or trees.

[shit I feel old saying that!]

[GomiGirl]

Agree about all of the concrete jungle commnets.. but please make it interesting and artisitic!!

I have seen some sensational graffitti art in cities around the world but I loathe the monotonous tagging every 10 yards of anything that is not moving.. it is sooooooo boring.

Also, people's homes should be off-limits as well... but anything in the public domain.. go forth and beautify!!

[Taro Toporific]

whats the deal if u get caught graff'n? im guessing i could outrun them and theres a billion small strees to hide in...

No place to hide!

Via Fark...

Graffiti Space Trap Tested
Satellites and super-sensitive sensors are now tuned to the sibilant hiss of spray cans in a space-age effort to eradicate one of the oldest and most persistent urban problems -- graffiti.
TaggerTrap, a graffiti eradication system being tested... uses global positioning system technology, cell phones and sensors that recognize the ultrasonic pitch of spray cans to alert police when vandals begin their work....

[bluepxl]

yo what's your tag? scenik? i'll have to look out for your work...

[Taro Toporific]

thats true.. german cans are exactly the sme as the US ones.. hope japanese are too. is there anywhere to buy caps in tokyo?

Spray paint has NO resrictions for purchases in Japan. Just go to any of the 2,000+ AutoBacsstores and buy what you need for a fair-for-Japan price. Higher priced but VERY artsy-fartsy is Tokyu Hands which openly markets Graffiti materals for "professionals" including caps (if you're really good and look the part, you can find work here spraying clubs, record stores, etc.)

Actually, "appropriating" paint in Japan is just too damn easy, so it ain't any fun ... and Caps, you can steal them from Japanese air fresheners, insecticide, WD-40 and other aerosol cans.


Here's a good tag to start with...

Police chief red-faced after spray paint attack
OSAKA -- Two men sprayed a high-ranking police bureaucrat in the face with red paint as he arrived home Thursday evening, police said Friday.
At around 6:50 p.m., a department manager at the Kinki Regional Police Bureau was about to enter his official residence in the Nishitenma district of Kita-ku, Osaka, when two men suddenly sprang from the entrance, investigators said.
The pair sprayed red paint in his face before fleeing the scene. (Mainichi Shimbun, Oct. 25, 2002)

[Big Booger]

I like subway and train graffiti..
spray em up.. tag em to hell's end. hehehe
BB

[bluepxl]

ya i dunno what i'd do someday when i get married and esp have kids... i'm sure whoever i find is not gonna want me out @ night taggin up the streets when i should be @ home... hehehehe

[Taro Toporific]

there are different types of caps for those of u who dont know.. new york thins for example.. very thin spray. anyways, ill get caps here cus i can get 4 for a dollar..

Yeah, that's got to be cheaper than 1,000yen for 4 caps at Tokyu Hands.

as for paint..:P i cant take it on the plane. any other ideas? how much does a can cost at auto bacs? ive never looked for it there.. probably like 1500yen :P they have any rusto or krylon?

Yep, rusto, krylon, et al are available. The major brand is "Gunze" but it be pricey.

"Somebody" tagged my boring white company Nissan "Sunny" with Krylon Blaze Orange with sort of flames-o-puke for 1,880yen

and are there any legal walls i can hit during the day?

In my 'hood, Sakuragicho, you can paint all ya want---the Yokomhama city government wants you! See J-trucker, Mike Cash's Driverseat site: http://www.gate39.com/driverseat/rakugaki.aspx

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FYI
Japanese using US and German caps
http://www.dragongraff.com/shop/shop.html

Crews and their Walls:
http://www.dragongraff.com/
http://www.utp-net.com/

[Taro Toporific]

thanks taro!

whats the graff ettiquite (sp?) in japan? dont need the bosozoku or some shit TRYING to break my legs

Street Etiquette is much the same as the States but much more mellow...

RESPECT GOOD GRAFF!
Don't overpaint somebody's mega-yen, 40-layer art! Especially --hint hint-- the pro-looking stencils in Sakuragicho, my 'hood.



Common-sense Etiquette---> Stay low profile. Don't litter, or trash too much. Open drinking is cool, 'huffing less so, openly tokin' taima is askin' for a world-o-hurt.

Crews hang together here with LOTS of babes. Don't be shy... just speak graff to them. The Bozozoku are whimps and are toy-terrible at graffing: ignore them.

BTW: Bring plenty of red spray on your forays to correct the spelling around here...

