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Postby Mulboyne » Sat Jun 24, 2006 9:11 pm

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I met my English husband in my home city of Nagoya, where he worked for one of the large language schools that draw thousands of young western graduates to Japan every year...After moving to England, our first home together was a ground floor flat in a large Victorian house in the Hyde Park area of Leeds, where many students live...I've heard British people say that Japanese people live in rabbit hutch homes. I've lived in four different flats in England, and I would swap every one for a modern Japanese rabbit hutch. I particularly miss the concrete floors and walls, which give excellent sound insulation. I found it strange to be told privacy was important to the British. So many people I know live in flats where you can hear your neighbours footsteps, conversations, televisions, music, and even snoring. It was during that winter that we were regularly woken up in the middle of the night by parties that carried on until the morning...When I watched the film Lost in Translation, about two foreigners experiencing culture shock in Japan, I noticed the only Japanese people the main characters liked were the ones that had a noisy western-style party in their flat. In Japan, homes are a necessary retreat from the pressures of public life we entertain in restaurants or izakaya. I couldnt understand the way houses in Leeds 6 were used like nightclubs.
...After a time we moved to a new flat in a small market town on the edge of the Yorkshire Dales. There were surprises here too. For young Japanese, the idea of going for a walk is unusual, though older people may take some exercise around the streets of their neighbourhoods. Generally though, Japans geography is divided between very flat, urban areas, and the wilderness of the mountains; there are no small hills on which to ramble, and we dont walk between the rice paddies, as there are snakes. On my first walk in Yorkshire, I wanted to know where we were going and why.
...I am not naturally someone who prefers the countryside though. I love Japans big, modern and exciting cities with their high-tech buildings and cheap, clean, easy to use transportation systems. I dont really understand why British cities are so crowded, old-fashioned and inconvenient to get around. Talking to English people about the differences between cities in Japan and Britain, I have heard the words shabby, genteel and NIMBY. For better or worse, these concepts are entirely alien to Japan. Ultimately, I cant help thinking that Britain just isnt equipped with the infrastructure to deal with modern life. I also find it astonishing that some British people who havent travelled much seem to think that the rest of the world is behind them in terms of technology...more...


Sounds like she had a great time.
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Postby Charles » Sat Jun 24, 2006 10:54 pm

Ultimately, I cant help thinking that Britain just isnt equipped with the infrastructure to deal with modern life.

Remember that the flush toilet and sanitary sewer systems were invented in Britain. The invention of the sanitary sewer is credited as the single infrastructure innovation that allowed the rise of modern cities.

I also find it astonishing that some British people who havent travelled much seem to think that the rest of the world is behind them in terms of technology

I wonder what would give them that impression?

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Postby Oradea » Mon Jun 26, 2006 10:32 pm

Poor Tomomi.

What a lot of shit.
If someone from London moved to Japan to live in the middle of Aichi ken, lets say Kani for good measure, they would thing the 20th century, never mind the 21st was still a spot on the horizon.

Its all a matter of perspective, and if your perspective of Britain is the yorkshire dales, all is not well.

As for the housing, I'd love to see a japanese house with concrete walls and floors, they just dont exist. The whole thing about neighbour noise levels too, thats a scream, in japan you know when your neighbour has the skits, the walls are made of recycled toilet paper. Insulation is not something that has hit the japanese housng market yet.

Tomomi's observations are obviously meant as an attempt to raise a smile.

I'm off to shit in the whole in the floor, that serves as the japanese style toilet. When i flush, the debris will float outside in the open sewers running parallel to the road, and the aforementioned rice fields, how hygienic. Perhaps the brits should share that great invention with the japanese, huh charles?
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Postby maninjapan » Mon Jun 26, 2006 10:39 pm

my god what a whinging woman!

this sounds like a set up though

I love Japans big, modern and exciting cities with their high-tech buildings and cheap, clean, easy to use transportation systems.

one word love - suicides
I dont really understand why British cities are so crowded, old-fashioned and inconvenient to get around.

again its called history and character and buildings being able to last longer than 20 years without fear of earthquakes - she does know that Tokyo is more densely populated than London or leeds right?
will the last one out please turn the light off.....
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Postby Captain Japan » Mon Jun 26, 2006 11:16 pm

There is just something really weird about the way the article is written.
We married in the Nagoya town hall on an August day in 2001, when the temperatures reached 37 degrees Celsius.

What the heck?
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Postby maninjapan » Mon Jun 26, 2006 11:21 pm

told you its a stitch up!
will the last one out please turn the light off.....
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Postby Charles » Tue Jun 27, 2006 12:17 am

Captain Japan wrote:What the heck?

What? Is it surprising that the temp was 37C? I remember being in Tokyo in August when it hit 39C, oh man was it miserable.
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Postby Mulboyne » Tue Jun 27, 2006 8:54 am

Charles wrote:What? Is it surprising that the temp was 37C?

No, but it is an odd thing to mention in a short article. It's as if she is saying that the oppressive heat of the day foreshadowed the trials she would have to endure while living in England.
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Postby maraboutslim » Tue Jun 27, 2006 2:56 pm

Oradea wrote:As for the housing, I'd love to see a japanese house with concrete walls and floors, they just dont exist.



Huh? What Japan are you living in?
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Postby canman » Tue Jun 27, 2006 6:31 pm

A real house, and not a so called mansion. I don't think a lot of the houses in Tokyo or anywhere for that matter are concrete for two reasons. I've been told the cost of a concrete house is almost double a similar wooden structure, and some people believe that wooden structures are better in earthquakes. More give and swaying without the cracking.
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Postby Tsuru » Tue Jun 27, 2006 10:27 pm

canman wrote:A real house, and not a so called mansion. I don't think a lot of the houses in Tokyo or anywhere for that matter are concrete for two reasons. I've been told the cost of a concrete house is almost double a similar wooden structure, and some people believe that wooden structures are better in earthquakes. More give and swaying without the cracking.
That would be true if they weren't all fitted with heavy tile roofs to protect against another of mother nature's fits. Conventional wooden Japanese houses without the diagonal in-wall supports are akin to waffle irons in an earthquake. Wood performs very poorly when exposed to compression and shear forces, contrary to bamboo where the tolerances approach those of concrete. Naturally reinforced concrete and steel structures still perform best. ;)
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Postby Oradea » Tue Jun 27, 2006 10:52 pm

Well, in nagoya, or in my experience, i see very few concrete walls and floors.
Anyway, its quite easy for the temp to get to 37C in nagoya, no biggie there.

The poor lass seems to be blaming her husband for the fact that britain aint japan.

I dont envy him :)
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Postby Greji » Wed Jun 28, 2006 10:21 am

[quote="Tsuru"]That would be true if they weren't all fitted with heavy tile roofs to protect against another of mother nature's fits. Conventional wooden Japanese houses without the diagonal in-wall supports are akin to waffle irons in an earthquake. Wood performs very poorly when exposed to compression and shear forces, contrary to bamboo where the tolerances approach those of concrete. Naturally reinforced concrete and steel structures still perform best. ]

One would think that, but strangely, one of our newly remodeled ferro-concrete facilities in the Nigawa area of Osaka took a lot of damage during the Kobe earthquake and we had a major three-parking garage for customers that became a very short one story. Most of the structures surrounding it were devastated. Yet the traditional wooden Japanese buildings in the area were still standing and seemed to have weathered the quake the best.

I suppose we shouldn't have used the Aneha design!
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Postby maraboutslim » Wed Jun 28, 2006 10:40 am

I don't want to get into a pissing match, but there are lots of concrete single-family houses in the fashionable areas of Tokyo.
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Postby Tsuru » Wed Jun 28, 2006 6:19 pm

gboothe wrote:One would think that, but strangely, one of our newly remodeled ferro-concrete facilities in the Nigawa area of Osaka took a lot of damage during the Kobe earthquake and we had a major three-parking garage for customers that became a very short one story. Most of the structures surrounding it were devastated. Yet the traditional wooden Japanese buildings in the area were still standing and seemed to have weathered the quake the best.

I suppose we shouldn't have used the Aneha design!
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Nonwithstanding, a structure sirviving an earthquake is 10% design and 90% luck ;) Structures don't see much static loading during an earthquake, and surviving it can just be up to the fact that the dynamic loads were just the wrong frequency, amplitude or direction, not matching any of the building's resonance frequencies. That is why a lot of three-story buildings collapsed while higher structures on the same block survived. :cool:
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Postby Jack » Thu Jun 29, 2006 2:10 am

I thought the article was pretty good. What's your beef about this lady? Is it that she dares say positive things about Japan? You fucking idiots living there and shitting on Japan (One of the best countries in the world) all your waking hours couldn't take some positive comments? I would swap any flat in London for the lowest of the lowest flats in Japan having lived extensively in both. Brittons live in appaling conditions and that includes London my friends. So take it fucked loser gaijins.
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Postby jingai » Thu Jun 29, 2006 7:04 am

Some people just aren't meant to leave Japan, and I guess she learned that the hard way. Having mental flexibility is a prerequesite, and people like this or the American girl I went to school with in Japan who insisted on eating at McDonald's EVERY SINGLE DAY in Japan aren't up to the challenge.
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Postby Greji » Thu Jun 29, 2006 9:18 am

Jack wrote:You fucking idiots living there and shitting on Japan (One of the best countries in the world) all your waking hours couldn't take some positive comments?


Hemorrhoids acting up on you Jack?
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Postby Jack » Fri Jun 30, 2006 11:02 pm

gboothe wrote:Hemorrhoids acting up on you Jack?
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No, I think it was the constipation that morning.
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