[Torigaa Fenikkusu]

reminds me of a video game called Jet Set Radio where you play the role of a teens in future japan who tag their part of tokyo, keep rivals out of their territory, and avoid the evil police chief who is out to get taggers (often sending in riot police, and the army) but you can run away in your "jet skates" and you listen to some kind of teen revolution radio channel called "Jet Set Radio" (great music) It didnt sell too well in japan, but man was it fun... heh

[Taro Toporific]

Crews hang together here with LOTS of babes. Don't be shy...

ha! ill have to steal some of those babes away from them then. is everyone going to like surround me and watch me paint or some shit? haha.. sounds like junior high all over again.

It is junior high all over again.

and is it legal to ship spray paint to japan? it would be cheaper.. .

Call and ask UPS in the States. Spray paint is not specifically named on their banned list.

Alcoholic beverages*
Dangerous goods
Diagnostic specimens
Perishables
Personal effects**
Plants
Seeds
Tobacco
Service is limited and is subject to certain restrictions. Contact your UPS international account executive or call the UPS International Customer Service Center at 1-800-782-7892 for further details.

[Torigaa Fenikkusu]

lol

[kurohinge1]

No place to hide!

Via Fark...

. . . Satellites and super-sensitive sensors are now tuned to the sibilant hiss of spray cans in a space-age effort to eradicate one of the oldest and most persistent urban problems -- graffiti.
TaggerTrap, a graffiti eradication system being tested... uses global positioning system technology, cell phones and sensors that recognize the ultrasonic pitch of spray cans to alert police when vandals begin their work....

[SIZE="4"]Graffiti vandals leave a bad smell[/SIZE]

GRAFFITI painters may like leaving an elaborate signature on their creations, but now the chemical signature of the paint may prove their undoing.

A Sydney company has developed an electronic nose that can detect the vapour of spray paint and instantly alert security officers, potentially thwarting millions of dollars of vandalism.

. . . The device uses a fan to "inhale" fumes and then matches the gases against a chemical signature.

"As soon as the boys start attacking the train, they put up a nice cloud of paint solvent and other inky molecules into the air," Dr Bell said at the 2008 Security conference at Darling Harbour, which ended yesterday.

"Our device will capture those molecules and set off an alarm. We've proved we can do this from at least 45 metres away from a four-second spray of paint."

. . . Dr Bell said it commonly took a graffiti gang of three or four people at least 17 minutes to paint an entire rail carriage.

"That's pretty quick, especially when you see all the detail they put into in, but it's giving us 17 minutes of chemical cloud in the air," he said.

The electronic nose, the size of a small shoebox, checks the air continuously. Once it recognises the paint fumes, it sends a wireless message to a designated office, which can then dispatch security officers to respond to the attack.

Multiple devices could be deployed to protect a large site such as a rail depot. Dr Bell said each device could be hidden or camouflaged . . .

The device also captures information that can establish the brand and age of the paint, helping to secure a conviction . . . more

[Catoneinutica]

BTW: Bring plenty of red spray on your forays to correct the spelling around here...

[Taro Toporific]

BTW: Bring plenty of red spray on your forays to correct the spelling around here...

:rofl:

fack-you.ytmnd.com



http://jp.youtube.com/watch?v=WkHlNbmowRE

[pheyton]

I use to write. Did a hell of a lot of piecing with my old crews CIA/F4D. Most of us were artists in our own rights, we just happened to use graff as a way to express it. Some of us even went on to become professional artists, SAG being one.

That said, I have very little respect for graff now. There are still a lot of great artists out there who do graffiti, but there are too many wankers in Japan, like that fuckin idiot who bombed the Shinkansen. If I was still involved in the scene still I wouldn't hesitate to bust that fucker or any moron pulling shit like that. People like that guy give the real writers a bad name. Stick to the walls in Yokohama.

[Charles]

I use to write. Did a hell of a lot of piecing with my old crews CIA/F4D. Most of us were artists in our own rights, we just happened to use graff as a way to express it. Some of us even went on to become professional artists, SAG being one.

Bullshit. Graffiti is not art, it's vandalism. Maybe they've gone on to be professional vandals, but they're not artists.

Let me tell you a graffiti story. I used to work across the street from Melrose High in LA, the building I worked at was a graphics studio and we were constantly vandalized by graffiti. It was one of the most prominent locations on Melrose Ave and hotly desired as the most visible blank wall in the trendiest part of LA. We hated it because it was ugly shit that our clients disliked, it was a visual assault on people who were REAL artists. I used to spend almost every lunch hour with a paint roller and a big bucket of City-supplied "Chapparal Brown" paint, covering up the latest abomination, rarely would the walls stay unvandalized for even 24 hours. I particularly enjoyed one day when I found a vandal with his portfolio book being photographed for a 'zine cover, in front of the piece he'd just vomited onto our wall, at the very moment I was painting it over with puke-brown paint. Fuck you, vandal. Fuck you, graffiti 'zine.
But the most stupid incidents were the stupid high school kids, many of them gang wannabees. I'd often catch them in the act of vandalism when I went out to paint things out, and they'd argue with me, accusing me of suppressing their free speech. I told them this is private property, they have no right to free speech here, and they're suppressing my right to have blank walls. They'd retort that it was art. I said it wasn't. They all had the same arguments, I got tired of hearing them over and over. So I decided to fuck with them. Every time I caught some kid vandalizing that insisted he was an artist, I would offer them a deal. If you can name ONE artist (no graffitists allowed) and explain to me how their work influenced the piece you were putting on my wall, I'd leave it up forever, I'd even chase away people who tried to paint over it. Dozens of kids failed at this challenge, even infamous well-known adult (and I used that term merely to indicate age, not maturity) graffitists failed, none of them could even name ONE artist. Finally one day, some kid took a minute and named Leonardo daVinci. I asked him how daVinci's work affected this piece, he could not come up with a single thought. You lose, I painted over his unfinished piece right in front of him.
Eventually the stupid kids got the idea that this wasn't a good place to waste the spray paint they had gone to so much trouble to shoplift, so the paint vandalism slowed down, only to be replaced by a much worse form.
The front of our office was right on Melrose Ave, across from the school, and the major bus stop for all the schoolkids. There was a vacant storefront next door directly in front of the bus stop. As the painted vandalism slowed, a new graffiti trend was emerging: tagging windows with diamond-tipped glass cutters. Over a couple of months, the storefront's glass became quite misty and hard to see through, due to the thickly overlapping scribed tagging, kids would tag the windows while waiting for the bus.
So one day one of our favorite clients comes into the office. He's a famous designer, his award-winning work is published across the world. He's carrying his hard drive, we plug it in, I printed some really great Iris proofs for him, it's the culmination of months of hard work (both his and ours) and if the proofs work, he's going straight to FedEx to send the drive to the publisher. The proofs look great, he takes the tube of rolled-up proofs and his drive in one hand, his car keys in the other, and walks out of our office with a huge smile on his face. His car is parked right next to the bus stop. As he passes the stop, a bus arrives and the crowd of high school kids surges forward to embark, pushing him against the scribed window. The fragile window, scored by thousands of glass cutters, shatters and rains down jagged shards of half-inch plate glass on him. Mere seconds after he left our front door, suddenly he staggers back in, cut and bleeding from head to toe. I rush to staunch the bleeding with some nearby photo-wipes, while the receptionist calls 911. He could hardly speak (his throat was cut) but he's desperately trying to tell me he dropped his hard drive and his car keys, can someone go out and retrieve them? I sent someone out to look, not only has his hard drive been stolen, his car has been stolen too. The ambulance comes and he's taken away on a stretcher, with EMTs furiously trying to push plasma into his IV. He never returned to our offices, we spent some serious time trying to locate him but he disappeared. The last we heard of him, he got out of the hospital weeks later, and went to a private hospital for months of rehabilitation, with only a slight possibility that he'd ever be able to work again.

So FUCK YOU graffiti vandals. You are not artists, you are a blight upon humanity, you ruin peoples' property and their lives. If I ever meet one of you assholes face to face, I'm going to insist on my right of free speech, just like you, I demand the right to paint your face with enamel spray paint and put my tag on your throat with a diamond tipped glass cutter.

[pheyton]

wow, uh, ok. So you must have know HEX and Omega who ran the graff shop right across the street from you. I know you had to have know CBS. They owned Melrose. Actually, Hex did the lifelike black and white murals of Marilyn and others probably right across the street from your shop.

If we ever meet it'll be ok. I'll just buy ya a beer. You're wound a wee bit too tight.

[Samurai_Jerk]

Graffiti is not art, it's vandalism.

Are the two mutually exclusive?

Every time I caught some kid vandalizing that insisted he was an artist, I would offer them a deal. If you can name ONE artist (no graffitists allowed) and explain to me how their work influenced the piece you were putting on my wall, I'd leave it up forever, I'd even chase away people who tried to paint over it.

Would that also mean that folk art is not art?


BTW, you can't blame the window breaking for the poor guy losing his work. That's his fault and yours for not backing it up.